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jock dock tower
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We'll have a vaccine by early next year. Everything I hear about the Oxford one suggests it'll do the job once they've finished the Phase 3 trials (and my source for this is my brother who is actually working on it and listed as one of the authors here - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31604-4/fulltext)


Isn't that the one they've suspended because one of the volunteers took ill on the third phase of the trial?



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they most likely think we are a small fishing village in Yorkshire.


That's incorrect, we are not in Yorkshire



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Isn't that the one they've suspended because one of the volunteers took ill on the third phase of the trial?



It is, but dont listen to the doom mongers of the media..Its a normal thing for vaccine testing and its the 2nd time this particular vaccine has been PAUSED to do a check.
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Isn't that the one they've suspended because one of the volunteers took ill on the third phase of the trial?



If you've got a 50,000 person strong vaccine trial running over several months it's not that unlikely one of your volunteers will end up in hospital for some unexplained reason during it. For safety and public confidence it makes complete sense to investigate the circumstances fully before resuming the trial, but it's not exactly a sign the vaccine is unsafe when you've got 49.99k others who've so far taken it without issue.


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If you've got a 50,000 person strong vaccine trial running over several months it's not that unlikely one of your volunteers will end up in hospital for some unexplained reason during it. For safety and public confidence it makes complete sense to investigate the circumstances fully before resuming the trial, but it's not exactly a sign the vaccine is unsafe when you've got 49.99k others who've so far taken it without issue.


Problem is public perception though. The general public takes zero interest in clinical trials of new medicines or vaccines so are unaware of the "normal" pitfalls. There's bound to be a significant section of the population who won't take it - or any other vaccine - which has been "rushed out".


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Go do your own research . It takes a bit of your time but it's worth it


Well please point me in the right direction as it was never stated that crowds wouldn't return this forthcoming season.
Obviously if you've found those government comments please make them available.
It would have been useful for people deciding whether to renew.

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Article around German football & return of supporters after October:

https://www.espn.co.uk/footbal.....ealistic-is-the-plan



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I can't see crowds returning for a long time. Cases in Grimsby rising rapidly and these are only the ones who have been able to get a test - must be far more because if you have symptoms you still can't get tested so you are not counted in the figures. They say you can order test kits on line but none available.  How many really have the virus - nobody will ever know. I know of loads of people self isolating but not included in any figures. I am getting worried again.
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I completely agree with that part. But the virus does spread exponentially, if it didn't then there would never have been a problem. It has 100% been worse than flu season, deaths this year are double a bad flu season and that's with locking down the country for 5 months. A vaccine changes everything, as it has with the flu, but we don't have one.


We've been waiting 10 years for a vaccine for hepatitis C. Why does everybody think we'll have a COVID virus soon?

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We've been waiting 10 years for a vaccine for hepatitis C. Why does everybody think we'll have a COVID virus soon?



Where did I say I expect a vaccine? Given the short time antibodies seem to be present, it does seem like a vaccine might be difficult, since you might have to have multiple doses every year.

It is a different situation though, hep C hasn't devastated the world in the same way as Covid. There has never been such an effort to produce a vaccine, and progress is likely to be better because it is needed more.
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