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TownSNAFU5
June 19, 2020, 10:10pm
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Deducted 2 points and fined £20K.  Stevenage relegated then.

(BBC website 20 mins ago).
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Just seen this on BBC website. Hopefully, the National League is alive and well next season and can welcome Stevenage back where they belong. If so, hope we never play them again.
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The whole point of a salary cap is to prevent clubs overspending. If the FA grew a pair, and kicked out teams that overspend and then can't pay their staff there wouldn't need to be a salary cap.

One problem with the cap is where teams are relegated, like Sunderland for example. They would have to be allowed to breach the cap because their players would be on contracts, so they would have a massive advantage over the rest.It also works the other way, with teams that are promoted. Their players would be on a lot less than the rest in the Championship which would cause them massive problems keeping their players.

As I say, to solve the problem of teams like Macclesfield, make the punishment fit the crime. If they know in advance that they face relegation / expulsion they would think twice about overspending.
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The whole point of a salary cap is to prevent clubs overspending. If the FA grew a pair, and kicked out teams that overspend and then can't pay their staff there wouldn't need to be a salary cap.

One problem with the cap is where teams are relegated, like Sunderland for example. They would have to be allowed to breach the cap because their players would be on contracts, so they would have a massive advantage over the rest.It also works the other way, with teams that are promoted. Their players would be on a lot less than the rest in the Championship which would cause them massive problems keeping their players.

As I say, to solve the problem of teams like Macclesfield, make the punishment fit the crime. If they know in advance that they face relegation / expulsion they would think twice about overspending.


The problem is that there is no salary cap or FFP in place. As Andy Holt said, you can tick a box saying you will fund it as the owner/sugar daddy. If that person suddenly decides to pull the plug, or even had no intention to do it in the first place, you have to punish a club for one person's malpractice. That person usually then leaves and everybody else picks up the mess that was left behind.

Maybe owners should have to pay a bond to the EFL if they're going to tick that box. Can't get the money back unless the clubs books are balanced at the time they want it back.
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The salary cap has so many loopholes and exclusions in its current form that it’s practically worthless.

Turnover can include donations and equity purchase from owners. i.e. rich owners can generate unlimited turnover.

Players developed through the clubs academy are excluded until the player is 21 at the start of the season. This means that for the first 3 years as a pro a player won’t count towards FFP. So Mattie Pollock and co don’t count towards our FFP and Harry Clifton was only counted for the first time in 2019/20.

Relegated clubs do not have to count any player contract signed before September 1st during the season they were relegated. So if Hull are relegated this season their FFP calculation next season in League 1 would exclude all contracts that started before 1st September 2019. Sunderland have benefitted from this and the fact they are still receiving EPL parachute payments.

A £1.25m salary cap is an absolute unworkable joke of a suggestion. It would widen the disparity between each step of the football league.

A much better system is to simply toughen up the sanctions for financial matters. Administration = demotion. Any football debt at end of season (wages, money owed to other clubs etc.) = demotion. If you are relegated anyway you drop 2 levels.

For some bizarre reason English football just allows financial doping. That needs to change.

I have no problem with any owner(s) bankrolling clubs. Salford and FGR don’t bother me. But Bury and Macclesfield and countless other clubs spending money they don’t have has to be stopped.
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I'm no Stevenage fan but it doesn't sit right with me that Macc have spent a second season repeatedly failing to pay players and appear pretty much insolvent yet will be there again next season.
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I'm no Stevenage fan but it doesn't sit right with me that Macc have spent a second season repeatedly failing to pay players and appear pretty much insolvent yet will be there again next season.


*Third season. They weren’t paying their players on time during the season they were promoted either.
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Not right is it?
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One problem with the cap is where teams are relegated, like Sunderland for example. They would have to be allowed to breach the cap because their players would be on contracts, so they would have a massive advantage over the rest.It also works the other way, with teams that are promoted. Their players would be on a lot less than the rest in the Championship which would cause them massive problems keeping their players.


Yeah, just look at how Sunderland have run away with the league in the last 2 seasons and have used their financial muscle to fuel unbelievable success. B*stards.


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Even in the premiership FFP is a joke, take Man U, they were “bought” by the Glaziers, basically on a mortgage using the clubs yearly profit  to pay the interest payments each year, but now their dept is even higher then when first bought, so why aren’t they classed as overspending. Much to complicated for my mind to work out.
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