Anti-racism protests

Quoted from Rick12

But your missing my point entirely. Iam referring to the rioting in the USA which that ex black  policeman in the USA was alluding to which by all accounts was quite widespread which filtered over here to a lesser extent.He states quite passionately that with hard work black people can be a success .I think thats the same here in the UK as well.Granted there maybe more obstacles with some employers(I feel a minority) showing racial bias and other areas  but hard work and dedication will allow you to achieve in the job market if your tenacious and want it bad enough.Its the same for other ethnic groups as well.Hence when most  people see effort/goodness of character/effort I feel that transcends a lot of innate problems.

I am a white British male, work in financial services in NW England and see racism, whether intentional or not, in my company and profession every single day. If I was from a BAME background, in my profession, I would have had to work a lot harder to be in my current position (and be very, very thick-skinned).

I also see sexism every day. This is perpetrated by colleagues and clients of all backgrounds. From the white lecherous 65 year old clients where you wouldn’t send a woman to see them, through to Jewish and Muslim clients who refuse to even share a room with female colleagues. Different races and religions in the UK have a long way to go in this regard and should consider their attitudes to women, LGBT+ and gender issues whilst discussing the current situation.

We are not America. Racism is not at that level or even comparable to some European neighbours such as Italy and Spain. Most of our overt racism has gone but there is still an undercurrent, which is slowly being diluted but at glacial speeds. Many threads on this forum contain views that were borderline tolerable 30 years ago when fans were still boomeranging bananas at Barnes and Bright but are ridiculously out of touch in the modern world.

I don’t see what the right wing members of UK society want. You can never go back to the 1930s. There are over 10m non-white people in the UK. How do you want to remove them? Genocide? Deportation? Hoping they leave because of the way they are treated?The only way forward as a country is to integrate and work together to try to create a balanced society. The sooner people realise that, the better.

Quoted from Knut Anders Fosters Voles

I am a white British male, work in financial services in NW England and see racism, whether intentional or not, in my company and profession every single day. If I was from a BAME background, in my profession, I would have had to work a lot harder to be in my current position (and be very, very thick-skinned).


I don’t see what the right wing members of UK society want. You can never go back to the 1930s. There are over 10m non-white people in the UK. How do you want to remove them? Genocide? Deportation? Hoping they leave because of the way they are treated?The only way forward as a country is to integrate and work together to try to create a balanced society. The sooner people realise that, the better.

I agree with a lot of the above. Theres still a way to go with addressing deep innate racial prejudices but I still feel goodness of character will win over most in the long run if there sustained to it long enough.

I think the problem stems in our human past.History has been one of bully tactics and greed where one county invades another country  for the sake of aggrandisement etc.This is not limited to one country as you know but was caused by many around the world.Its only when we start mending the unjustness of that which  still affects us to this day that humanity can truly progress.

So ripping down statues is the answer? Is it tosh. These statues for good or bad are a part of our history.
They should be used to educate people on who they are and what they did rather than erase the history all together. It still happens and there is no changing that.
If we go down this riot then half the old universities and historic building should be pulled down as a lot of slave money funded them.
The coliseum in Rome should be flattened as slaves where forced to die there for entertainment.
The left wing with their aggressive behaviour is looking more like nazis than the right.
I swear to god these protests and riots have put attitudes back 40 years and is now generating new level of racism not seen for years. Racism from all colours.

Quoted from LH

So I see that the papers have branded the people watching over the statues as violent racist football thugs yet there hasn’t been any trouble or arrests from them yet the protesters who have beaten people and looted shops and injured police people and animals are seen as peaceful protesters? Load of excrement




If I was black I’d probably consider the fact that I’m more likely to die if I contract Covid than other races and definitely not go out in a crowd during the pandemic!

I’d also like to say how sad it is that I’ve seen many people associated with our club wanting to go out on Saturday in Cleethorpes to ‘protect the war memorials’/counter protest our own BLM protest.  (Before the little angry bald men jump on this comment - the war memorials should be left well alone but the ‘football lads’ are going to these protests under the guise of defending them)

That's a shame,Nigel Farage has been booted from LBC for comments below:

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-06-11/nigel-farage-parts-company-with-broadcaster-lbc/

Probably the publication of a letter from his past didn't help his cause.

I find it incredible that no one has mentioned the fact that blacks were raiding our shores and dragging whites off to slavery first.
Doesn't suit their agenda though I suppose.

Quoted from GYinScuntland

I find it incredible that no one has mentioned the fact that blacks were raiding our shores and dragging whites off to slavery first.

Not just with the black slave trade either.Incredible when I read that the Arab slave trade was still going strong up to the late 19th century and in some parts of the world into the 20th century and even into the 21st century.

Quoted from Rick12

Not just with the black slave trade either.Incredible when I read that the Arab slave trade was still going strong up to the late 19th century and in some parts of the world into the 20th century and even into the 21st century.

Too many choose to forget that these shores were raided by pirates from North Africa with women and children shipped off to the slave markets on the Barbary coast, long before slavery was fashionable here.
Another overlooked and unpalatable fact being that a huge percentage of slaves shipped to places like Liverpool and Bristol were rounded up and sold on by their own countrymen.
Abhorrent yes, but racist?

Quoted from GYinScuntland

Too many choose to forget that these shores were raided by pirates from North Africa with women and children shipped off to the slave markets on the Barbary coast, long before slavery was fashionable here.
Another overlooked and unpalatable fact being that a huge percentage of slaves shipped to places like Liverpool and Bristol were rounded up and sold on by their own countrymen.
Abhorrent yes, but racist?

What has this to do with life and equality in the 21st Century? Either you believe in equality for all or you do not. I think most would be shocked we still have statues in this country celebrating slavers, I certainly was.

Quoted from codcheeky

What has this to do with life and equality in the 21st Century? Either you believe in equality for all or you do not. I think most would be shocked we still have statues in this country celebrating slavers, I certainly was.

I was as well to be fair. Its shocking what humans done to each other and are still doing to this day in other areas.

It's a battle between good and evil. In the long run good always wins which is why Iam hopeful things can change overall for the best.