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June 1, 2020, 9:26am

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No.  It was stated at the fans forum Nov 2017, by the top table (Mr Marley i think)  that Omar had already been scouted and identified & budgeted for when the season budget was set and the O.P monies therefore werent needed for that and went elsewhere in the running costs.



Does it really matter whether the money bought Omar, paid for Tomlinson to come in on loan or went towards paying the gas bill? It was a great scheme run by the fans, got national attention and ultimately we got promoted.

The problem came that because it was called "Operation Promotion" and fans had put their hands in their pocket to boost the budget, it created an expectancy that we would easily get promoted. After a promising start, we seemed to progressively worse over the season and a lot of hatred and negativity towards the club was fueled. I don't know what exact statements were made that are referred to, I've only seen what people write on here, but I'm sure they're not only comments made with regret, but also taken, at least partially, out of context
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Does it really matter whether the money bought Omar, paid for Tomlinson to come in on loan or went towards paying the gas bill? It was a great scheme run by the fans, got national attention and ultimately we got promoted.

The problem came that because it was called "Operation Promotion" and fans had put their hands in their pocket to boost the budget, it created an expectancy that we would easily get promoted. After a promising start, we seemed to progressively worse over the season and a lot of hatred and negativity
towards the club was fueled. I don't know what exact statements were made that are referred to, I've only seen what people write on here, but I'm sure they're not only comments made with regret, but also taken, at least partially, out of context





A Few questions for Mr Marley(shut up)

Did you not say Operation Promotion DID NOT PAY for Omar Bogle ?,who did then.

Where have the shares come from?

Are you as honourable as honest John ?



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Although personally I am happy to make a donation, I totally respect the opinions of those fans that take the opposite view.  The bigger question is how sustainable is football at our level ?  I can honestly see 10+ league clubs that will go under if crowds are not let in before January 2021 a date that has been mentioned for the return of crowds by some political and scientific pundits.  Also will GTFC get their act together and make the ground more hygenic with better toilets and hand washing facilities.  I sincerely hope the money raised does not all go to paying wages etc, there must be a lot of things on the list of equal importance.

UTM
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I sincerely hope the money raised does not all go to paying wages etc, there must be a lot of things on the list of equal importance.

UTM


Yes, a new Jacuzzi and steam room at Castle Fenty

And drawing up plans for another new ground that'll never happen. They don't come cheap!
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I don't think fans in general realise how bad as place football clubs are in , with no cash flow for the last few months and the prospect of non in the next few months.
It's a recipe for disaster for all clubs.
Then i think this is a good idea, any money that goes into a club right now will help , it will go into the general pot but that's a good thing.
This is something a lot of clubs will have to do to keep afloat.
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The Dutch Eredivisie clubs are not as tight as our Premier League giants

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/.....cken-by-coronavirus/


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Yes, a new Jacuzzi and steam room at Castle Fenty

And drawing up plans for another new ground that'll never happen. They don't come cheap!


I wonder how much has been wasted on the Great Coates and Peaks Parkway sites.
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[quote=140128]

Does it really matter whether the money bought Omar,
paid for Tomlinson to come in on loan or went towards paying the gas bill? It was a great scheme run by the fans, got national attention and ultimately we got promoted.

The problem came that because it was called "Operation Promotion" and fans had put their hands in their pocket to boost the budget, it created an expectancy that we would easily get promoted. After a promising start, we seemed to progressively worse over the season and a lot of hatred and negativity towards the club was fueled. I don't know what exact statements were made that are referred to, I've only seen what people write on here, but I'm sure they're not only comments made with regret, but also taken, at least partially, out of context[/quote]




The comments weren't taken out of context in the slightest. At the Fan's Forum a fan said the OP money had bought Bogle. Stephen Marley said that the money didn't buy Bogle as the club had bought him before they'd received the OP funds. On SM's part he may have been factually correct but his declaration was very mean spirited towards the huge effort and commitment by the fans to raise the money and a really poor piece of PR. The fans didn't buy Bogle because of the timing of funds coming in was a technicality and nothing more. Our fans have a history of getting together to provide funds for the club like Bonetti, Waters etc and it would have been amazing if the fans were told they'd bought Omar and built a stronger bond at the club, but sadly it didn't happen and it will be a reason why there isn't quite the groundswell of support for the current crowdfunding efforts. SM needlessly left bad sentiments and if he was more adept at PR, he'd have said of course OP bought Omar. A little white lie technically, but a win win all round..
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[quote=140128]

Does it really matter whether the money bought Omar,
paid for Tomlinson to come in on loan or went towards paying the gas bill? It was a great scheme run by the fans, got national attention and ultimately we got promoted.

The problem came that because it was called "Operation Promotion" and fans had put their hands in their pocket to boost the budget, it created an expectancy that we would easily get promoted. After a promising start, we seemed to progressively worse over the season and a lot of hatred and negativity towards the club was fueled. I don't know what exact statements were made that are referred to, I've only seen what people write on here, but I'm sure they're not only comments made with regret, but also taken, at least partially, out of context[/quote]

The comments weren't taken out of context in the slightest. At the Fan's Forum a fan said the OP money had bought Boigle. Stephen Marley said that the money didn't buy Bogle as the club had bought him before they'd received the OP funds. On SM's part he may have been factually correct but his declaration was very mean spirited towards the huge effort and commitment by the fans to raise the money and a really poor piece of PR. The fans didn't buy Bogle because of the timing of funds coming in was a technicality and nothing more. Our fans have a history of getting together to provide funds for the club like Bonetti, Waters etc and it would have been amazing if the fans were told they'd bought Omar and built a stronger bond at the club, but sadly it didn't happen and it will be a reason why there isn't quite the groundswell of support for the current crowdfunding efforts. SM needlessly left bad sentiments and if he was more adept at PR, he'd have said of course OP bought Omar. A little white lie technically, but a win win all round..


I agree that it wasn't good PR to say that even if it's technically true. But that's not one of the statements I'm talking about. People are saying that directors said OP was the worst thing that ever happened to the club and weren't on board with it, but the people actually involved with it said differently.
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Does it really matter whether the money bought Omar, paid for Tomlinson to come in on loan or went towards paying the gas bill? It was a great scheme run by the fans, got national attention and ultimately we got promoted.

The problem came that because it was called "Operation Promotion" and fans had put their hands in their pocket to boost the budget, it created an expectancy that we would easily get promoted. After a promising start, we seemed to progressively worse over the season and a lot of hatred and negativity towards the club was fueled. I don't know what exact statements were made that are referred to, I've only seen what people write on here, but I'm sure they're not only comments made with regret, but also taken, at least partially, out of context


I was answering a specific question, does it matter ultimately want the money went on ?  No it doesnt, you are correct.
The money was raised to aid the club funds and it did that so it could easily have helped bring in Nolan who also helped us get over the line......i really dont care what it went on specifically, it was the fans responce after what felt like injustice vs Bristol, the fans could have turned then, lost interest , been dejected but by and large the fans response to the Bristol defeat was magnificent.

The point is the top table then rubbished that effort, belittled it as if it was insignificant and therefore there are those that want absolutely nothing to do with this latest whip round.



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