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ginnywings
May 22, 2020, 9:33am

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An article this morning on the financial hardships clubs and players are going to face. This will give the richer clubs in the Prem leverage to get their own way. It may be a case of taking on board these proposals or going to the wall. The proverbial rock and a hard place.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52680375
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Quoted from The_Laughing_Mariner
Don't agree with across the board unilateral cap.  should be %ge of registered income.  Max squad of 20, yup I can go with that, of which 8 home grown, mmm, agree with giving home grown players a chance, but I think that's a bit high.
B teams in lge 2,  NO.  Let them have there own league, or let U23s go out on loan.
If a 20-23 yo is not knocking on the first team door then he's at the wrong club.


Summed up perfectly.
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If a club sells a couple of players for £2million what happens to this money if they can't spend it and don't have any debt
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Quoted from golfer
If a club sells a couple of players for £2million what happens to this money if they can't spend it and don't have any debt


Good example golfer . Well if I was the chairman I’d spend it on a new training facility to grow more young talent and give the first team better facilities.


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If a club sells a couple of players for £2million what happens to this money if they can't spend it and don't have any debt


Do what Exeter did and bank it for a rainy day. They are going to get through this crisis because of their financial model. They are fan owned too.
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Quoted from Bigdog
I think so mate..

You've just described the Socialist Worker Party's blueprint for football, every club exactly the same, expecting players to fall into line and not get picked up by other clubs who can offer more than their local salary-capped club and also ignoring other outside market forces beyond League One and League Two. And if the majority had to be homegrown then surely your plan would be flawed as clubs in higher population areas would have an unfair advantage..

As I've said before.. we've already got strict financial rules, FFP, but the EFL don't apply them as strictly as they should. Weed out the wrongdoers, don't punish everyone else. So what are they proposing? Yet more rules which they won't punish the wrongdoers for and the cycle continues ad nauseum until no-one's bothered about their local team or even football anymore..

Wouldn't dare admit sympathy for their ideas on here!

I don't see how every club would be the same?  Isn't that what we have now?  Pretty much everyone signs the same players who journey round several clubs until they retire.  With a spending restriction I would argue that clubs would have more of a distinct identity.  

Your point about metropolitan clubs is a fair criticism, and I don't think clubs should be compelled to sign players from their own catchment area, more that the system should encourage them to promote youth from anywhere, particularly talent from non-league.  This model would serve the lower-leagues well if that sort of player could turn a healthy profit, money which can be reinvested into infrastructure which, we would surely agree, is in dire need of improvement at our level.
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May 22, 2020, 1:37pm

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I think if a player is sold for 2 mill this will not be available for the budget until the following season.  I think there was a rule change about this, but i could be wide of the mark.


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Wouldn't this go down as profit- therefore 19% or whatever would have to be paid in tax ?
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Quoted from golfer
Wouldn't this go down as profit- therefore 19% or whatever would have to be paid in tax ?


Not being an expert, but I think this is why clubs that do get a financial windfall in the January window also go out and spend so that their tax bill is not as high.
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Rangers proposing B teams in Scotland, already with backing from Celtic. They are using the "helping vulnerable teams" reasoning to put this idea forward, offering financial incentives.

I fear something similar will appear in England soon enough.
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