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promotion plaice
May 7, 2020, 12:31pm

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Macclesfield have just been hit with a SEVEN-point deduction for failing to play a game in December and not paying players in February leaving them just three points above bottom placed Stevenage who have a game in hand.

JUST SAYING


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May 7, 2020, 12:44pm

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Macclesfield have just been hit with a SEVEN-point deduction for failing to play a game in December and not paying players in February leaving them just three points above bottom placed Stevenage who have a game in hand.

JUST SAYING


If we do not finish the season it means nothing at all.

Unless the League have the bottom two clubs play a one off game to see who goes down.


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A real shame as I like Macclesfield as a club. I really hope they can sort themselves out or ultimately I can see them fading away. The coronavirus may help them regarding not getting relegated if the season is cancelled but they'll still be financially broken due to no income streams. Unfortunately I have a feeling things will not go well for them either way.
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I mean they’d probably still stay up, even if the season was going on...although I’d have imagined this fine/deduction would’ve happened a few weeks ago.

Stevenage are awful but when the season is voided this won’t mean anything...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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May 7, 2020, 4:37pm

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So if season voided.....

.....Macclesfield will have an unblemished record.
.....Stevenage will not have had their worst season in the league.
.....League 1 will start with only 23 teams again!
.....Barrow who have had possibly there best season in non league will have to try and do it again to get promotion. (Even if EFL is completed I do not see how they can be promoted as NL has been voided)

I know it might have to happen, but the EFL must explore every other option before doing it. Personally I think the season should finish how ever long it takes.


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May 7, 2020, 11:32pm
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And Stevenage get away with the charge of postponing a game because of three players on international duty when they only had two that were.












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A guaranteed court case if they get relegated because of the deduction.


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So if season voided.....

.....Macclesfield will have an unblemished record.
.....Stevenage will not have had their worst season in the league.
.....League 1 will start with only 23 teams again!
.....Barrow who have had possibly there best season in non league will have to try and do it again to get promotion. (Even if EFL is completed I do not see how they can be promoted as NL has been voided)

I know it might have to happen, but the EFL must explore every other option before doing it. Personally I think the season should finish how ever long it takes.


League 1 started the season with 24 teams didn't it ? Didn't Bury get chucked out after a few weeks ?
If the season gets wiped then would they have a case for reinstatement?



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May 8, 2020, 9:53am

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Surely an expelling is still an expelling, even it the season is voided?


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Quoted from GrimRob
A guaranteed court case if they get relegated because of the deduction.


Not sure if they could afford the legal costs
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FFS No relegation in league 2 and promote Barrow to make up the 92


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Barrow are only 4 points clear. If they promoted them to replace Bury there would be legal action that's for sure.
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Quoted from Posh Harry


Not sure if they could afford the legal costs


As they dont seem to bother paying any bills i am sure it wouldnt be an issue


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FFS No relegation in league 2 and promote Barrow to make up the 92


Leaving 23 in division 1 and 25 in division 2 🤪


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I see legal action has already started in France with one of the relegated teams upset.


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Legal action was always likely when you start awarding titles and relegation on guess work.

Just void it, essentially restart the season. Yes, Stevenage have been the worst side and deserves to go but equally Crewe and Swindon have been excellent but mathematically and knowing football, it still isn’t a given.

I appreciate cash is the issue at the higher levels but it’s just becoming farcical. Just void the season...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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May 13, 2020, 9:25am

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So there'd be no prospect of legal action if the season was voided?


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That’s not what I I was getting at, but using awarding promotion/relegation on guesswork is a bigger issue...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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When I was working I used to enjoy the buzz of having to make decisions. Analyse data, go through pro's and con's, make a call, communicate to all concerned, sit back and hope!!! But I wouldn't touch this bad boy with a barge pole because there is no right answer and whatever they do there'll be trouble
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Sit and wait, conclude the season even if its behind closed doors. Any other way just leaves the door open for the laywers to start claiming and causing more & more disruption over time.
Must be settled on results otherwise it will be rounds and rounds of litigation putting any eventual restart under threat.


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We need to complete the season behind closed doors for two reasons.

1 - we do not want another wave of Corvid 19

2 - we need to asses our currant squad so we can decide who will be retained for next season.


If the football is bad you can always watch the gulls.
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Quoted from Grantham_Mariner
We need to complete the season behind closed doors for two reasons.

1 - we do not want another wave of Corvid 19

2 - we need to asses our currant squad so we can decide who will be retained for next season.


I would hope that IH has already decided who to retain.
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If the football is bad you can always watch the gulls.
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Have the league decided one final positions for our league yet?
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Is the reason they haven’t decided perhaps to do with possible pending points deductions on top of what Macc already have had?

Or can they not agree a formula to decide?

The Macclesfield saga just continues...if Covid doesn’t finish them off then I’d imagine nothing will...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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June 2, 2020, 10:19am
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Really uncomfortable with clubs being relegated or promoted without the season completing.  However I also can’t see any way that it can complete with this awful situation we face.  So just a few thoughts:-

1. Close the season off as the table stands at the moment.
2. Make a points adjustment based on average points per game.
3. No promotions or relegations.
3. Start a new season with the current bottom club on zero points and all clubs above start on the difference between the bottom club and their adjusted total.  A kind of handicap.

I think this addresses the concern that wiping out the current seasons’ performance would be unfair, while avoiding a scenario where clubs are promoted or relegated on a statistical basis.
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Quoted from Grantham_Mariner
We need to complete the season behind closed doors for two reasons.



2 - we need to assess our currant squad so we can decide who will be retained for next season.


Thats a very good raisin


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Something about a takeover by the Sultana of Brunei.


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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Something else about sour grapes.




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Not someone else having a wine!
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I think that the Sultana of Brunei is raisin the bar for our expectations.
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