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wont be long before the knives are ot if he is......
It will be a big gammonble.
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Shutes was repeatedly asked for updates, then given a deadline, not once did he contact the club to tell them what he was doing. Then he suddenly turns up out of blue in the Telegraph with his scheme and takeover plan. There are inaccuracies in his statement,namely that 100 houses will have to be demolished down Freeman Street. Why has he remained silent for so long? His original idea for a stadium on the docks were reportedly at the other end of the docks, near the slip way,from what I recall. Now it has moved to the other end.
I do not want to appear as though I want the stadium building down Freeman, in a perfect scenario I acually think the docks would be better, but I can't see it happening for various reasons, the main one being the land belongs to ABP, and they don't seem to be very keen on the idea. Time and costs are also a concern. Freedom is ready to go given the green light. We know Fenty and what he stands for, nobody has a clue about Shutes, and dissaping then suddenly reappearing like he has leaves more questions than answers
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Talk about not answering questions. I’ve asked you a question twice now and you’ve completely ignored it. I’ll ask you a third time. On what previous occasions has Shutes gone public with something as Day claimed and as you repeated? Given your lack of an answer it looks like you were just regurgitating guff fed to you by Day?
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I remember when Philip Day said the new ground would probably have 4 stands with open corners as that would be cheapest. Hard not to caught up when somebody is creating powerful visions like that.
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Quick question for those who are concerned re credibility - what did you make of Extreme Leisure?
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Quick question for those who are concerned re credibility - what did you make of Extreme Leisure?
Wasn’t it Mr Day who seemed to think they were a credible business (they didn’t have anything like a track record) and would be delivering a large development project within a few days of that ill fated fans forum. All we got was some dozy cow slagging off Town fans...and to think people think Shutes delivering a press release through a local newspaper is out of order. That’s the one thing that confuses me in all this, why do Town fans think Shutes, who has zero connection with the club should reach out to them before he chooses to make a press release? Let’s face it, the club don’t bottom themselves, remember slagging off a bloke for doing his job publicly? Making statements without sharing them with the trust first, and so on. Shutes does not need to seek permission from a gentleman’s club to release a statement. People can keep their rose tinted GTFC specs, people can be dead against the club, that’s everyone’s entitlement but Shutes has nothing but dignity here and it still proves the clubs initial response, as ever was somewhat amateur and fictitious in places. Simple fact is Fenty will not sell. On offer was obviously made to buy him out and have an overhaul, something he didn’t want so used the excuse of ‘proof of funds’...the fact Shutes has been financially supporting a large youth worker scheme that has recently been brought in to the area should help to prove, and anyway, his proof of funds would be proven during the due diligence phase...but Fenty didn’t agree with the deal and his yes people around him wouldn’t dare speak their mind. So I look forward to Day et al walking round town with begging bowls, once again, assuming the fans to stump up some cash...like they haven’t stumped up enough. If the club hasn’t even a plan to figure out where the money is coming from then it doesn’t fill us with much confidence that they can assemble a plan to actually deliver on the largest local development for years. But hey, let’s all crack on...UTM and all that jazz...
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The question is not whether Day/Fenty was credible over Great Coates, Parkway or anything else, it is whether Day/Fenty is credible over Freemo. We have absolutely no idea do we? This is all still ethereal visions based on what they tell us. What is likely is that the council is involved at some level but again we do not know and we are not likely to know until some scheme is either agreed or disagreed. We really should know better by now than to take face value public statements as gospel.
The second question is whether Shutes was credible in his bid and over his plan. With great respect to Shutes, I could make a plan for a ground that looks maritime on the Docks and produce a CGI of the Ice House looking like a super whorehouse. There is nothing tangible in what he has put forward. Pretty? Yes. Maybe he has nothing or maybe he just wants to keep it close for now. Maybe he has another speculative development agenda altogether and is just using a new ground as publicity and bait. Who knows? He ain't gonna tell us that is he?
But the facts as we stand are that BP is the one and only ground we are likely to have for the foreseeable future .... if there is a future for football. The rest of this really is pure speculation but I suppose it makes a change from lockdowns.
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I remember when Philip Day said the new ground would probably have 4 stands with open corners as that would be cheapest. Hard not to caught up when somebody is creating powerful visions like that.
What a vision. The idea that the current board have any credibility when it comes to them possibly delivering a stadium is laughable. Shutes’ drawings are pretty spectacular. Seems strange that he would waste his time going public about his plans for the club if he could acquire it, if it wasn’t his intention to do so. Surely the board have questions to answer on why the deal with Shutes fell through, as he presents contrary information. Why is it that we would automatically trust the board over him?
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Can someone explain to me how the club/Shutes/anyone are going to find funding for the new stadium when we are set for the biggest recession since records began ? As someone once said "not in my lifetime"
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What a vision. The idea that the current board have any credibility when it comes to them possibly delivering a stadium is laughable.
Shutes’ drawings are pretty spectacular. Seems strange that he would waste his time going public about his plans for the club if he could acquire it, if it wasn’t his intention to do so. Surely the board have questions to answer on why the deal with Shutes fell through, as he presents contrary information. Why is it that we would automatically trust the board over him?
The board has no obligation to answer anything except for its own amusement and, for all we know, this Shutes plan may be for real or just him amusing himself on the computer during lockdown. The board may have nil credibility but it has the one thing Shutes doesn’t - it has the club. That puts the board in the driving seat whether we like it or not and whether he likes it or not. The ball is always in his court to come up with an offer it can’t refuse. I don’t trust the board automatically, or even manually, over Shute, but why should anyone trust Shute either? He has only drawn some pretty pictures and raised some possibilities. There is nothing else is there? Have I missed some massive cash pot somewhere? Does he have some multi-billionaire partner with a bottomless wallet and sand in his shoes?
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