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Maybe not half the town but wasn't Peaks Parkway going to provide hundreds of houses, some community pitches, a supermarket?


Right enough 'arry. Maybe the board learned a lesson there eh? I hope so.



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Hello again.

Firstly, I decided to have a rest from all this because of all the point scoring and people putting their own personal agenda before any sensible arguments and had a pleasant time with my friend Timothy Taylor.

Now to KingstonMariners question. I was going on my own personal recollection of events. I have better things to do with my time than trawling through press reports just to prove a point to you.
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What you mean Mimma is that your comment (repeating what Day said) is a load of tripe that you cannot back up. Not even a ‘remember the time when’ or a ‘last Summer there was that thing in the GT’. Zilch!

You shouldn’t need to spend a long time trawling through press reports if you were remembering actual events.


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Hello Kingston

Since Kingston is in London, may I ask if you have any connection with Shutes or his associates?

I thought I answered your (persistent) question, when I said that it was my perception, and I cannot prove a perception. Shutes does not do interviews, videos or any other communication other than to release carefully worded articles in the Telegraph, which is where my perception comes from. Even when Fenty was asked, all he could say was he was "getting his ducks in line". Maybe he should do a "locked down, but not out" podcast! Put simply he is very mysterious which leaves us guessing, His vision looks fantastic, but is it a bit too bold for Grimsby docks? "If it looks to good to be true...."  Nobody knows why he never stayed in contact with the club, and ignored the deadline. A lot on here would like to hear his explanation, but I doubt we ever will.

As for Fenty and the board, I haven't always agreed with what they have done, like everyone on here, but the one thing you cannot deny is that the club is well run, and financially stable. The only real debt we have is Fenty's benign loan, which by football standards isn't that great, (unlike Scunny for example!). So when it comes to financing a new stadium, I trust Fenty not to put the club in the financial mire, or walk away and leave it in the hands of a "Carl or Owen Oyston" type character.Fenty would have had business loans to finance his fish business, so will know his way round.them. I agree that the peakes parkway and Extreme Leisure was a disaster, but Great Coates was down to an inept council, the club couldn't have done much more IMHO.  

I must admit that Shutes plans look fantastic, and would love to see it come to fruition in my lifetime, (I in my late 60s), but the reality is it just looks to grand for Grimsby, in London, no problem,

One final point, when the proposed takeover was first announced, Fenty said that the price (for the takeover) had been agreed, so why did it not go ahead? My guess, (and that's all it is Kingston) is that Shutes couldn't come up with the money.

Stay safe fellow Mariners and goodnight.
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Quoted from mimma
Hello Kingston

Since Kingston is in London, may I ask if you have any connection with Shutes or his associates?

I thought I answered your (persistent) question, when I said that it was my perception, and I cannot prove a perception. Shutes does not do interviews, videos or any other communication other than to release carefully worded articles in the Telegraph, which is where my perception comes from. Even when Fenty was asked, all he could say was he was "getting his ducks in line". Maybe he should do a "locked down, but not out" podcast! Put simply he is very mysterious which leaves us guessing, His vision looks fantastic, but is it a bit too bold for Grimsby docks? "If it looks to good to be true...."  Nobody knows why he never stayed in contact with the club, and ignored the deadline. A lot on here would like to hear his explanation, but I doubt we ever will.

As for Fenty and the board, I haven't always agreed with what they have done, like everyone on here, but the one thing you cannot deny is that the club is well run, and financially stable. The only real debt we have is Fenty's benign loan, which by football standards isn't that great, (unlike Scunny for example!). So when it comes to financing a new stadium, I trust Fenty not to put the club in the financial mire, or walk away and leave it in the hands of a "Carl or Owen Oyston" type character.Fenty would have had business loans to finance his fish business, so will know his way round.them. I agree that the peakes parkway and Extreme Leisure was a disaster, but Great Coates was down to an inept council, the club couldn't have done much more IMHO.  

I must admit that Shutes plans look fantastic, and would love to see it come to fruition in my lifetime, (I in my late 60s), but the reality is it just looks to grand for Grimsby, in London, no problem,

One final point, when the proposed takeover was first announced, Fenty said that the price (for the takeover) had been agreed, so why did it not go ahead? My guess, (and that's all it is Kingston) is that Shutes couldn't come up with the money.

Stay safe fellow Mariners and goodnight.


Absolutely nothing to do with the man. I’d never even heard of him until the rumours of the takeover were reported on this board. I have no particular wish to see Shutes takeover the club. I know next to nothing about him or where the money is coming from. I would be dead against the Trust selling up its shares to ANYONE.

You know London is a big city, so strange as it might seem, I don’t know everybody. Try to imagine if you can, that for every person in Grimsby, there’s 100 times that many in London. I’d imagine that you don’t know everyone in GY.

As for you having an impression, that’s fair enough. But you’ve just admitted it’s a completely baseless one. You’d have been much better off saying ‘my bad, I got it wrong’.

As for Fenty’s stewardship. It’s been disastrous. We started to get a grip financially when the Trust got on the board.


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PS Fenty continued to pursue the Great Coates option long after it was a dead duck and the club had to write off £££££.

He’s a serial pursuer of pipe dreams. It wouldn’t surprise me if Freeman Street went the same way. Then he’ll jump on the docks plan when it becomes clear that it too is a non-starter.


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Hi Kingston. Since you live in London I wondered if you'd met my friend from school called Tony?
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Hi Kingston. Since you live in London I wondered if you'd met my friend from school called Tony?


I worked with a Tony once in Glasgow, is that the same bloke ?


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I worked with a Tony once in Glasgow, is that the same bloke ?


No your talking about the Tony who wears a woman's skirt, a red wig, a kitchen knife down his sock and struts about blowing up an octopuses bottom
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Is that the Tony who has a weapon of mass destruction??

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Quoted from mimma
Hello Kingston

Since Kingston is in London, may I ask if you have any connection with Shutes or his associates?

I thought I answered your (persistent) question, when I said that it was my perception, and I cannot prove a perception. Shutes does not do interviews, videos or any other communication other than to release carefully worded articles in the Telegraph, which is where my perception comes from. Even when Fenty was asked, all he could say was he was "getting his ducks in line". Maybe he should do a "locked down, but not out" podcast! Put simply he is very mysterious which leaves us guessing, His vision looks fantastic, but is it a bit too bold for Grimsby docks? "If it looks to good to be true...."  Nobody knows why he never stayed in contact with the club, and ignored the deadline. A lot on here would like to hear his explanation, but I doubt we ever will.

As for Fenty and the board, I haven't always agreed with what they have done, like everyone on here, but the one thing you cannot deny is that the club is well run, and financially stable. The only real debt we have is Fenty's benign loan, which by football standards isn't that great, (unlike Scunny for example!). So when it comes to financing a new stadium, I trust Fenty not to put the club in the financial mire, or walk away and leave it in the hands of a "Carl or Owen Oyston" type character.Fenty would have had business loans to finance his fish business, so will know his way round.them. I agree that the peakes parkway and Extreme Leisure was a disaster, but Great Coates was down to an inept council, the club couldn't have done much more IMHO.  

I must admit that Shutes plans look fantastic, and would love to see it come to fruition in my lifetime, (I in my late 60s), but the reality is it just looks to grand for Grimsby, in London, no problem,

One final point, when the proposed takeover was first announced, Fenty said that the price (for the takeover) had been agreed, so why did it not go ahead? My guess, (and that's all it is Kingston) is that Shutes couldn't come up with the money.

Stay safe fellow Mariners and goodnight.


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