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Civvy at last
March 26, 2020, 10:26am

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Yes,  on every interview their politicians look more competent and informed
Certainly no worse, we need truth not wishful thinking, we have only just got round to telling Dyson to start making respirators, we are looking at 2 months before we get one. PPE should have been stocked up from case number 1, everything has been reactive rather than pro active.
In 2016 a man exercise to highlight how ready we were for a pandemic found we had a completely inadequate number of ventilators,
Would they be running to catch up as in 1997 of course they would, cutting 30,000 beds in the last 10 years, allowing the NHS to get into a state were waiting times have quadrupled, there are 40,000 frontline vacancies and trying to hive off sections to rich tax exiles have got us were we are today.
Add to that 21000 cut to police and 27000 less in the army we are seeing the foolishness of the austerity, we owe more than 3 times as much as a country as we did 10years ago.
Look at Germany , they took immediate action already had more than three times our respirators and have nearly doubled that as well as the beds required, they don’t have a shortage of PPE.  They are a conservative government, it’s not about politics it’s about competence. Hancock and Johnson are just making up numbers as a wish and trust is essential


Course it's not



The wife was going away for a girly weekend.
I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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March 26, 2020, 10:33am
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"Fatty Johnson" - oh dear! So obviously you have a perfect body and decry anybody who hasn't.


I was being kind, perhaps serial liar(sacked first this twice), adulterer (attacks single mothers but quite happy to have made a few of his own), racist take your pick of his back catalogue.

Has he got a difficult job ? Of course he has, will saying things he wishes were true help anyone? Do I think he’s up to it? No but it matters little, he is who we voted for and I hope he succeeds as much as possible. Does that mean he shouldn’t be critiqued? Does it mean we should not ask why our plans were so slow and different from the WHO recommended one?
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March 26, 2020, 11:15am
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Course it's not



So you think letting the NHS, Police and Army get in such a state was wise?
So you think having seen what was happening in China and Italy and not planning for PPE, respirators and testing kits was wise ?
You cannot justify incompetence by saying someone else might have been even more incompetent, get your tongue out of Johnson’s bottom and take a critical look at what’s going on.
Have had to lay good people off this week, nothing is clear enough to plan to do any other. Maybe you are in a position that this crisis makes no difference, but every decision or lack of it means altered or lost lives
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March 26, 2020, 11:19am

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I was being kind, perhaps serial liar(sacked first this twice), adulterer (attacks single mothers but quite happy to have made a few of his own), racist take your pick of his back catalogue.

Has he got a difficult job ? Of course he has, will saying things he wishes were true help anyone? Do I think he’s up to it? No but it matters little, he is who we voted for and I hope he succeeds as much as possible. Does that mean he shouldn’t be critiqued? Does it mean we should not ask why our plans were so slow and different from the WHO recommended one?


No problem with criticising his approach and decisions because that comes with the territory of being in politics. But to resort to playground attitudes like calling somebody "fatty" just completely destroys anything constructive you have to say. Do you apply that same attitude to disabled people or those with mental problems?


The Future is Black & White.
"The commonest thing on this planet is not water , as some people believe, but stupidity ". Frank Zappa
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Do you apply that same attitude to disabled people or those with mental problems?


Well I certainly think he may have a mental problem if he thinks the situation with this virus will be any different in 12 weeks or 22 weeks.



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Well I certainly think he may have a mental problem if he thinks the situation with this virus will be any different in 12 weeks or 22 weeks.



Christ what does that make Trump then? he thinks it's going to business as usual by Easter
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Course it's not



Is that your response in the face of a reasoned argument?


"The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That’s how I see football, that’s how I see life.” Bill Shankly
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No problem with criticising his approach and decisions because that comes with the territory of being in politics. But to resort to playground attitudes like calling somebody "fatty" just completely destroys anything constructive you have to say. Do you apply that same attitude to disabled people or those with mental problems?


Typical of  you snowflake generation, have a look at some of the things you have called Dianne Abbot even in this thread which is quite random
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My wife was (eventually) diagnosed with a chronic lung disease a year ago.  Her lungs are physically damaged and there is no cure.  A lung transplant cannot be done.  Smoking does not cause it and she has never smoked.  The cause is unknown but there is evidential links to getting measles or whooping cough as a child. She is 62.

She already had severe asthma and the key medications for the lung disease weaken her immune system. Therefore, as being at very high risk, we were already staying in. I have to keep very safe so as not to pass the virus on.

  You have to take your humour where you find it.  This week she has received numerous texts from the NHS on a daily basis highlighting the safety precautions.  She also received a long, detailed letter from her GP.

I said "Christ, you need to stay in every day just to read all the instructions about staying in!".  

When Boris made his National Emergency speech we were already complying.  I looked at the dog and said "This is only about you!" I will be taking him for one walk a day as part of my exercising.
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March 26, 2020, 12:36pm

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Typical of  you snowflake generation, have a look at some of the things you have called Dianne Abbot even in this thread which is quite random


I never realised people born in 1948 were part of the "snowflake generation".


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