Club not for sale..

Quoted from Bigdog

To allay any fears of yet another false dawn regarding a new stadium and avoid any more prolonged conjecture, I'd like to think that the interested parties, GTFC, NELC, The Freemen Of Grimsby, architects and property developers could get their heads together and come up with a bare framework of a plan by the summer. Something the public of NE Lincs and the wider fanbase of GTFC can all get behind and buy into. If bringing the plan to reality requires public money flowing in from the Government to back up its election promise to the northern heartlands, then so be it. It's about time places like Grimsby get their fair share for once. An immediate outward impression of extreme urgency is required from the boardroom to capitalise on the initial feelgood factor that IH has brought with him.. he can't do it all on his own..

You missed out the most important enablers..... the financiers!

Building a few starter homes on the land that BP sits on won’t drive the revenues needed to relocate.

Still not clear where the what 20/30 million will come from for this.

If it a 'community stadium' like the council allude to with other uses we can possibly tap into Government funding of which there already some we know about about and probably more with the 'levelling up' of investment in the North.

Quoted from TownSNAFU5

People with money, influence and power usually like to leave a long-lasting legacy of their achievements (and ego).

A new stadium and/or town-centre fits into this.  Not sure where this takes us but decisions made on emotion rather than logic should not be ruled out.

If Fenty delivers a stadium at Freemo all the excrement before will be forgiven, unless we do a Chesterfield or even, worse a Darlo. And provided it doesn't look like a Scunthorpe United subbuteo stadium...

We need a 5k seat posh stand with exec boxes and 200 place banquet / conferencing. A 4k seat away end to milk the yorkies for when we get back to Sheffield Wednesday's level. A 4k rail seat Pontoon that will be a mini-version of Dortmund's awesome home end and produce a wall of noise, and then a small 3k seat cheap stand down one side for now, which can have a second tier added once we reach the Premiership. I'm thinking that will be on the day Manchester United are relegated. It's 70 years since we played them and I've concluded we'll never play them in my lifetime...

Quoted from HertsGTFC

You missed out the most important enablers..... the financiers!

Building a few starter homes on the land that BP sits on won’t drive the revenues needed to relocate.

Still not clear where the what 20/30 million will come from for this.

Purposely left out the perennial elephant in the room, private and enabling funding Herts. I know there's a massive black hole that doesn't tally with the bold claims coming from JF in a recent interview and now the programme notes too. Quite a bit of tongue in cheek with my original post and more of a challenge for JF to prove it's not hollow words yet again. Suddenly we've gone from a one in one out transfer window to making a 30m stadium appear financially. Really doesn't stack up does it? And unfair to raise fans hopes time and time again by someone who can't leave 2m in the club kitty for the greater good and publicly humiliate potential investors for not coming up with greater sums than he's ever put in himself and not expecting them to be paid back unlike what he's demanding for himself.

If JF can back up his big talk then it will be great for everyone and a feather in his cap, but I just can't see it unless Boris finds a covert way to chuck 30m the club's way or the board saddle the club with a huge bridging loan for years to come for it to own its own stadium. Only other way is for the council to come up with the funding/free enabling land.for the club which seems highly unlikely.

Call me cynical, but I still don't envisage sitting in a new stadium down Freemo in my lifetime and JF's words are just hot air yet again..

Quoted from Bigdog

Purposely left out the perennial elephant in the room, private and enabling funding Herts. I know there's a massive black hole that doesn't tally with the bold claims coming from JF in a recent interview and now the programme notes too. Quite a bit of tongue in cheek with my original post and more of a challenge for JF to prove it's not hollow words yet again. Suddenly we've gone from a one in one out transfer window to making a 30m stadium appear financially. Really doesn't stack up does it? And unfair to raise fans hopes time and time again by someone who can't leave 2m in the club kitty for the greater good and publicly humiliate potential investors for not coming up with greater sums than he's ever put in himself and not expecting them to be paid back unlike what he's demanding for himself.

If JF can back up his big talk then it will be great for everyone and a feather in his cap, but I just can't see it unless Boris finds a covert way to chuck 30m the club's way or the board saddle the club with a huge bridging loan for years to come for it to own its own stadium. Only other way is for the council to come up with the funding/free enabling land.for the club which seems highly unlikely.

Call me cynical, but I still don't envisage sitting in a new stadium down Freemo in my lifetime and JF's words are just hot air yet again..

Yeah but that’s because you’re not with the programme of positivity. The money’s going to come from......somewhere. Like the ‘northern levelling up’ money which GTFC is a top priority for.

Quoted from Rik e B

If it a 'community stadium' like the council allude to with other uses we can possibly tap into Government funding of which there already some we know about about and probably more with the 'levelling up' of investment in the North.

What’s that then?

Quoted from KingstonMariner

Yeah but that’s because you’re not with the programme of positivity. The money’s going to come from......somewhere. Like the ‘northern levelling up’ money which GTFC is a top priority for.

On the pitch I'm totally signed up to the programme Kingston. I'm not gullible enough to think that leopards can change their spots, IH can grow magic money trees or suddenly turn muppets into messiahs off the pitch though..

Quoted from Ipswin

It works OK for Colchester (on worse gates than ours too) Don't forget how much you save on stadium upkeep etc

Colchester's owner has also sunk £22 million into the club since taking over in 2006 and they consistently lose money.  They moved into their new ground in 2008 and have gradually declined since.  

Moving into a new stadium would certainly be morale boosting and would be fantastic for the Freemo area if it kick-started regeneration, but there's no evidence that I can see that renting your main facilities does you any financial favours at all.  Coventry, Ipswich, West Ham, etc have not benefited from it.  Granted, Man City are an exception but they are backed by a state's wealth fund.   A 'community' stadium would also need to be multi-purpose and there might need to be compromises on design that might not result in the best football experience.  

I'm in favour of a new stadium as we badly need infrastructure improvements but unless there is some tangible benefit to be gained from it, I'd rather do up BP.

Well Ska the Greater Grimsby Project I believe can be molded around the stadium to pay for what otherwise would be massive additional infrastructure costs and I'm sure council have alluded to being able to get hold of a bit.

Funding this is the biggest problem and question that nobody has ever asked, neither have we been given anything like a real explanation...instead people have been more concerned about what bloody food we’re gonna sell in this imaginary stadium.

I can’t see any large sums of cash coming from central government, whatever that buffoon claims. Nor does the council have much spare cash.

A community project can work, providing its done correctly and possibly with the deal that should the club wish to purchase after so many years, they can. City did something similar.

But ultimately, just how will the money be found. Not sure a few of us finding a tenner down the back of a settee will help...