At last, we are officially out of the EU tonight.

And about time, don't believe all the scare mongering, they need us as much as we need them.

They really don't.

They would certainly like to have a close relationship with us with as few changes as possible to reduce any damage to the EU economy but, ultimately, we're no longer members of the club so expect the negotiations to reflect this. The integrity of the EU and Single Market as a whole is of much, much more importance than their relationship with us

We've got 11 months now for those who promised us Brexit would be a great success to come up with a free trade deal with the EU which doesn't damage our economy too much. It's pretty much an impossibility given the complexities of the relationship and the decades we've been linked together. If the rhetoric from Johnson, Gove and Co is anything but bluff (and it has to be bluff because they can't be that stupid otherwise?), it's going to be a tricky year.

If you've got the time, here's a good run down of the problems we'll have in getting even a basic trade deal done, especially in the time limit Johnson has foolishly imposed on us:

https://www.politics.co.uk/blo.....about-johnson-s-trad

First time I can recall that I've been on this forum for weeks with too much going on at work and at home to consider it. Doubt I've missed much because, despite lots of promises to the contrary, Johnson's government really hasn't done much. Probably the laziest Prime Minister we've ever had.

Anyway, I only hope that the negotiators somehow pull a rabbit out of a hat or the EU goes gentle on us because otherwise, it will be a fraught year, even if nothing materially changes until after the transition period. I'd imagine the rhetoric around fishing will indicate the direction of travel. A big politicial issue in both the UK and the EU so that will set the scene for the rest of the negotiations. If we don't pretty much agree to the status quo after the initial sabre rattling, I'd be amazed and appalled because that will lead to almost everything else off the table for us for the important bits of our economy.

11 months now of cryarsing from those negotiating on our behalf because the EU won’t play nicely...

Quoted from Maringer

They really don't.

They would certainly like to have a close relationship with us with as few changes as possible to reduce any damage to the EU economy but, ultimately, we're no longer members of the club so expect the negotiations to reflect this. The integrity of the EU and Single Market as a whole is of much, much more importance than their relationship with us

We've got 11 months now for those who promised us Brexit would be a great success to come up with a free trade deal with the EU which doesn't damage our economy too much. It's pretty much an impossibility given the complexities of the relationship and the decades we've been linked together. If the rhetoric from Johnson, Gove and Co is anything but bluff (and it has to be bluff because they can't be that stupid otherwise?), it's going to be a tricky year.

If you've got the time, here's a good run down of the problems we'll have in getting even a basic trade deal done, especially in the time limit Johnson has foolishly imposed on us:

https://www.politics.co.uk/blo.....about-johnson-s-trad

First time I can recall that I've been on this forum for weeks with too much going on at work and at home to consider it. Doubt I've missed much because, despite lots of promises to the contrary, Johnson's government really hasn't done much. Probably the laziest Prime Minister we've ever had.

Anyway, I only hope that the negotiators somehow pull a rabbit out of a hat or the EU goes gentle on us because otherwise, it will be a fraught year, even if nothing materially changes until after the transition period. I'd imagine the rhetoric around fishing will indicate the direction of travel. A big politicial issue in both the UK and the EU so that will set the scene for the rest of the negotiations. If we don't pretty much agree to the status quo after the initial sabre rattling, I'd be amazed and appalled because that will lead to almost everything else off the table for us for the important bits of our economy.

You have been wrong on pretty much everything so far with your droning anti UK and anti Conservative party monologues so I expect this one to go the same way.

How has he been wrong? We’re not properly out yet. We’ve just moved from being a rule maker to being a rule taker for the next 11 months.

Fishing or finance? Hmmm! I wonder how that’s going to go.

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You have been wrong on pretty much everything so far with your droning anti UK and anti Conservative party monologues so I expect this one to go the same way.

And this is one of the reasons I've not tried to find the time for this forum. I made a post containing some opinions, backed it up with a link to some information (and with every post I make on this forum), yet you leave a content-free response. Trying to play the man, not the ball to use football parlance.

Are you confident that the government can succeed in these negotiations given the difficulties pointed out in the linked page? If so, tell us why.

Johnson has repeatedly insisted that there won't be any additional paperwork for shipments to and from NI which simply isn't true. He's either ignorant or simply lying. Probably both. With these people in charge of the show and foolishly limiting the negotiating time-limit to 11 months, even the most ardent Brexiteer should be very worried about where we are heading.

So at the age of 48 after all my life I’m no longer a European, my rights have been taken away together with an economic freedom in the biggest global free market.

Yet, I’m still not aware of what benefits this will have?

Listened to the political drivel last night talking how we need to heal our divided society? Yes, that is correct but it was those same politicians who triggered this mess over 4 years ago and created the divisions that didn’t exist.

Celebrate Brexit day but you have been conned. Rule Britannia.

Despite the constant moaning, despite the constant know it all's trying to undermine democracy, and despite all the hysterics and fear mongering.

Finally

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So at the age of 48 after all my life I’m no longer a European, my rights have been taken away together with an economic freedom in the biggest global free market.

Yet, I’m still not aware of what benefits this will have?

Which is the reason why, once it is known exactly what effect (benefits or otherwise) leaving will have, the opinion of the people (who voted in the first referendum without knowing what leaving would entail) should have been sought a second time.

Personally I doubt it will have any benefits, I expect us to get totally screwed unless we roll over on fishing. It won't matter to me at my advanced age but it sure has screwed it up for my grand kids. Taking back our 'sovereignty' will mean nowt if the economy is copulated

Regarding the fishing rights who will go out to sea in all weather's working all hours from today's youth. ?

Most of them just want to go to uni or have a 9 to 5 job.

The experienced fishermen like my brother in law are far too old now.

We still get plenty of fish coming through Grimsby so use it as a bargaining point.