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smokey111
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We're watching and we are hundred percent Town. Maybe you should demand more? You want me and others who are like me hauled out, banned? Tarred and feathered for having an opinion you don't like and daring to voice that opinion? It isn't good enough. You're okay with it are you?


Read what I wrote again. Nothing about the standards on the pitch just the behaviour of a bunch of mindless neanderthals. If you want to be associated with that kind of bullying, spineless bunch of p****s then so be it. Watch the game, voice an opinion, even boo if you feel it will lift the morale of the players!

Tarred and feathered......that is exactly what I would of like to have seen that day at Oldham. Around 25 males between the ages of 16 and bizarrely 50 odd. Embarrassing, just embarrassing.


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December 26, 2019, 10:37pm
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Booing isn't going to help though is it, I personally would hate to be boo'd from my own fans. I'd lose alll confidence...
The other week i took my team to a place near Bridgwater and they had 100 odd fans watching, 20 odd urine heads. I was playing right back and they kept calling me excrement when i played a ball into the channel until i hit a perfect 30 yard pass to set up my winger who then scored (we won) Anyway, that was quite intimidating but actually it spered me on, whereas if it was my own teams 'fans' I'd lose motivation, especially if I knew I put my all in eacch game which these lads clearly are doing.

Do people boo you at work if you make a mistake or if someone sat opposite you or whatever is doing a better job?


The players need to man up. They've had support since we dropped out of the championship in 2001 and it's time for them to give something back. I'm not even having a go at the players, it isn't like they are booed at every turn. Today, they played a shocking side of cloggers, was a bad heavy pitch but was the same for both sides. You can make too many excuses for them sometimes. Not winning there was poor, really poor as they were so bad.

I see no reason in supporting them throughout the 90+ but if they haven't delievered, making our feelings known at the end, as I did.
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December 26, 2019, 10:43pm
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Read what I wrote again. Nothing about the standards on the pitch just the behaviour of a bunch of mindless neanderthals. If you want to be associated with that kind of bullying, spineless bunch of p****s then so be it. Watch the game, voice an opinion, even boo if you feel it will lift the morale of the players!

Tarred and feathered......that is exactly what I would of like to have seen that day at Oldham. Around 25 males between the ages of 16 and bizarrely 50 odd. Embarrassing, just embarrassing.


Not mindless at all, you're calling a load of people neanderthals. People who no doubt have supported our club through thick and mostly very thin over decades, away fans. I respect your opinion, many of us have had enough, we are desperate and see no end in sight to the misery that has been inflicted upon us. Bullying? Bullying who? Explain yourself?

What do you want? You want us to keep 'getting behind the boys' or some other soundbyte? Why not embrace reality and demand more? Or if you're happy to keep turning up and keep clapping, maybe show a bit of respect to people who have passion, insight and have no fears about showing it?
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The players need to man up. They've had support since we dropped out of the championship in 2001 and it's time for them to give something back. I'm not even having a go at the players, it isn't like they are booed at every turn. Today, they played a shocking side of cloggers, was a bad heavy pitch but was the same for both sides. You can make too many excuses for them sometimes. Not winning there was poor, really poor as they were so bad.








I bet they went into the dressing room feeling 10 feet tall. I can imagine Clifton saying to Wright "That drunk up spotty teenage p***k is right, we aren't fit to wear the shirt"

F****ng unbelievable. I genuinely despair.




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We're watching and we are hundred percent Town. Maybe you should demand more? You want me and others who are like me hauled out, banned? Tarred and feathered for having an opinion you don't like and daring to voice that opinion? It isn't good enough. You're okay with it are you?


You and your motley crew were an embarrassment. Protesting against Fenty is one thing. Verbally abusing and gestculating to young players at the end of the game is another.
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Not mindless at all, you're calling a load of people neanderthals. People who no doubt have supported our club through thick and mostly very thin over decades, away fans. I respect your opinion, many of us have had enough, we are desperate and see no end in sight to the misery that has been inflicted upon us. Bullying? Bullying who? Explain yourself?

What do you want? You want us to keep 'getting behind the boys' or some other soundbyte? Why not embrace reality and demand more? Or if you're happy to keep turning up and keep clapping, maybe show a bit of respect to people who have passion, insight and have no fears about showing it?


Explain myself.....pushing stewards, when their backs were turned. Kicking hoardings. Verbally abusing and intimidating such stewards.

If that is passion, keep it.

No fears about showing it...........Degrading and embarrassing behaviour.

I am actually annoyed at myself because we are arguing about separate things. How to conduct yourself at a football ground and whether it us right to boo/berate the players at the end. The latter, if you wish to do so, is your right when you have bought a ticket. Not something I would do, but certainly your choice.


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December 26, 2019, 10:57pm
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Anyway, season greetings to all. Off to watch Match of the Day and then the cricket!!!!


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Explain myself.....pushing stewards, when their backs were turned. Kicking hoardings. Verbally abusing and intimidating such stewards.

If that is passion, keep it.

No fears about showing it...........Degrading and embarrassing behaviour.

I am actually annoyed at myself because we are arguing about separate things. How to conduct yourself at a football ground and whether it us right to boo/berate the players at the end. The latter, if you wish to do so, is your right when you have bought a ticket. Not something I would do, but certainly your choice.


Not me, and saw nonbody kicking hoardings or 'verbally abusing or intimidating' stewards. Twaddle from a snowflake IMO.
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December 26, 2019, 11:04pm
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I was referring to Oldham. All of which happened, I witnessed it.


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I've never felt comfortable booing my own players. I understand that it's a way of telling players their efforts are unacceptable but to be honest, whether we like it or not, we have fourth division-standard players; they're no world-beaters and, you know, they might not always be able to steamroller another fourth division side (particularly when they're confidence and morale is already at an all-time low).

I watched a lot of our games in 2009/10 and I can tell you now, I'd much prefer this squad of players over that one. You can stuff your Proudlocks and Linwoods up your bottom. What I see in this team - even if it's struggling to score goals - is effort.

I don't deny that I'm disappointed we didn't win today. Macclesfield were there for the taking, but we've not won since September and we hadn't scored since October so, given all that background, maybe we should just this once reflect on the positives and try and build on them, instead of booing them back into the dirt.


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