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December 26, 2019, 5:23pm

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So if I've heard it right, Humberside saying Town are interested in Ian Holloway to take over as manager, thoughts ?


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Interested, it's only news if it's a two way street, what's Ian Holloway saying?


Supporting the Mighty Mariners for over 30 years, home town club is were the heart and soul is and it's great to be a part of it.

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BUT

Is Holloway interested in coming to Grimsby


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Can’t see Mr Holloway and Mr Fenty seeing eye to eye on many things.
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Apart from Blackpool I'm not sure what he's actually done as a Manager, certainly a character but he's not worked as a manager for a while which might tell you something.......... is RH interviews would be worth a listen.

Matt Dean has just said that "the club are giving Anthony Limbrick a chance to earn the job" at what cost I wonder....?  


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IIRC, the barrier to Holloway coming to us previously was having a disabled daughter (deaf, maybe? Can't remember precisely), and there was no special school that met her needs.
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December 26, 2019, 5:34pm

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If you believe what he says on his numerous media/pundit roles he's desperate to get back into management. He's been out of work 19 months and counting. Obviously he knows how many jobs he's applied for and how many interviews he's had in that time, but I think he's the sort of manager that will take what ever job he has to after that long out of the game.
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IIRC, the barrier to Holloway coming to us previously was having a disabled daughter (deaf, maybe? Can't remember precisely), and there was no special school that met her needs.


They're all grown up now
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Quoted from wigworld
IIRC, the barrier to Holloway coming to us previously was having a disabled daughter (deaf, maybe? Can't remember precisely), and there was no special school that met her needs.


He has 2 adults daughters who are deaf.


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He has said he is in talks with a club at present, so it could possibly be us. His stock isn't very high at the moment, so as Golly intimates, he needs to get back on the ladder. Wouldn't be a dull moment if he does get the job.
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Apart from Blackpool I'm not sure what he's actually done as a Manager, certainly a character but he's not worked as a manager for a while which might tell you something.......... is RH interviews would be worth a listen.

Matt Dean has just said that "the club are giving Anthony Limbrick a chance to earn the job" at what cost I wonder....?  


Did a decent job at Bristol Rovers. Went to QPR and got them back in the Championship. Did quite well at Plymouth in Championship. Left to take over at Leicester and failed to keep them in Championship. Went to Blackpool and took them to Premier League and lost another play-off final to take them back up. Moved on to Crystal Palace and took them straight up to the Premier League. Had an indifferent spell at Millwall and was sacked. Then went back to QPR and did okay until he was sacked in May 2018.
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He has 2 adults daughters who are deaf.


I think it's 3 deaf daughters isn't it?
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He likes his teams to play good attacking football. Blackpool didn't win that many premier league games but won a lot of admires with the way they played the game.

I hope we can get him, at least we might see some football breaking out at Blundell Park.
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Hugely respected and a proven winner. If he’s available and interested would be a huge own goal if he’s not appointed.

Expect AL to be announced tomorrow...
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He has said he is in talks with a club at present, so it could possibly be us. His stock isn't very high at the moment, so as Golly intimates, he needs to get back on the ladder. Wouldn't be a dull moment if he does get the job.


For Ollie it's 02:45 and the night club is emptying. The only girl (GTFC) left in the club are a right minger, but that's his only option...
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Did a decent job at Bristol Rovers. Went to QPR and got them back in the Championship. Did quite well at Plymouth in Championship. Left to take over at Leicester and failed to keep them in Championship. Went to Blackpool and took them to Premier League and lost another play-off final to take them back up. Moved on to Crystal Palace and took them straight up to the Premier League. Had an indifferent spell at Millwall and was sacked. Then went back to QPR and did okay until he was sacked in May 2018.


So apart from all that, what has he done to earn the right to lead the mighty Mariners.  
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Did a decent job at Bristol Rovers. Went to QPR and got them back in the Championship. Did quite well at Plymouth in Championship. Left to take over at Leicester and failed to keep them in Championship. Went to Blackpool and took them to Premier League and lost another play-off final to take them back up. Moved on to Crystal Palace and took them straight up to the Premier League. Had an indifferent spell at Millwall and was sacked. Then went back to QPR and did okay until he was sacked in May 2018.


TBH, I knew he'd been at a few clubs but actually that's relatively positive, at the moment we need more than Limbrick who's clearly trying to change things but I feel a newcomer would breath some life in the place, Holloway is certainly a character for sure.  


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Hugely respected and a proven winner. If he’s available and interested would be a huge own goal if he’s not appointed.

Expect AL to be announced tomorrow...


Fenty is always moaning that they can only spend 50% of turnover on non-exempted player wages, so why not spend a bit extra on a proven manager?
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For Ollie it's 02:45 and the night club is emptying. The only girl (GTFC) left in the club are a right minger, but that's his only option...


Probably got his beer goggles on by now then.

Good analogy by the way.
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For Ollie it's 02:45 and the night club is emptying. The only girl (GTFC) left in the club are a right minger, but that's his only option...


Ha ha ha .... I see your reference there ...


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Can't remember who had pasted his interview with Bristol paper saying that he was disappoint ed that Rovers weren't interested but he had been speaking to another league club. Have to say he increasingly looks like our only hope
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Quoted from GollyGTFC


For Ollie it's 02:45 and the night club is emptying. The only girl (GTFC) left in the club are a right minger, but that's his only option...


Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder.  


Supporting Town for 65 years.  
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Latest odds of Sky Bet...

Limbrick 1/5 *
Nolan 2/1
Ollie 8/1

* Sky Bet pay out after 10 competitive games as caretaker/interim manager, so would pay out of Limbrick if he is still in charge for Mansfield game on 4th Jan.
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Used to be decent ages ago.  Old-fashioned, out-dated views.  Complains about officials a lot.

Sounds a great fit for you lot.


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For Ollie it's 02:45 and the night club is emptying. The only girl (GTFC) left in the club are a right minger, but that's his only option...


Watch out for the controlling ex boyfriend though Ollie.  He’s horrible and won’t let her go.
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Quoted from Stevie Cammack
Used to be decent ages ago.  Old-fashioned, out-dated views.  Complains about officials a lot.

Sounds a great fit for you lot.


What's your 15 years and counting thing about? 15 years since GTFC loaned you the recently sacked Paul Groves otherwise you would have dropped out of the Football League?
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What's your 15 years and counting thing about? 15 years since GTFC loaned you the recently sacked Paul Groves otherwise you would have dropped out of the Football League?


No Gollster, it is to mark the one and a half decades you have sat below the Claret and Blue Wizards of Scunthorpe United Football Club in the Football Pyramid Final Standings.


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Please, please,please can we just ignore him? He is just plain boring with the wind ups and we keep biting. It's not improving the fishy by any means
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Please, please,please can we just ignore him? He is just plain boring with the wind ups and we keep biting. It's not improving the fishy by any means


And as we've found out on another thread can't get off his backside to travel a few miles from the East Midlands to watch his team on a Bank Holiday............. nothing worse than a mouthy plastic!  


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Please, please,please can we just ignore him? He is just plain boring with the wind ups and we keep biting. It's not improving the fishy by any means


Don't know why the mods don't just feck him off. Adds nothing to the forum but antagonism.
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Certainly the name that makes you look up with interest. I like Limbrick as a person but he isnt the man to take us forward
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Don't know why the mods don't just feck him off. Adds nothing to the forum but antagonism.


Because JF hasn't requested it,...........that's usually the trigger to get something taken off the baord.  


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Don't know why the mods don't just feck him off. Adds nothing to the forum but antagonism.


We don’t all have the power to get rid. Just easier if people don’t bite.
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Holloway would be  a positive appointment.
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Don't know why the mods don't just feck him off. Adds nothing to the forum but antagonism.


Perhaps it may be more sensible to 'Block' my posts instead of crying to site administration about it?  

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We don’t all have the power to get rid. Just easier if people don’t bite.


Would you "get rid" LH?  If yes, why?


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Quoted from Marinerz93
Interested, it's only news if it's a two way street, what's Ian Holloway saying?


I don't know but then no sodomist could understand him anyway



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Regardless of wether it’s Holliway or A N Other a decision really needs to be made now.

A new manager needs to have a chance to asses what he has and make some additions in January. Wasting time at the moment does us no good at all.

As much as I like Limbrick and wanted him to earn a chance, he simply hasn’t done enough. Yes results have improved but football is a results business.

IMO if there’s any interest from Holloway we need to do whatever we can, how often do teams in our position have the chance for a candidate with his pedigree ....


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And as we've found out on another thread can't get off his backside to travel a few miles from the East Midlands to watch his team on a Bank Holiday............. nothing worse than a mouthy plastic!  


How old are you, 12?  Is watching Grimsby your number one priority in life?  If so, get a grip and a life mate!  Jesus wept.


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How old are you, 12?  Is watching Grimsby your number one priority in life?  If so, get a grip and a life mate!  Jesus wept.


A point I've just made on another thread TBH.......

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1577295237/

Bit behind the 8 ball there Steve....


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A point I've just made on another thread TBH.......

https://forum.thefishy.co.uk/Blah.pl?m-1577295237/

Bit behind the 8 ball there Steve....


Makes it worse mate if anything - you of all people should realise that perhaps people have more important things to do on Boxing Day than travelling 150 miles to watch Scunny v Wallsall.  If that makes me a "plastic" whom there is "nothing worse" than in your eyes, then I don't really value your opinion tbh, although you are of course entitled to it.  

Or should I petition for a moderators ban as you are so immature and I just don't like it!  


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Don't respond it really is tedious, he really is tedious. Can't he just be binned as it's making the fishy tedious?
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Don't respond it really is tedious, he really is tedious. Can't he just be binned as it's making the fishy tedious?


Bit harsh, I usually enjoy HertsGTFC posts 🙂
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Bit harsh, I usually enjoy HertsGTFC posts 🙂


Lol
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Holloway is the regular pundit on quest isn't he? So obviously is going to be up to speed on the lower leagues.

Ps can someone explain how I block the village idiot?
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Don't respond it really is tedious, he really is tedious. Can't he just be binned as it's making the fishy tedious?


Its another toddler rattling their bars!  


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Holloway is the regular pundit on quest isn't he? So obviously is going to be up to speed on the lower leagues.

Ps can someone explain how I block the village idiot?


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Bit harsh, I usually enjoy HertsGTFC posts 🙂


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See this rumour is hitting full tilt tonight

Would be great if true


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Won’t happen. Fenty will do 2010 all over again and employ Limbrick after finally scoring after 700(?) minutes
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Mate had been told a few days ago that Holloway had come up for talks last week.can't vouch for the veracity of that story
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As much as I would like there to be some truth in this, GTFC have always given us consistency in areas like this, and for that reason, I am confident that it won’t be happening!!!

Too much money, Contract not long enough and geographically too Northern.  I am sure he will just be using it to tout his name for other upcoming managerial vacancies.

Prove me wrong GTFC!!!!
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Quoted from 1542
As much as I would like there to be some truth in this, GTFC have always given us consistency in areas like this, and for that reason, I am confident that it won’t be happening!!!

Too much money, Contract not long enough and geographically too Northern.  I am sure he will just be using it to tout his name for other upcoming managerial vacancies.

Prove me wrong GTFC!!!!


I doubt it. He's been linked with every Championship, L1 & some L2 vacancies for the past 18 months and he's still not back in the game. I remember during his last sabatical from the game (12 months between leaving Leicester and joining Blackpool) he was on BBC 5 Live as a pundit when they interviewed new Grimsby manager Mike Newell. Ollie was surprisingly knowledgeable about GTFC back then and even mentioned a couple of players he liked to Mike Newell.
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I doubt it. He's been linked with every Championship, L1 & some L2 vacancies for the past 18 months and he's still not back in the game. I remember during his last sabatical from the game (12 months between leaving Leicester and joining Blackpool) he was on BBC 5 Live as a pundit when they interviewed new Grimsby manager Mike Newell. Ollie was surprisingly knowledgeable about GTFC back then and even mentioned a couple of players he liked to Mike Newell.


Peter Bore being one of them. Which is worrying.


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If true either triumph or disaster, but definitely not boring!!
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Quoted from HertsGTFC


And as we've found out on another thread can't get off his backside to travel a few miles from the East Midlands to watch his team on a Bank Holiday............. nothing worse than a mouthy plastic!  


How old are you, 12?  Is watching Grimsby your number one priority in life?  If so, get a grip and a life mate!  Jesus wept.


A bit rich a moronic Fentyista like you questioning someones age when you keep banging on about Wizards and pretending to be a Scunt.


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Don't know why the mods don't just feck him off. Adds nothing to the forum but antagonism.

Perhaps it may be more sensible to 'Block' my posts instead of crying to site administration about it?  

Thats what made Britain Great alright - if you don't like what someone says, cry to teacher to shut them up!  


It wasn't so long ago you were blocking my posts, then you couldn't help yourself Fentyista could you  

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Mate had been told a few days ago that Holloway had come up for talks last week.can't vouch for the veracity of that story


That would make the timing of JF’s recent piece of PR even more bizarre.


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I would be very happy with him, got contacts, got passion and says it as he see's it. Not sure the location will work for him?
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We can't afford him--don't want him--fk him---A Mr. N is coming
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I doubt it. He's been linked with every Championship, L1 & some L2 vacancies for the past 18 months and he's still not back in the game. I remember during his last sabatical from the game (12 months between leaving Leicester and joining Blackpool) he was on BBC 5 Live as a pundit when they interviewed new Grimsby manager Mike Newell. Ollie was surprisingly knowledgeable about GTFC back then and even mentioned a couple of players he liked to Mike Newell.


I remember that interview. I was so excited by the Newell appointment I was listening to every sports station going and remember it well. Holloway also mentioned that "North lad up front" so I don't think he knew too much about how poor we were!

On a brighter note, Holloway will have been to BP many times, and seen us in far better shape than we are now; he probably has seen BP rocking and might think if I could re-create something like that we might be able to do something with the club.

Well, it is Christmas and we can but dream. Any new manager would be good, but someone with the knowledge and personality of Hollway might be a good fit; sometimes you need a larger than life character to kick-start a club as we have known ourselves in the distant past.
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If Fenty wants any kudos back he should act now and get this man signed up ..
We've been screaming about getting a proven league manager who's not afraid to shake it up a bit and Holloway fits that's I'll..
Doubt money will come in to it, he said on sports talk he wants a job that challenges him and one he sees as a project...well, hello, GTFC offer him both these things!..
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The time to spend money and sort this mess out has been a long time coming. I firmly believe the only way we will beat relegation this year is due to the mess at Bury and Macclesfield, but this is a repeat of 2009/2010.

Fenty needs to be bold with this decision and get the right person in even if it stretches the budget slightly. We are playing better under AL and he will have a part to play in the back room team but he’s not the man for the job long term. We’ve scored one goal in what, 3 months? This cannot go on. Just before MJ was sacked we were saying ‘win our games in hand and we’re there or there abouts for a play off spot’ Jesus,  We’ve plummeted significantly since then.
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Oh yes please john.


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No chance on this earth will Ian Holloway end up here, things we need as a club, the club prepared to give the manager so why on earth would he come here, if he does I’ll run around Blundell park naked


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After watching Fenty’s YouTube interview the only conclusion I can draw is that the job is Limbrick’s I can only assume it hasn’t been officially announced due to results. But the language used in that interview doesn’t suggest that we’re looking elsewhere. I’d expect following today’s draw and goal that Limbrick will be announced shortly with the press release citing an improvement in playing style and attitude which we all know is complete balderdash but the club will expect we’ll not question.

As for Holloway I can’t see him being an option or rather I can’t see him thinking Grimsby is a viable option.
He must (quite rightly) see himself as a top-level or at least second tier manager. Not perennial league 2 strugglers. Even if he did fancy a challenge why grimsby? We’re underfunded, there’s no investment in the club, there’s no investment in the facilities (beyond a portacabin or 2) the club is up for sale which means the board you sign for might not  be the board you work for (although the actual likelihood of the club being sold is an altogether different depressing topic). Plus there’s a history of hiring and firing managers. Getting the sack at Grimsby would surely be the final nail in the coffin of Holloway’s managerial career.
It’s not like he’d be earning loads. It’s well documented the we see the 6 month rolling contract as a sound business proposition and it just doesn’t give the security someone like Holloway will be looking for.

It’d be great to appoint Holloway. I’m sure he’d do a good job for town and if not he’d at least be entertaining. But I don’t think it’s going to happen.

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In Limbrick we hope.


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After watching Fenty’s YouTube interview the only conclusion I can draw is that the job is Limbrick’s I can only assume it hasn’t been officially announced due to results. But the language used in that interview doesn’t suggest that we’re looking elsewhere. I’d expect following today’s draw and goal that Limbrick will be announced shortly with the press release citing an improvement in playing style and attitude which we all know is complete balderdash but the club will expect we’ll not question.

As for Holloway I can’t see him being an option or rather I can’t see him thinking Grimsby is a viable option.
He must (quite rightly) see himself as a top-level or at least second tier manager. Not perennial league 2 strugglers. Even if he did fancy a challenge why grimsby? We’re underfunded, there’s no investment in the club, there’s no investment in the facilities (beyond a portacabin or 2) the club is up for sale which means the board you sign for might not  be the board you work for (although the actual likelihood of the club being sold is an altogether different depressing topic). Plus there’s a history of hiring and firing managers. Getting the sack at Grimsby would surely be the final nail in the coffin of Holloway’s managerial career.
It’s not like he’d be earning loads. It’s well documented the we see the 6 month rolling contract as a sound business proposition and it just doesn’t give the security someone like Holloway will be looking for.

It’d be great to appoint Holloway. I’m sure he’d do a good job for town and if not he’d at least be entertaining. But I don’t think it’s going to happen.

...

In Limbrick we hope.


You lost all credibility once you said ‘perennial’.
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No chance on this earth will Ian Holloway end up here, things we need as a club, the club prepared to give the manager so why on earth would he come here, if he does I’ll run around Blundell park naked


Because he is a football man through and through, he hates not being involved in the day to day running of a club and he can't get a job elsewhere.

He knows what we could be like as he has seen it first hand in the past; he probably hates all non chairmen so that won't stop him.

We all know it is unlikely, but dreaming is the only thing we have got left.
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No chance on this earth will Ian Holloway end up here, things we need as a club, the club prepared to give the manager so why on earth would he come here, if he does I’ll run around Blundell park naked


Be careful, I remember a guy in Mcmenemys days said the same thing,  and he kept his word and did it.












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Because he is a football man through and through, he hates not being involved in the day to day running of a club and he can't get a job elsewhere.

He knows what we could be like as he has seen it first hand in the past; he probably hates all non chairmen so that won't stop him.

We all know it is unlikely, but dreaming is the only thing we have got left.


If he came to Town RH would be all over us like a rash, not sure if he’s got anything left in the tank but he’s great copy.


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No Gollster, it is to mark the one and a half decades you have sat below the Claret and Blue Wizards of Scunthorpe United Football Club in the Football Pyramid Final Standings.


Wizards? You'e a mid table league 2 side.

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Not top of the range Wizards, admittedly.  Gandalf the Grey perhaps, pre-reincarnation.


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No chance on this earth will Ian Holloway end up here, things we need as a club, the club prepared to give the manager so why on earth would he come here, if he does I’ll run around Blundell park naked




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Quoted from Stevie Cammack
Not top of the range Wizards, admittedly.  Gandalf the Grey perhaps, pre-reincarnation.


Radagast the Brown perhaps but definitely not Gandalf the Grey. Not a chance you boys would beat a Balrog when you can only just beat us.
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For Ollie it's 02:45 and the night club is emptying. The only girl (GTFC) left in the club are a right minger, but that's his only option...


I'll never forget this line he did 😂
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No chance on this earth will Ian Holloway end up here, things we need as a club, the club prepared to give the manager so why on earth would he come here, if he does I’ll run around Blundell park naked


A good job you didn't add "with a sausage hanging out of my bottom" Nobody would have believed you........


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If he came to Town RH would be all over us like a rash, not sure if he’s got anything left in the tank but he’s great copy.


Is he ?

As far as i recall he made one extraordinary comparison about a p1ss poor performance resembling pulling an ugly bird and from then on, he seemed to try harder and weirder with every interview to the point he is cringeworthy.

Somehow since then everyone seemed to think he was a football genius. From comments to date i doubt anyone could comment on his managerial credentials but everyone would be looking forward to how he would perform in press interviews.

Putting that aside,  I think we all have a good idea that there is one strong ego at the club already...pretty sure there isnt room for two so would be amazed if he was anything like in the frame.


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he won’t be coming here.
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Really hope this doesn't happen, if we needed a clown for a manager I'd interview someone from Russell's Circus.

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Really hope this doesn't happen, if we needed a clown for a manager I'd interview someone from Russell's Circus.

UTM


We've already had Russell's Circus - twice.

But I hope it does happen, for two reasons. Holloway is a motivator and that is something we have sadly lacked. Secondly it would be a statement of intent by the Board that they are not just going for the cheap option to chug along but want to see the side/club progress in an upwards direction.

Holloway is not perfect by any means, he will definitely not be the messiah. But he has been around, he has contacts, he has game experience and he knows what man management is about.



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Really hope this doesn't happen, if we needed a clown for a manager I'd interview someone from Russell's Circus.

UTM


Totally agreed better to save money and chug along scoring 1 goals in 7 , celebrating the occasional 0-0 draw, and having fun calculating how long ago it was when we last won a football match. It's the 3, yes, three, month anniversary tomorrow by the way.
Be stupid to appoint an experienced manager with a proven record of success
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Ian Holloway would be a real signal of intent and ambition. For those reasons, I do not expect him to be appointed.
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We have to appoint him now as I've already decided in my head that it would mean instant turnaround and guaranteed promotion
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He is on Quest Sunday night! Will he get from BP in time?


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Ian Holloway getting interviewd by RH would be worth his salary alone.

I just get the feeling he would rejuvenate the whole club and what we need.


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When IH took the Palace job, he indicated his desire to be near his family (in London) was part of his decision. He's since managed Millwall and QPR.
Seems unlikely he'd move here.

Which is a shame, because he's just the type this club needs.

From JF's video interview it seems obvious our non-chairman wants to appoint AL, and that's what I expect to happen.

I'm pretty relaxed either way (unusually): I think Holloway would be good...if he and JF can see eye-to-eye on what needs to be done. So maybe.
I also think AL may turn out to be good too, given more time. He's got JF onside already to judge from the video, even to the extent that he's saying
he'll be putting his hand in his pocket come January.
I might not be so relaxed if there were two relegation spots...  

I'd certainly pick Holloway over AL if I could choose either to be manager, but I very much doubt he'll be uprooting to come here.


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To be honest, Holloway as a manager wouldn't really be the choice I'd go for on a purely footballing basis.

Can interpret records however you want, Slade's record was decent if you looked it at coming here.  Oh Coventry and Charlton were both basket case clubs, look what he did at Orient... Holloway did a great job at Blackpool, that can't be overlooked and whilst incredibly naive I admired his approach when they were in the Premier League.  It was a suicidal approach but it was refreshing all the same.

At Palace he did get them up via the play-offs, you can't argue with the facts.  But when he took over they were top.  Dougie Freedman built that side. A side that had Wilf Zaha and Victor Moses on the wings, both absolutely unplayable at that level.  They ended up picking just 8 points from the final ten games of the normal season and literally fell over the line.

He was wildly unpopular at Millwall, whilst no doubt an element of that was his Palace connection but he failed to inspire by all accounts and his football was a bit drab.  Far from the free-flowing style he's renowned for.

At QPR I think he did an ok job, I think I'm right in saying he blooded a lot of younger lads and laid some good foundations for the future.  At Championship level you'll do well to get the time to do that over two years so either the owners had faith (which they lost when they went for Steve McLaren) or he was doing as expected under financial constraints, either way it's the best job of his more recent ones.

The point is though that his last success was with Palace, in 2013.  As above that's a bit fall over the line type of success, propped up by two guys who were head and shoulders above the rest of the division.   Is he really still in touch with the game?  I know a lot of people like his little soundbites but every time I think he comes across like an idiot.  Almost a bit Mike Bassett like in his approach to the game.  

That all said. this club needs something to inject a bit of enthusiasm into it.  For the record, I don't think Limbrick is doing a bad job.  He inherited a sack of excrement that was devoid of confidence, he's done his best to rebuild that back up try to install something of a footballing philosophy.  Slowly but surely we're starting to see that coming through, albeit with a real lack of quality and cutting edge in the side.  But Limbrick isn't going to put another 2,000 on the gate and get the Town buzzing, Holloway probably would....


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The guy's a tosser in the Lennie Lawrence mould and he'd splash the money everywhere with little return.

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Cant see it myself. but you never know .would be a hell of a drop for him, and he is used to working with  a lot better players.
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Personally I think it's not a job the suits IH.  He is use to having big budgets and cash to squander.  I think he would struggle at town.

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I would liken his time at Blackpool if he was to be appointed let alone want to come. A dysfunctional leader at the helm of a club with plenty of potential if the rudder could be worked.

Could Holloway, or any half decent manager work with our esteemed non chairman? Or is it the fact we have to take whatever we can get?

Whatever the answers are, this club is, once again looking to be in a sorry state of affairs that maybe getting a manager with Holloway's character and style is just the tonic that's needed


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Holloway has said he has been interviewed and wants the job... GIVE HIM IT !!!!!!!!
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Started getting all excited when I saw this, then came the mention of the stumbling block being money and  my heart sank.. No way that Fenty would shell out for a bit of quality when there'sa cheap ,easy option immediately available
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Lets hope Mr Fenty sticks his hand in his pocket and gets this one over the line.
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Leave repayment of loans alone for a couple of years and the job's done. Over to you JF.


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For christ sake John, just get this one done......


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I'm not at all convinced Holloway is the right man for GTFC but one thing for sure, he'll add a little sparkle to our humdrum football lives. Even if it's short lived, Town fans deserve a few weeks of excitement after the crap we've been served for the last few years
As others have said though, there's money involved and that makes it increasingly unlikely to happen. The telegraph article says they met a week ago and I suspect it would have happened by now if JSF really wanted it.
JSF must have been desperate for us to beat Macclesfield yesterday so he could give the job to AL, but even he must be smelling the coffee by this stage
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Pay him the money ffs
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I said it should be Holloway as soon as MJ left, and I was shocked at how many on here dismissed him as a joke. He’s been on Talksport a lot recently and he’s obviously well liked by Alan Brazil and the team, and he has quite clearly said publicly that he would consider ANY league club. I feel he has something to offer and will get a tune out of the current squad. I don’t see what we have to lose. It’s a much smaller risk than giving it to Limbrick.
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Personally would like this to happen but cannot see the funds actually be available or even will they get on 🙈 Ian's calls a spade a spade doesn't he? If so will Fenty like his no nonsense approach?

Too many questions than answers on this one surely????
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If he wants it that much and is 'excited' about the project as has been reported, then salary won't be an issue.


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Apparently he wants 150k but JF is offering 120k according to those on twitter.  He said he wants the Job just the financial aspect that needs sorting.

Normally the wage is detailed in the advertisement but I agree with others IH is not what JF wants.


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As a player, playing for a manager that has the credentials and experience of managing at the highest level, must give you a bit of extra lead in your pencil.


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Apparently he wants 150k but JF is offering 120k according to those on twitter.  He said he wants the Job just the financial aspect that needs sorting.

Normally the wage is detailed in the advertisement but I agree with others IH is not what JF wants.


Thats from that DannBraithwaite on twitter. A known Liar
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If that was true, would that mean an end to the 6 month rolling contract...  
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Do the maths JF, you'll probably get a return on the first couple of home gates. If Holloway were to come, and do a similar PR job like McMenemy the money won't be an issue, the crowds will come. A club starved of genuine attention now has the genuine opportunity to attract it again. I won't hold my breath though....


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very interesting
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If it can be done, appoint him. No brainer at all.
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Ian Holloway's Black and White army.


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I’m sure Holloway isn’t skint but equally, he’ll have a value and an idea in his head of what he’s prepared to accept...surely it’ll need to match what he earns from radio and TV?

Aren’t his children deaf? That could be part of his decision given there is a fantastic deaf school not far from Grimsby, assuming they’re school age that could impact his decision.


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Thats from that DannBraithwaite on twitter. A known Liar


Ah i see.

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Do the maths JF, you'll probably get a return on the first couple of home gates. If Holloway were to come, and do a similar PR job like McMenemy the money won't be an issue, the crowds will come. A club starved of genuine attention now has the genuine opportunity to attract it again. I won't hold my breath though....


Exactly even if he puts 1000 on the first gate alone, then that's the shortfall almost covered. Course we don't know the quality of the Twitter info. He might be looking for 250k for all we know
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Just pay him FFS,  the only way Limpdicks go is down, Holloway is just the shot of viagra we need
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Thats from that DannBraithwaite on twitter. A known Liar


I never understood why Lloyd Griffith used to slag off The Fishy. There's far more crackpots on Twitter!


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Well I'm sure this will do limbricks confidence the world if f@cking good!!....
Must know in hearts of hearts he cannot compete with a name like Ian Holloway, just hope if this does come off that limbrick is either kept as his number 2 or gets a rousing send off by the black n white faithful...
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Well I'm sure this will do limbricks confidence the world if f@cking good!!....
Must know in hearts of hearts he cannot compete with a name like Ian Holloway, just hope if this does come off that limbrick is either kept as his number 2 or gets a rousing send off by the black n white faithful...


Let’s face it Limbrick can’t get any shitter can he?


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Well I'm sure this will do limbricks confidence the world if f@cking good!!....
Must know in hearts of hearts he cannot compete with a name like Ian Holloway, just hope if this does come off that limbrick is either kept as his number 2 or gets a rousing send off by the black n white faithful...


What has Limbrick done to deserve any of that? The quicker he goes the better then maybe we can have a manger that can get a win out of our squad...
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Why interview someone when you know they won't be cheap if you have no intention to give him the job.
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Quoted from gaz57
Why interview someone when you know they won't be cheap if you have no intention to give him the job.


Didn't that happen to Slade then he gave the job to Woodsy.


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Why interview someone when you know they won't be cheap if you have no intention to give him the job.


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What has Limbrick done to deserve any of that? The quicker he goes the better then maybe we can have a manger that can get a win out of our squad...


Tell you what he's done, he put square pegs back in square holes, got the team into sort of shape and not f@cked about with it...plus he's also got some form of confidence back into them that Jolley had kicked the life out of. ..
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because the board can turn round in the future and say " we interviewed him/ offered him the job but he turned it down "



This in spades and it might just garner some interest from cheaper options


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There’s no doubt that Holloway’s quirky, cheeky chappie image has given him a bigger profile than he’d otherwise have, however his achievements in management shouldn’t be overlooked.

He’s won promotion three times, twice to the Premier League including once with a massively unfancied Blackpool side under crackpot ownership (even if they hadn’t gone fully rogue at that point). You simply don’t do that without a modicum of managerial talent.

Aside from those achievements, his time at Plymouth was also very well regarded. His most recent appointments at Champiobship clubs Millwall and QPR are probably best described as unspectacular, but they weren’t disastrous.

Over the course of his career his win % averages out at around 36%, including two goes in the Premier League where win percentages are always likely to be on the low side. To give that some context, Paul Hurst’s win % here was around 50%, but that includes four successive play-off finishes in the non-league. I believe he’d improve on his last three predecessors.

There’s probably no doubt that of all realistic options, Holloway is the most decorated and highest profile. That doesn’t mean much in terms of influencing future accomplishments but it probably does at least help in terms of player recruitment. It gives players a reason to select Town as their employer. At the minute there’s very little in our favour - geography, money and facilities are almost all going to work against us when competing with the vast majority of other League Two sides.

At the outset, the list of names being bandied about were largely a mix of either unproven young managers or experienced, out of work journeymen. Holloway falls very much towards the latter end, but if (and for me it remains a big if) he were to end up here I’d be confident that he’d arrive full of hunger and a desire to achieve. Why else take it? Financially I doubt he needs it - he already has gainful employment in cushy TV and radio roles.

It would also strongly suggest that we’d made commitments in terms of investment in the squad and club infrastructure. Again, if not, why come?

In terms of lifting the club and community out of what seems like a never ending malaise, his character and general approach would work well for me. Of course he’s well media trained - it’s his job at this moment in time - but I do think he would ‘get’ Grimsby Town FC. That only carries you so far, and people have little time for attempts at humour or a charm offensive when you’re losing (as Marcus Bignot soon found out) but in the short-term at least Holloway’s appointment would lift people and that can’t be a bad thing.

Would it work out? Who the fúck knows? Will Ancelotti work at Everton? Arteta at Arsenal? Even at the top level where money is plentiful there are no guarantees, even less so in the basement. But if your only other option is a man whose football league record to date extends to a point and a goal every six games, it has to be the best way forward. Doesn’t it?



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There’s no doubt that Holloway’s quirky, cheeky chappie image has given him a bigger profile than he’d otherwise have, however his achievements in management shouldn’t be overlooked.

He’s won promotion three times, twice to the Premier League including once with a massively unfancied Blackpool side under crackpot ownership (even if they hadn’t gone fully rogue at that point). You simply don’t do that without a modicum of managerial talent.

Aside from those achievements, his time at Plymouth was also very well regarded. His most recent appointments at Champiobship clubs Millwall and QPR are probably best described as unspectacular, but they weren’t disastrous.

Over the course of his career his win % averages out at around 36%, including two goes in the Premier League where win percentages are always likely to be on the low side. To give that some context, Paul Hurst’s win % here was around 50%, but that includes four successive play-off finishes in the non-league. I believe he’d improve on his last three predecessors.

There’s probably no doubt that of all realistic options, Holloway is the most decorated and highest profile. That doesn’t mean much in terms of influencing future accomplishments but it probably does at least help in terms of player recruitment. It gives players a reason to select Town as their employer. At the minute there’s very little in our favour - geography, money and facilities are almost all going to work against us when competing with the vast majority of other League Two sides.

At the outset, the list of names being bandied about were largely a mix of either unproven young managers or experienced, out of work journeymen. Holloway falls very much towards the latter end, but if (and for me it remains a big if) he were to end up here I’d be confident that he’d arrive full of hunger and a desire to achieve. Why else take it? Financially I doubt he needs it - he already has gainful employment in cushy TV and radio roles.

It would also strongly suggest that we’d made commitments in terms of investment in the squad and club infrastructure. Again, if not, why come?

In terms of lifting the club and community out of what seems like a never ending malaise, his character and general approach would work well for me. Of course he’s well media trained - it’s his job at this moment in time - but I do think he would ‘get’ Grimsby Town FC. That only carries you so far, and people have little time for attempts at humour or a charm offensive when you’re losing (as Marcus Bignot soon found out) but in the short-term at least Holloway’s appointment would lift people and that can’t be a bad thing.

Would it work out? Who the fúck knows? Will Ancelotti work at Everton? Arteta at Arsenal? Even at the top level where money is plentiful there are no guarantees, even less so in the basement. But if your only other option is a man whose football league record to date extends to a point and a goal every six games, it has to be the best way forward. Doesn’t it?



I lack so much faith in our current leadership that I just can’t believe JF could land this.


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Still unsure on the Holloway love in on here, like watching him on TV.. his record in the past is impressive tho recent history not so great. How come he's been out of work 18 months?
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I lack so much faith in our current leadership that I just can’t believe JF could land this.


Me too, and I don't think there is a will to land what would be a great coup for the club. He clearly wants to give the job to Anthony Limbrick which I find strange given his points and goals total while in the caretaker role. If Holloway somehow wants the job, it is a no brainer. This is a good club on it's knees, we need a lift. Limbrick won't do that, in fact attendances have been shocking. 2500 on a warm for the time of year Tuesday night not so long ago, not even 500 away on Boxing day for a localish game.

Get Holloway in and put thousands on the gate. Nothing against AL, but Holloway is simply a much better option for all sorts of reasons.
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Me too, and I don't think there is a will to land what would be a great coup for the club. He clearly wants to give the job to Anthony Limbrick which I find strange given his points and goals total while in the caretaker role. If Holloway somehow wants the job, it is a no brainer. This is a good club on it's knees, we need a lift. Limbrick won't do that, in fact attendances have been shocking. 2500 on a warm for the time of year Tuesday night not so long ago, not even 500 away on Boxing day for a localish game.

Get Holloway in and put thousands on the gate. Nothing against AL, but Holloway is simply a much better option for all sorts of reasons.


You’re completely right. I’m pulling figures out of the air, but if appointing Holloway would cost say £100k per year more versus Limbrick, you would cover the difference with roughly an additional 250 bums of seats per game.

Yeah, of course there are no guarantees but this is precisely the kind of calculated gamble we’ve not been very good at, or simply too risk averse to take at all.

I’m sure you could underwrite much of that risk by going with a low basic salary supplemented by really attractive performance bonuses, perhaps even linked to attendances. I don’t know for certain that this sort of thing isn’t already part of managers’ contracts here, but judging by the rudimentary way we approach things like season ticket incentives, I’d be surprised.


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We have got 2 home games coming up,

So that means Anthony has 2 games to keep the job.

I would have Holloway in a heartbeat but also want Limbrick to succeed ,

Maybe we could have them both,

Fenty will not pay the required salary so lets hope AL  can turns things round.


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We have got 2 home games coming up,

So that means Anthony has 2 games to keep the job.

I would have Holloway in a heartbeat but also want Limbrick to succeed ,

Maybe we could have them both,

Fenty will not pay the required salary so lets hope AL  can turns things round.


Fully agree Pete.

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Poojah has done it again - writing a very reasonable article that convinces me that Holloway may be the one for the JOB.
I have wanted Limbrick to succeed for many reasons (points for GTFC for one, and the fact that he is a guy that it is easy to like), but as many on here have said: it`s a result-based business.

What convinces me is an argument said so eloquently in the text from Poojah: "There’s probably no doubt that of all realistic options, Holloway is the most decorated and highest profile. That doesn’t mean much in terms of influencing future accomplishments but it probably does at least help in terms of player recruitment. It gives players a reason to select Town as their employer."

And yes, I agree - We would raise our profile in the media, and we probably would get more bums on seats. And most important: when a player chooses a club, provided that the wages isn`t too far off his expectations... who wouldn`t like to be a part of a set-up with a well-known manager that have experience from the highest level of football? One who have been involved in several promotions? You should never underestimate the pulling power of a manager with a "name".

So, Mr. Poojah, you have sold me on this idea now - but everything must be Fenty`s decision - and I guess it`s not an easy one as there are no guarantees in football.
Let`s all hope it turns out for the best in the end!

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There’s no doubt that Holloway’s quirky, cheeky chappie image has given him a bigger profile than he’d otherwise have, however his achievements in management shouldn’t be overlooked.

He’s won promotion three times, twice to the Premier League including once with a massively unfancied Blackpool side under crackpot ownership (even if they hadn’t gone fully rogue at that point). You simply don’t do that without a modicum of managerial talent.

Aside from those achievements, his time at Plymouth was also very well regarded. His most recent appointments at Champiobship clubs Millwall and QPR are probably best described as unspectacular, but they weren’t disastrous.

Over the course of his career his win % averages out at around 36%, including two goes in the Premier League where win percentages are always likely to be on the low side. To give that some context, Paul Hurst’s win % here was around 50%, but that includes four successive play-off finishes in the non-league. I believe he’d improve on his last three predecessors.

There’s probably no doubt that of all realistic options, Holloway is the most decorated and highest profile. That doesn’t mean much in terms of influencing future accomplishments but it probably does at least help in terms of player recruitment. It gives players a reason to select Town as their employer. At the minute there’s very little in our favour - geography, money and facilities are almost all going to work against us when competing with the vast majority of other League Two sides.

At the outset, the list of names being bandied about were largely a mix of either unproven young managers or experienced, out of work journeymen. Holloway falls very much towards the latter end, but if (and for me it remains a big if) he were to end up here I’d be confident that he’d arrive full of hunger and a desire to achieve. Why else take it? Financially I doubt he needs it - he already has gainful employment in cushy TV and radio roles.

It would also strongly suggest that we’d made commitments in terms of investment in the squad and club infrastructure. Again, if not, why come?

In terms of lifting the club and community out of what seems like a never ending malaise, his character and general approach would work well for me. Of course he’s well media trained - it’s his job at this moment in time - but I do think he would ‘get’ Grimsby Town FC. That only carries you so far, and people have little time for attempts at humour or a charm offensive when you’re losing (as Marcus Bignot soon found out) but in the short-term at least Holloway’s appointment would lift people and that can’t be a bad thing.

Would it work out? Who the fúck knows? Will Ancelotti work at Everton? Arteta at Arsenal? Even at the top level where money is plentiful there are no guarantees, even less so in the basement. But if your only other option is a man whose football league record to date extends to a point and a goal every six games, it has to be the best way forward. Doesn’t it?



I can only echo geir.spot on Poojah just get the man in.We are heading for relegation anyway, how much worse can he do?
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Before we all get excited about whether Fenty would give him the job or whether Holloway would be daft or hard up enough to take it how sure are we he's even applied?

There's desperate to get back into management and there's desperate enough to manage Grimsby Town, big difference

Can't see it myself


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Before we all get excited about whether Fenty would give him the job or whether Holloway would be daft or hard up enough to take it how sure are we he's even applied?

There's desperate to get back into management and there's desperate enough to manage Grimsby Town, big difference

Can't see it myself


It's been confirmed he had positive talks with the club last week Swin.
Time to get off that bench of negativity matey and hope this is for once of a ray of light that Fenty needs to try and turn the tide of apathy and distrust..
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You’re completely right. I’m pulling figures out of the air, but if appointing Holloway would cost say £100k per year more versus Limbrick, you would cover the difference with roughly an additional 250 bums of seats per game.

Yeah, of course there are no guarantees but this is precisely the kind of calculated gamble we’ve not been very good at, or simply too risk averse to take at all.

I’m sure you could underwrite much of that risk by going with a low basic salary supplemented by really attractive performance bonuses, perhaps even linked to attendances. I don’t know for certain that this sort of thing isn’t already part of managers’ contracts here, but judging by the rudimentary way we approach things like season ticket incentives, I’d be surprised.


It's a very basic cost benefits analysis that any competent business ought to be be making time and time again with their business model. Next time someone at BP reads Cost Benefits Analysis for Idiots please read the chapter about employing competent CEOs as well. Is it too much to ask?



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Me too, and I don't think there is a will to land what would be a great coup for the club. He clearly wants to give the job to Anthony Limbrick which I find strange given his points and goals total while in the caretaker role. If Holloway somehow wants the job, it is a no brainer. This is a good club on it's knees, we need a lift. Limbrick won't do that, in fact attendances have been shocking. 2500 on a warm for the time of year Tuesday night not so long ago, not even 500 away on Boxing day for a localish game.

Get Holloway in and put thousands on the gate. Nothing against AL, but Holloway is simply a much better option for all sorts of reasons.


Agree with you here fella.


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Holloway as gtfc manager would he a real real coup for the club.

If we manage to pull it off then mr fenty deserves all the credit in the world, we can really get behind the club.

Ian Holloway as our manager would be massive.


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Why interview someone when you know they won't be cheap if you have no intention to give him the job.


If he has applied for the job then I assume he does not expect a huge salary.

As a manager I have interviewed some who may be expecting more than we could afford, it was a see if they would accept a smaller salary, if they wouldn't they didn't get the job if they said they would it is still a balancing act to see if they would stay in the post if offered.

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Honestly cannot see it happening, I believe Mr Fenty hoped ML would win a couple of the games so far, so that he could appoint him, but as the results were not good it has meant he  has had to  delay it, Holloway is just a rumour conjured up from somewhere that Mr Fenty is happy to let run until he can announce LM.
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Honestly cannot see it happening, I believe Mr Fenty hoped ML would win a couple of the games so far, so that he could appoint him, but as the results were not good it has meant he  has had to  delay it, Holloway is just a rumour conjured up from somewhere that Mr Fenty is happy to let run until he can announce LM.


Who the bleeding hell is ML and is he related to LM....
It's been confirmed Holloway has spoken to the club...so afraid it's not the old GTFC rumour mill this one
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I can't get my head round why he would want to uproot his family to a town 4 hours away for 150k. He's never been further than leicester. Edit: Ok he has  


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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I can't get my head round why he would want to uproot his family to a town 4 hours away for 150k. He's never been further than leicester


Blackpool? He took his chickens to Blackpool!
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So he did😂 things are looking brighter already.
Still I think john will have to be a little more accomadating on the contract terms. Chickens at BP? As opposed to turkeys


Christ you all wanted him sacked a few months ago. 6th place finish and he's now the messiah and can do no wrong  
Update:  I think I've got this right - He was the messiah. He then wasn't. He then was again. Then it turned out he actually wasnt. He turned into one big huge messiah again. Now he's not actually the messiah we thought he was . Now I'm hoping he rises again quickly
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Oops, senior moment or too much Christmas juice.


As every year passes I'm having more of those me old matey...plus copious amounts of red wine doesn't help either...😂😂
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Holloway as gtfc manager would he a real real coup for the club.

If we manage to pull it off then mr fenty deserves all the credit in the world, we can really get behind the club.

Ian Holloway as our manager would be massive.


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The one thing Holloway loves is getting away in his camper can...maybe we could offer him a 3 year free pitch at the fitties as part of the deal??...
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Apparently he wants 150k but JF is offering 120k

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Blackpool? He took his chickens to Blackpool!


That's not all sounds like fenty would have to find him a farm.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sp.....ays-chicken-run.html
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That's not all sounds like fenty would have to find him a farm.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sp.....ays-chicken-run.html

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£150k a year? Jesus I'm on exactly 1/10 of that.

Seriously though, I'd love him here and if it is literally financial reasons why wee haven't announced him yet then I say speak out and let the fans know, you never know we may do an 'operation good lookin bird but take an ugly one from time to time'
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He could well be the new Mcmenemy and start something special. It could be the ideal match for both parties. If it does happen I hope Limbrick stays on .
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He past it
Not for us
But we do need someone Asap
Come on Town!
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Under current curcumstances of the utterly dreadful run with the current managerial setup, gotta be worth the risk of bringing IH in. We can't get any worse results wise anyway
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I suspect we were nothing more than a bargaining chip in his negotiations with Bristol Rovers. I also suspect neither party had any serious intention of completing this deal and the story is being allowed to snowball to make it look like we’re ambitious. There’ll be a report that “we tried our best” and Holloway will carry the can for asking for too much money. In the meantime Limbrick will have taken 3 points from either Crawley or more likely Salford and he’ll get to the end of the season.
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I suspect we were nothing more than a bargaining chip in his negotiations with Bristol Rovers. I also suspect neither party had any serious intention of completing this deal and the story is being allowed to snowball to make it look like we’re ambitious. There’ll be a report that “we tried our best” and Holloway will carry the can for asking for too much money. In the meantime Limbrick will have taken 3 points from either Crawley or more likely Salford and he’ll get to the end of the season.


For as much as that makes perfect sense and is the "norm" for the GTFC board, I believe IH spoke to the club after the Bristol Rovers job had already gone.
If you see the GTFC job as a project, ie new stadium, investment, money, it would look pretty attractive but the problem being is, as we all know, the "project" is nothing more than another false dawn and if IH is pursuaded to come here he'll soon realise he's been sold pup and be back down the M5 in his motorhome..
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So.....is Holloway a distinct possibility or, as we are usually conditioned by the GTFC Board, outside of our price range by £50 a week?

John has to look at this as an opportunity to right some of his wrongs and push the boat out to get this over the line. It would be an enormous coup for the Club and would also play into the selling aspect any potential Takeover with someone with great credibility already in place.

If you’ve interviewed him John, it would appear that the Majority would like to see him appointed too. Is now the time to speculate just a little bit?
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Haven't seen folks this excited about a manager since Mike Newell.  
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Haven't seen folks this excited about a manager since Mike Newell.  


Yes. Just because we’ve heard of them doesn’t mean they’ll do any good. I’m not sure Holloway is the answer to our current predicament although Limbrick has tried and has proven that he isn’t.
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I suspect we were nothing more than a bargaining chip in his negotiations with Bristol Rovers. I also suspect neither party had any serious intention of completing this deal and the story is being allowed to snowball to make it look like we’re ambitious. There’ll be a report that “we tried our best” and Holloway will carry the can for asking for too much money. In the meantime Limbrick will have taken 3 points from either Crawley or more likely Salford and he’ll get to the end of the season.


This. Exactly.

I don’t think there is any real interest from either party for this deal.

The budget both for the managers salary and for player acquisition isn’t big enough for Holloway and with the club being up for sale I can’t see Fenty wanting to put any more in to get a name in the managers seat.

The story much like the Sol Campbell one last time we were manager less does benefit both parties.

For Holloway it gets his name mentioned and he’s in peoples minds again as a manager and not just a pundit. It’s almost reminding those in football that he is a manager and available.

For Grimsby it’s a statement of intent. We can say we looked at all candidates and that we tried to get a name in but we couldn’t get it over the line or we couldn’t get our ducks in a row or whatever. Or even that we decided that Limbrick was the cheaper preferred option due to his knowledge of the club, his ability to lift a cloud and the improved performances (or some other rubbish). The Holloway story also removes some of the pressure off Fenty. By having this out there it looks as though we’re actually considering what is best for the club rather than what is the bare minimum required.

I remain convinced that we’ll give Limbrick the job, will sell Max Wright and Mattie Pollock for £4.20 and a bag of footballs in January and replace them with a couple of completely underwhelming loan signings or journeymen and limp into a relegation battle come the end of the season.

Still, at least we’ve got a nice portacabin eh?


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The thing is with this story is this

1. The club HAVE interviewed him. They would be aware of his modus operandi before doing so.

2. There seems to be precious little other news about possible contenders for the job.

3. If they now don't say "It's yours, Ian" they'll leave themselves wide open to accusations of not acting in the best interests of the club, perferring instead to take money out rather than investing in.

4. I understand that Macclesfield are in financial trouble, and Sol Campbell's wages might play a very small part in that (£180k) but their board took the view last season that they needed somebody with something to keep them up. He did that. Why would we settle for less?


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Haven't seen folks this excited about a manager since Mike Newell.  


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Spoken to a QPR supporting mate about Holloway.

To summarise, excellent man manager, players would run through walls for him and some that were not in the picture before he got there turned into the better players under him. Passion, passion, passion.

Sometimes got found out tactically but in championship and thinks would be a really good option at our level. Football style was mixed but mainly decent quality played at good pace.

Main negative (and this would not go down well with a lot of people) is that he had a tendency to play players out of their best positions. Think we might have heard that before!

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Quoted from jock dock tower
The thing is with this story is this

1. The club HAVE interviewed him. They would be aware of his modus operandi before doing so.

2. There seems to be precious little other news about possible contenders for the job.

3. If they now don't say "It's yours, Ian" they'll leave themselves wide open to accusations of not acting in the best interests of the club, perferring instead to take money out rather than investing in.

4. I understand that Macclesfield are in financial trouble, and Sol Campbell's wages might play a very small part in that (£180k) but their board took the view last season that they needed somebody with something to keep them up. He did that. Why would we settle for less?


1. I think you are giving our board too much credit there.
2. The club have all but stated AL is the man, reinforced by the trust statement. If he gets 4 points from the next two games or score draws he will cement the position.
3. As that is already their known position then what difference would one more example make ?
4. We actually pay bills, so if we hired Holloway or any other high profiler we can expect to actually pay the bill...which we dont have the funds for....increasing the burdon on you know who.




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Haven't seen folks this excited about a manager since Mike Newell.  


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This. Exactly.

I don’t think there is any real interest from either party for this deal.

The budget both for the managers salary and for player acquisition isn’t big enough for Holloway and with the club being up for sale I can’t see Fenty wanting to put any more in to get a name in the managers seat.

The story much like the Sol Campbell one last time we were manager less does benefit both parties.

For Holloway it gets his name mentioned and he’s in peoples minds again as a manager and not just a pundit. It’s almost reminding those in football that he is a manager and available.

For Grimsby it’s a statement of intent. We can say we looked at all candidates and that we tried to get a name in but we couldn’t get it over the line or we couldn’t get our ducks in a row or whatever. Or even that we decided that Limbrick was the cheaper preferred option due to his knowledge of the club, his ability to lift a cloud and the improved performances (or some other rubbish). The Holloway story also removes some of the pressure off Fenty. By having this out there it looks as though we’re actually considering what is best for the club rather than what is the bare minimum required.

I remain convinced that we’ll give Limbrick the job, will sell Max Wright and Mattie Pollock for £4.20 and a bag of footballs in January and replace them with a couple of completely underwhelming loan signings or journeymen and limp into a relegation battle come the end of the season.

Still, at least we’ve got a nice portacabin eh?


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It can be summed up in one word...………….. AMBITION.     Weve either got it, or we haven't, I fear the latter .
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It's been confirmed he had positive talks with the club last week Swin.
Time to get off that bench of negativity matey and hope this is for once of a ray of light that Fenty needs to try and turn the tide of apathy and distrust..


I was all excited and completely positive about Newell - say no flipping more!

At least Holloway has managed more than a Swedish subbuteo team and a bunch of bank employees

Just can't understand why for the life of me GTFC would appeal to him, not saying I'm not in favour but the Fishy is doing it again getting all excited and pushing one particular name forward

I'm still convinced Fenty appointed Jolley partly because of Fishy pressure and the tide of apathy and distrust you mention was turned at that point - look where it got us!


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IMO it just another con to try and get folk back interested and through the gates just like pre swason all flannel.. there is no way fenty will pay any where near what IH will want , and all i can see is them clashing all the time. Remember this is not GTFC its JSFFC, And he must be in charge and obayed
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I was all excited and completely positive about Newell - say no flipping more!

At least he has managed more than a Swedish subbuteo team and a bunch of bank employees

Just can't understand why for the life of me GTFC would appeal to him, not saying I'm not in favour but the Fishy is doing it again getting all excited and pushing one particular name forward

I'm still convinced Fenty appointed Jolley partly because of Fishy pressure and the tide of apathy and distrust you mention was turned at that point - look where it got us!


Jolley got the job simply because there was no-one else. That huge list of quality applicants JF quoted at the time melted away just as it has this time. In the end we are left with someone that no-one else would give house room to. I'm with you in wanting something better but better costs money. The Fishy may be pushing one name and that may well be because there are only two names and one is already here.



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My thoughts exactly Darren, especially where JF and managerial appointments are concerned!



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On reflection the question would be how much more can he get out of this group as in reality there isn’t any cash to bring in any quality above functional L2 level, then again adding a bit of “functional” might help.


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As  someone who has run a successful business, and is therefore used to success, I always find myself asking why JF hasn't replicated that success at Blundell Park, as others in similar positions have done at other clubs.

I well remember the season 2008-09 when both Bournemouth and Rotherham managed to overturn 17 point deductions and finish above us. Luton couldn't make up the 30 point deduction and they got relegated, otherwise we'd have been playing non league football a season earlier.

The difference is startling between the three clubs. Bournemouth got promotion the same season we were relegated, and haven't looked back. They've obviously had somebody good at the helm, probably with a board of directors also wanting success. Rotherham made the play offs, but had to wait for their promotion to the First Division and then the Championship. The difference to me has to be in the day to day running of the club, the decisions taken (or not as the case may be) and the differing strategies for each club. We have been content to be (a) languishing in the non league game for too long (b) breaking up the successful team that we had in getting us promotion and replacing them with mainly second rate replacements , and (c) seemingly happy to totally underperform at the very basement of the Football League.

How can three clubs in 2008-09, all facing relegation to non league football, see two clubs out perform the following season (and subsequent ones) and the other slide into almost total obscurity and apathy? It's not necessarily the manager's problem, because the same person appointed all of them. It's the fact that the right manager wasn't found in the first instance, probably because of the lack of any foresight to take the club forward, hoping it could all be done on the cheap. Now we have the chance to maybe do something that could galvanise, the players, the club, the support and the town. If we don't do so,  it will not be because of any demands Holloway makes, but because of the same old dogged insistence of doing things the wrong way.


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I can just envisage what how interview went ,

JF,   Well Ian what do you think now you have seen our training ground and plans for the new stadium ?

IH     Impressed with the plans John maybe we could include a new training ground at the same time.

JF.  That would depend on what league you could get us up to. Now what would you like from us ?

IH    A   three / four year contract at £150,000  pa would be my minimum.

JF    Well a 6 month rolling contract at £75,000 pa  is the best I can offer,

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Well I for one want it to happen. Think it would get us all interested again and bring the buzz back! Just my opinion for you all 😂
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C'mon JSF...for once do the right thing, don't penny punch, don't be frugel....speculate to accumulate, get the fans back on board, get the buzz of match days back....and some really interesting post match interviews ...it's yours for the taking.  
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. Think it would get us all interested again and bring the buzz back!


I'm sure you are right in that.

Appointing Holloway would have an amazing effect amongst the fans but I am not at all sure whether, given what he has to work with, he could turn things around results-wise which IMO is the most important part.

Personally I'd take boring hoofball 1-0 wins over interesting and possibly exciting football resulting in narrow defeats any day.

Whoever gets the job only a top 12 finish will do.



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I'm sure you are right in that.

Appointing Holloway would have an amazing effect amongst the fans but I am not at all sure whether, given what he has to work with, he could turn things around results-wise which IMO is the most important part.

Personally I'd take boring hoofball 1-0 wins over interesting and possibly exciting football resulting in narrow defeats any day.

Whoever gets the job only a top 12 finish will do.



Fact is though, that's the kind of mentality that has pervaded at BP for donkey's years - a top half finish in the bottom league of the EFL? FFS, we are Town and we deserve better, especially the diehards that are to be found at all corners of the country cheering the teamm on. We HAVE to aim for promotion, nothing less, and nothing less is good enough -, otherwise it gives JF and the board yet another excuse to philibuster.


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Fact is though, that's the kind of mentality that has pervaded at BP for donkey's years - a top half finish in the bottom league of the EFL? FFS, we are Town and we deserve better, especially the diehards that are to be found at all corners of the country cheering the teamm on. We HAVE to aim for promotion, nothing less, and nothing less is good enough -, otherwise it gives JF and the board yet another excuse to philibuster.


We can aim as much as we like but the manager hasn't been born who is going to get the current lot promoted and I wasn't talking about this season anyway  - please read the post I was replying to before you criticise - 12th will do this season

The discussion was not how Holloway would take us to the Premier League or even League 1, merely that simply appointing him would get the fans interested again and bring a buzz back to BP which I agree with but how long will the 'feel good factor' last with our fickle fans

For my part I don't give a excrement if the football is entertaining or not frankly, the result is more important but many when moaning about the Conference (despite our win ratio) seem think entertainment is the key factor



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Fact is though, that's the kind of mentality that has pervaded at BP for donkey's years - a top half finish in the bottom league of the EFL? FFS, we are Town and we deserve better, especially the diehards that are to be found at all corners of the country cheering the teamm on. We HAVE to aim for promotion, nothing less, and nothing less is good enough -, otherwise it gives JF and the board yet another excuse to philibuster.


Totally agree with you and Swin but as soon as we say such heresies back come the “realists” with “we are where we are” and “stop living in the past” and all the rest of it. We have to start somewhere with a climb back to respectability and we need to start with a bang, a signing that brings another thousand on the gate would do nicely.



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I can't stand Holloway - think he's thick as intercourse and full of excrement
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Riveting analysis.
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Sadly I have to agree, in fact he clearly isn't the sharpest knife in the box if he agrees to come to BP however he has the experience which Jolley sadly lacked, he has had success previously which Jolley also sadly lacked, he has the contacts which Jolley appeared to have but didn't and he can tell RH to intercourse off and they won't understand a word he's saying. I quite like his appearances on Talksport tho

If he is offered the job it proves we are desperate and if he accepts he is even more desperate,

Apart from that good luck to the fella and I reserve judgement until we can see what he can do (hope he hasn't bullshitted and promised too much that's all)



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a signing that brings another thousand on the gate would do nicely.



Sadly not happened since the great Sir Matt came back to BP



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Quoted from Ipswin


Sadly not happened since the great Sir Matt came back to BP



True.
Apart from Bonetti,put more than that on the gate.



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Well all of my great hopes for gtfc have been shattered in the last few years. I'd now like a team I could just be proud to say I support. Maybe that means one that it is not locked in annual battle to stay in league 2 or is generally 66/1 for promotion at the start of every season.
I've been a moderate Fenty supporter in years gone by, but I now know nothing will change until he's got his last 20 pence back an then sells. Remember we're dealing with a man who looks back on 6 years of conference football as a success, that's why we're always going to struggle while he's in charge
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Think Joe Waters did as well?


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Think tomorrow could have a bigger impact than most would think...
We lose and limbrick could well be replaced by Holloway and he's put in place before January 1st, we win and Holloway will be told we couldn't afford him and limbrick gets the job on the usual 6 month rolling contract..
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We may get away with avoiding relegation this season due to Bury but going on the last 2/3 seasons we could be down next season, and looking at the conference league table tonight there are both Wrexham and Chesterfield in that relegation zone heading towards complete oblivion, and my concern is that we could be joining them.
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Quoted from Gaffer58
We may get away with avoiding relegation this season due to Bury but going on the last 2/3 seasons we could be down next season, and looking at the conference league table tonight there are both Wrexham and Chesterfield in that relegation zone heading towards complete oblivion, and my concern is that we could be joining them.


Wrexham aren’t in the relegation zone. Only 3 going down because of Bury.
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Sadly I have to agree, in fact he clearly isn't the sharpest knife in the box if he agrees to come to BP however he has the experience which Jolley sadly lacked, he has had success previously which Jolley also sadly lacked, he has the contacts which Jolley appeared to have but didn't and he can tell RH to intercourse off and they won't understand a word he's saying. I quite like his appearances on Talksport tho

If he is offered the job it proves we are desperate and if he accepts he is even more desperate,

Apart from that good luck to the fella and I reserve judgement until we can see what he can do (hope he hasn't bullshitted and promised too much that's all)



I noticed today how different Watford were under their new manager, old school Nigel Pearson. Their 10 man win was about motivation and character. That is the sort of impact I would hope someone like Holloway would have.



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Think tomorrow could have a bigger impact than most would think...
We lose and limbrick could well be replaced by Holloway and he's put in place before January 1st, we win and Holloway will be told we couldn't afford him and limbrick gets the job on the usual 6 month rolling contract..

We'll draw and that'll solve nothing  



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Wrexham aren’t in the relegation zone. Only 3 going down because of Bury.


That may be the case but the league table on the National League website has the cut off point above the 4th from bottom team.🤔
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Riveting analysis.
Thanks.


You are welcome, doesn’t need much analysis. Pretty obvious tbh, surprised you haven’t noticed.

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You are welcome, doesn’t need much analysis. Pretty obvious tbh, surprised you haven’t noticed.



I've enjoyed reading some good comments and research on this thread.
Then I saw yours.
Don't mind me,you carry on.



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Anyone who thinks ian Holloway Is thick needs to give there head a wobble its an insult to a man who has achieved more in football than most managers can dream of.

We could only wish and hope we could maybe get a bit of lady luck on our side and john fentys got up in a good mood and we manage to get him, this bloke is exactly what we need right now.

I would be privileged to have him as our manager.


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Anyone who thinks ian Holloway Is thick needs to give there head a wobble its an insult to a man who has achieved more in football than most managers can dream of.

We could only wish and hope we could maybe get a bit of lady luck on our side and john fentys got up in a good mood and we manage to get him, this bloke is exactly what we need right now.

I would be privileged to have him as our manager.


It's amazing isn't it how you can label a manager after the success he's achieved in the game.
Nobody has to be positive of his possible appointment or be a superfan of him but respect his standing in the game.



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Totally agree stadium.


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Definitely think we should let JF make his own bed decision on this one. It could be one that shortens the reign.
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Ian Holloway not a dream appointment, I mean you'd think we were anything but cannon fodder at the bottom of the lowest professional league in the  country.

No pleasing some folk.
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Ian Holloway not a dream appointment, I mean you'd think we were anything but cannon fodder at the bottom of the lowest professional league in the  country.

No pleasing some folk.


I just think we’re better than appointing a football manager (who has been out of work for 18 months) who’s kept himself relevant in a second career as a pundit by blaming the EU for a handball rule. Better than Limbrick? Probably. Very low bar though. Appreciate this isn’t a popular view but if he continued on his current trajectory in the Town job people supporting the appointment would blame JF for appointing him 🤷‍♂️.
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Holloway has publicly stated he is interested in the job, he just needs the board to stump up the cash, if the board don't get this over the line this will be the worst days work they have ever done. A manager of his experience does not come along often, he will have better contacts than anybody else, he will attract better players because of who he is and the media will like him as he is very media savvy. It will be a financial outlay I know but that would more than be made up with the extra bums on seats.

I understand the theory he won't be interested for real and he's just saying this to make other clubs aware that he is open to manage again but surely now he has said he is interested and wants the job the ball is now In Fwbtrys court and if this doesn't get over the line there will be quite a few unhappy fans?
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Quoted from Davec
Holloway has publicly stated he is interested in the job, he just needs the board to stump up the cash, if the board don't get this over the line this will be the worst days work they have ever done. A manager of his experience does not come along often, he will have better contacts than anybody else, he will attract better players because of who he is and the media will like him as he is very media savvy. It will be a financial outlay I know but that would more than be made up with the extra bums on seats.

I understand the theory he won't be interested for real and he's just saying this to make other clubs aware that he is open to manage again but surely now he has said he is interested and wants the job the ball is now In Fwbtrys court and if this doesn't get over the line there will be quite a few unhappy fans?


Absolutely Dave, he's made his stance clear, now it's over to the board, not just Fenty, to get this over the line.
Alas I think those tight purse strings will be too tight and again we'll be left disappointed at the ongoing austerity within our club, austerity controlled by one mans inability to seize an opportunity even when it slaps him in the face like the proverbial wet fish!!..
I agree that the appointment of Holloway would bring a mountain of managerial experience and the contacts he must have within football have to be quite substantial and could lead to some right gems being loaned to the club..
But I go back to the accountants putting.a blocker on this...such a shame that shortsightedness and penny punching will kill any optimism from the fans this appointment could bring.
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While he'll undoubtedly have a lot of contacts, I'm not sure many of them will be experienced in or have knowledge of league two relegation battles. Also not sure how much knowledge he'll have of players for this level
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While he'll undoubtedly have a lot of contacts, I'm not sure many of them will be experienced in or have knowledge of league two relegation battles. Also not sure how much knowledge he'll have of players for this level


He could quite easily bring Championship-level youngsters or fringe players who’d jump at the chance.
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Probably sick of posting on this thread now but one things just dawned on me...
Although Holloway has said he's "interested" has he actually said he "wants" it??...
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May be Holloway is awaiting proof of funds....


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May be Holloway is awaiting proof of funds....


Hope he’s given the tyre kicker a deadline
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Jesus anyone reading this thread who didn’t know anything about football would think that Holloway was some kind of footballing messiah !!
Let’s face it he’s way out of our budget wages wises and would want a playing budget we don’t have .


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Hope he’s given the tyre kicker a deadline


In all seriousness, it would be ironic if he came out and said the exact same thing as the club have been claiming about potential investors.



'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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He could quite easily bring Championship-level youngsters or fringe players who’d jump at the chance.


A bit like all the Burnley and Palace youngsters Jolley brought in you mean?



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Simple fact is, any manager is a gamble, especially at our level. Football management is short lived and actually, change is good sometimes.

Holloway, if appointed could be a revelation or a disaster. Remember when Newell came in, people weren’t exactly disappointed...

Football is all about gambling and what ifs...what if PH had left when Shouty was sacked, we could’ve gone up sooner or could still be down there...who knows.

What if we’d been prepared to pay RS the correct money way back when. May be we’d be an established league 1 side.

What if we hadn’t relied on other clubs misfortunes to save our own arses...we could be in a much stronger position.

It’s all ifs and buts.


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A bit like all the Burnley and Palace youngsters Jolley brought in you mean?



Well very true, but Holloway has a pretty impressive CV, whereas, as you’ve stated many times, Jolley was effectively a ‘subbuteo manager’ who really didn’t have much of a network at all in reality.
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First one with a pic of him at the game today, wins a hot cross bun


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I think Anthony Limbrick is the answer.

However I think the question is who shouldn’t be given the permanent managers job under any circumstances.
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Well very true, but Holloway has a pretty impressive CV, whereas, as you’ve stated many times, Jolley was effectively a ‘subbuteo manager’ who really didn’t have much of a network at all in reality.


I knew that but many on here (and probably Fenty too if Jolley gave him the bullshit) seemed to think we would get Burnley and Palace youngsters on loan



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I knew that but many on here (and probably Fenty too if Jolley gave him the bullshit) seemed to think we would get Burnley and Palace youngsters on loan



I’ll admit it, I was one of those people. We were hoodwinked.
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When does the “I saw Ian Holloway set in the Main Stand” bit start?


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The ghost of Ekbergs past


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I just hope that if we win today john fenty doesn't rush into announcing limbricks until end of the season with justifying that performance has improved and has stabilised the club.

The worst thing we could do is try and kid ourselves, i always want town to win but we cant use a win as a cover up over the bigger problems we have in the squad.

Some might agree some might disagree but for me limbricks isn't the answer.


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I just hope that if we win today john fenty doesn't rush into announcing limbricks until end of the season with justifying that performance has improved and has stabilised the club.

The worst thing we could do is try and kid ourselves, i always want town to win but we cant use a win as a cover up over the bigger problems we have in the squad.

Some might agree some might disagree but for me limbricks isn't the answer.


I fully agree but I think you can gaurentee Limbrick will be announced as manager hours after the full time whistle if we win, the board are clueless and they are desparate to do things on the cheap
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I fully agree but I think you can gaurentee Limbrick will be announced as manager hours after the full time whistle if we win, the board are clueless and they are desparate to do things on the cheap


This is torture for the board. They clearly want to give the job to Limbrick but he hasn’t produced a single victory in what seems like about 2 months already. They can state that we’re a point further away from relegation but we as town fans know that runs like this send you down. Time for the board to appoint Holloway, and fast.
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I knew that but many on here (and probably Fenty too if Jolley gave him the bullshit) seemed to think we would get Burnley and Palace youngsters on loan



Jolley left the Palace Academy (where he probably coached the under 12s) in 2007!

(and did sign 2 former Burnley youngsters on permanent deals)


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holloway isnt going to wave his magic wand then all of a sudden we win games, Anthony knows the players and what there capable of maybe he needs a chance  
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holloway isnt going to wave his magic wand then all of a sudden we win games, Anthony knows the players and what there capable of maybe he needs a chance  



Needs a chance?!?! I’d call 8 games in charge a chance. Unlike others I’m not entirely keen on the idea of Holloway but he’s got to be worth a try, assuming he’d come here of course.
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Been told that I H has spoken to JF several times at his home.


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holloway isnt going to wave his magic wand then all of a sudden we win games, Anthony knows the players and what there capable of maybe he needs a chance  


If he knows the players then please explain why we had three wide attackers on after half time. Akheem is not a centre forward.
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holloway isnt going to wave his magic wand then all of a sudden we win games, Anthony knows the players and what there capable of maybe he needs a chance  


If he knows the players then please explain why we had three wide attackers on after half time. Akheem is not a centre forward.
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holloway isnt going to wave his magic wand then all of a sudden we win games, Anthony knows the players and what there capable of maybe he needs a chance  


I don't doubt AL knows the players, I do have however, have grave doubts about his ability to manage said players.


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Been told that I H has spoken to JF several times at his home.


Jesus, game of snooker, complimentary roll-neck sweater and a discussion on the merits of erotic art.


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Been told that I H has spoken to JF several times at his home.


So to clarify.
Nothing from the club confirming we are talking to IH.
Just a story run by the reliable GT.
A rumour that IH has spoken to JF.



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Been told that I H has spoken to JF several times at his home.


Who by  ?


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If he knows the players then please explain why we had three wide attackers on after half time. Akheem is not a centre forward.


He is a centre forward, and scored quite freely in that position at youth level. He is still young and raw in what is his first season with regular appearances. We shouldn’t be relying on him in our current form and it’s a bit harsh to be digging him out. The only reason he’s playing is because Green and Ogbu mostly look like they couldn’t give a toss.

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He is a centre forward, and scored quite freely in that position at youth level. He is still young and raw in what is his first season with regular appearances. We shouldn’t be relying on him in our current form and it’s a bit harsh to be digging him out. The only reason he’s playing is because Green and Ogbu mostly look like they couldn’t give a toss.



Ogbu did more in his 25 than Rose did in the half. Rose is garbage, its not harsh, if a player isnt good enough fans are entitled to say so
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I saw Holloway before the game today,

He was on i follow  

Fenty has said he will take £200,000 of his loan out the club and buy shares with it,

Well I think that is very good of him but I would rather he gives Holloway a good bit of that to bring him in the club.

After all we do not know what AL will do with it as we do not know his recruitment skills.


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holloway isnt going to wave his magic wand then all of a sudden we win games, Anthony knows the players and what there capable of maybe he needs a chance  


ALL new managers worth their salt have a proverbial magic wand - an ability to get results out of players who NEED to impress. AL has failed to do that, quite miserably. All other clubs manage to get the ‘new manager bounce’ except us! Time for this obvious change.
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Quoted from Hagrid


Ogbu did more in his 25 than Rose did in the half. Rose is garbage, its not harsh, if a player isnt good enough fans are entitled to say so


Rose seemed to pick the wrong option too many times, shooting when a pass was on etc.  Poor control and wrongly weighted passes also frustrated attacks with potential.  The biggest one for me, was failing to really attack that cross to the back post, their full back was relatively untroubled when clearing when Rose should have been all over him.

However, it's easy to pin it all on Rose, despite his present limitations, he may be useful as an impact player.  I just thought AL made the wrong call in bringing him on at Half Time.  

In the bigger picture, giving credit to AL, I do think he has found Harry Clifton's best position and that has been part of our improvement.  It's a shame no one else in our midfield 3 has a regular goal threat in them.

The big question in the manager debate is does AL have the ability to recruit the players who can make a difference.  We may never know, the present results may make giving him that chance too risky.
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Story today was that Holloway is linked with the other investment group, and that Shutes is out of the picture as he has failed to come up with the £££££
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Quoted from Roast Em Bobby


He is a centre forward, and scored quite freely in that position at youth level. He is still young and raw in what is his first season with regular appearances. We shouldn’t be relying on him in our current form and it’s a bit harsh to be digging him out. The only reason he’s playing is because Green and Ogbu mostly look like they couldn’t give a toss.



I have said this before and take no pleasure in repeating it, but I just cannot see why we spent so much time and effort on Rose.

He really was terrible today, and it was a terrible decision to bring him on as the central "striker". He does not have the physical presence nor desire to get on the end of anything; I ahve been really disappointed with him after hearing so much positive talk when he was getting his papers in order.

I heard on the radio on the way home that Green was playing with a groin injury but AL took the risk. Another poor decision as you should never play a player who is not 100% fit, especially as we have Ogbu who did really well when he came on.  

Managers live and die by their decisions and AL has not done his chances much good today. I am still hoping the Holloway thing is a possibility as he would provide the much needed spark.  
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I have said this before and take no pleasure in repeating it, but I just cannot see why we spent so much time and effort on Rose.

He really was terrible today, and it was a terrible decision to bring him on as the central "striker". He does not have the physical presence nor desire to get on the end of anything; I ahve been really disappointed with him after hearing so much positive talk when he was getting his papers in order.

I heard on the radio on the way home that Green was playing with a groin injury but AL took the risk. Another poor decision as you should never play a player who is not 100% fit, especially as we have Ogbu who did really well when he came on.  

Managers live and die by their decisions and AL has not done his chances much good today. I am still hoping the Holloway thing is a possibility as he would provide the much needed spark.  


Saud it before, I've seen Rose several times now and he's just not a league quality player..never mind he's raw stuff...yes, he's quick and strong but he's just not good enough, time to accept that and let him go to the conference where he may just cut a career for himself ..
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If Rose wasn't so quick is there any chance that he would be a professional footballer based on his reading/understanding of the game and his technical ability? Definitely not. So I don't know why we've spent so much time and energy on a player who appears to literally have one asset which is pace and nothing else.
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If Rose wasn't so quick is there any chance that he would be a professional footballer based on his reading/understanding of the game and his technical ability? Definitely not. So I don't know why we've spent so much time and energy on a player who appears to literally have one asset which is pace and nothing else.


The frustrating thing is that we persist with a player who appears to not know what to do. If we were replacing Green at half time, it had to be Ogbu,
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I agree Rose was poor today, but Ogbu was a disgrace against Macc and that was probably the reason Rose was put on first today.
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Quoted from MuddyWaters


The frustrating thing is that we persist with a player who appears to not know what to do. If we were replacing Green at half time, it had to be Ogbu,


I wouldn't give AL the job on that one decision alone! We were crying out for a centre forward to hold it up a bit, and to bring Rose on for that job was just daft. I would take Rose out of the firing line completely for now as his confidence has gone and he looks like he has just been introduced to a football for the first time.

He tried to rectify it by bringing Ogbu on (who was very good) and moving Rose out wide, but too little too late.
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If Rose wasn't so quick is there any chance that he would be a professional footballer based on his reading/understanding of the game and his technical ability? Definitely not. So I don't know why we've spent so much time and energy on a player who appears to literally have one asset which is pace and nothing else.


Can't agree enough, was only saying today that his only real attribute is his pace, his positional awareness is poor, his first touch is poor, his dribbling isn't great and passing and shooting also not good.


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Green, Rose, Ogbu , Hanson ....Shearer, Lineker, Fowler......all would look sh1t and useless with the level of service, lack of support and total isolation received from the midfield today. Not a cutting pass played in to feet in the full 90 mins, whilst i agree Rose wasnt great , his strength isnt to play as an isolated centre forward with balls fired above head height towards him.

Its pretty ironic/ sickening that in the last few games we have actually put some decent crosses into the box in open play....at the exact time our main aeriel presence is sidelined.





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Has it been mentioned on quest does anyone know?
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No apparently lots of people tweeting him but about him looking like captain picard. Maybe everyone needs to tweet efl on quest and ask him the question? Its filmed live and they constantly check their tweets
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Has it been mentioned on quest does anyone know?


Has it been mentioned that Fentz and Holloway would fall out in five minutes flat?
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What a character IH is! I'd have him here in a heartbeat, seems the sort of bloke that's going to take no cr*p
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Quoted from mariner91
If Rose wasn't so quick is there any chance that he would be a professional footballer based on his reading/understanding of the game and his technical ability? Definitely not. So I don't know why we've spent so much time and energy on a player who appears to literally have one asset which is pace and nothing else.


He doesn't even use his one asset, on numerous occasions this season he's been one on one with a defender and rather than knock it past them and put the after burners on he's tried to dribble the ball and lost possession.............. poor coaching or just a poor player?    


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I see that look in IH eye then said it's a done deal! Get it announced fenty
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Said he would love the job.
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He’s just said on Quest that he wants another go at football and wants to be our new manager.


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IAN HOLLOWAYS BLACK AND WHITE ARMY.. Bring it on.


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I see that look in IH eye then said it's a done deal! Get it announced fenty



From how he was talking its sounding very promising

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"I would love another go at football, it'll have to be with someone I feel I can work with(thought he was getting ready to throw JF under the bus there) and have a chance to improve a wonderful old club.....that's what I feel grimsby would be for me"
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That was a come and get me statement from IH.
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GET HIM IN NOW!!!  IAN HOLLOWAYS BLACK AND WHITE ARMY!!


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"I would love another go at football, it'll have to be with someone I feel I can work with(thought he was getting ready to throw JF under the bus there) and have a chance to improve a wonderful old club.....that's what I feel grimsby would be for me"


We need this, we really do.
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That was a come and get me statement from IH.


I think also from the way colin murray spoke that it was a done deal, he seemed like he was bursting to say something more than just speculation
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Well you cannot get a more direct quote than that! He wants the job, very complimentary about the Mariners and does not mind moving.

We all (most) would be ecstatic if it happened. It would be a much needed light at the end of a never ending tunnel.
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The board would never be forgiven if they dont make this happen
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I love the way Colin Murray describes us as crackers ......... time for a decision JF.


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So Fenty’s dither & delay tactic has made a rod for his own back.

He could’ve announced Limbrick, like he wants, the day after Jolley went and I don’t think too many would’ve been upset. But he chose to wait and hope for SOME justification, a new manager bounce, just one win from somewhere and they haven’t materialised.

Now he’s facing the choice of having to stump up for a name like Holloway, who has played his hand well, or face a massive backlash from the fans.

The master businessman strikes again.
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So Fenty’s dither & delay tactic has made a rod for his own back.

He could’ve announced Limbrick, like he wants, the day after Jolley went and I don’t think too many would’ve been upset. But he chose to wait and hope for SOME justification, a new manager bounce, just one win from somewhere and they haven’t materialised.

Now he’s facing the choice of having to stump up for a name like Holloway, who has played his hand well, or face a massive backlash from the fans.

The master businessman strikes again.


Exactly. Can you imagine if he doesn’t appoint Holloway now?
He’s well and truly got the stupids to do it though.
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Think Holloway may shine too brightly for a certain board member and put him in the shadows. That never seems to end well, but as stated, if Holloway isn't the next manager now, it'll be a massive own goal and more disillusionment among the supporters.
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I’m in shock a manage of his stature is even considering the possibility of coming down to league 2 with us! The media attention would be huge on us so that could go some way in paying his wages 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Think Holloway may shine too brightly for a certain board member and put him in the shadows. That never seems to end well, but as stated, if Holloway isn't the next manager now, it'll be a massive own goal and more disillusionment among the supporters.


If he isn't appointed I think I will join you in giving it a rest for a bit.

None of us know if it would work out, but we are in the last chance saloon; Holloway clearly has a certain amount of affection for the Mariners, and even in this cynical age fans and potential fans would pick up on that and back him in their droves.

This is Mr. Fenty's chance to earn some much needed brownie points, and lets face it what has he got to lose? The increased gates would pay the difference of his wages.  
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I like the idea of someone coming in with that level of experience and profile but if he does I just hope the ghost of Christmas future has managed his expectations.

There is no money, the squad is paper thin and at the moment has no goal scoring threat, 2 of today’s 3 better performances came from loanees. The location isn’t exactly appealing to upwardly mobile professional footballers and the Board...... well we all know that their ambition is to sell the club which says it all.

We have support that tonight was described on National TV as “crackers” and decent portacabins though.

If we get Holloway it will be either a massive success or Titanic failure but after all the sh1t we’ve endured since coming up and before I think we should take the risk on him if he’s willing to take a risk on us. 🙈🤞


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I like the idea of someone coming in with that level of experience and profile but if he does I just hope the ghost of Christmas future has managed his expectations.

There is no money, the squad is paper thin and at the moment has no goal scoring threat, 2 of today’s 3 better performances came from loanees. The location isn’t exactly appealing to upwardly mobile professional footballers and the Board...... well we all know that their ambition is to sell the club which says it all.

We have support that tonight was described on National TV as “crackers” and decent portacabins though.

If we get Holloway it will be either a massive success or Titanic failure but after all the sh1t we’ve endured since coming up and before I think we should take the risk on him if he’s willing to take a risk on us. 🙈🤞


Also mentioned a wonderful old club, a lot of passion and its a famous old football club.


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They’ll both look as daft as each other if it doesn’t happen now. I remember posting something very similar when Sol Campbell publicly expressed interest in the job last time after Fenty called him out on it. What happened then?
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Not many potential managers get a TV slot to make the hard sell! Can't blame him, I suppose.

He's got plenty of managerial experience and a decent record so ought to be a decent appointment, if he comes.
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Think Holloway may shine too brightly for a certain board member and put him in the shadows. That never seems to end well, but as stated, if Holloway isn't the next manager now, it'll be a massive own goal and more disillusionment among the supporters.


I’m sure being in the limelight is great and all, but surely if you’d spent the last 15 years of your life being showerered with the anger and discontent of your patrons, you’d welcome some time in the shadows?

Unless you were some kind of sociopathic narcissist or something...

Oh.


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The question for me is who initiated this contact. Are we actively pursuing him, or is he actively touting for the job? It seems talks have taken place, so who is doing the courting here?
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I was told weeks ago that the board wanted to appoint AL and JF wanted to bring someone new in, and was willing to pay for this. The board apparently voted against this and have since pressed to appoint AL. All speculation I know but JF is always to blame isn’t he!


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The question for me is who initiated this contact. Are we actively pursuing him, or is he actively touting for the job? It seems talks have taken place, so who is doing the courting here?


Don't get him started on courting again.
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I was told weeks ago that the board wanted to appoint AL and JF wanted to bring someone new in, and was willing to pay for this. The board apparently voted against this and have since pressed to appoint AL. All speculation I know but JF is always to blame isn’t he!


That would be very interesting if true.
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I was told weeks ago that the board wanted to appoint AL and JF wanted to bring someone new in, and was willing to pay for this. The board apparently voted against this and have since pressed to appoint AL. All speculation I know but JF is always to blame isn’t he!


If the board voted not to appoint a new man weeks ago why interview one last week?
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If the board voted not to appoint a new man weeks ago why interview one last week?


Because Limbrick has had rubbish results and so having to reconsider I guess
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I don’t know, they may have been holding out for a win and in the mean time continued to allow interviews for the job? Who really knows what goes on in their heads?


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Holloway gone back favourite again 8/11


We're on our way back, we’ll was now on our way back to non league 👍🏻
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Also mentioned a wonderful old club, a lot of passion and its a famous old football club.


The Board have a problem then - Holloway has gone public, if they stick with AL when it goes pear-shaped it will be the Board that will take the flak from the fans...
- but not really. Because we've been here so many times now many are just so fed up with years of failed direction of GTFC that we are getting to the point of just shoulder shrugging; sadly, I think the passion is waning. I think someone else mentioned on here that they are just going through the motions of supporting. That's how I feel at the moment and it seems like the case with many others - our home attendances and away followings are now down below Conference level.

As it happens my big hope rests with Cummings, not Bobby, but Dominic. I can't stand the Tories but I do think there will be cash chucked around for a while [url]https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/conservatives-diverting-public-money-north-midlands-reward-voters-1350648[/url]. Appoint Holloway, get new investors in and there will be money for enabling and infrastructure works for a stadium - the time is now. But member this up again and we'll be heading for local derbies with Boston...




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This situation really is a massive predicament for Fenty!! Now it’s gone Public AND IH has said he would come, JF has two choices available?

Choice 1:
Appoint IH immediately and watch the attendance rise from 3,600 yesterday to between 5-6k on NY Day (I’m sure that would add up to about £10-15,000 extra each week on gate receipts).

Choice 2:
Don’t appoint IH after all this speculation and IH publicly saying he wants the job and watch gates plummet even further!!!

This is an absolute no brainer JF. The chances are that the rest of the board don’t want to fork any cash out because they are all tight as 🦆 asses and only have their premium bonds to secure their position on the Board!

Please make the right choice for everyone at this Club!! If it doesn’t work out; The fans and Club made this decision together!!
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Followings IH comments on Quest the board would look very stupid and unmotivated if they don’t bring him in. The club is in a similar free fall to 2009/2010 and I don’t think we would bounce back from non league, this is a final roll of the dice for Fenty and co to put things in place to try and improve our club for the next season or 2.

AL has got us playing better but we ultimately haven’t won in god knows how long and scored two goals in 8 games. He’ll be an asset within the back room team but he cannot he the main man any longer.

Come on Fenty/The board... get Holloway announced and bring some excitement back to the club from the fans and hopefully the players.
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I some how cannot see it happining.. we would need the 250 grand back that we are told fenty took back.. A decent manager will want 100-150k a year , And we will need better players , we have seen what you get for 3/4 grand a week . We would need players that can command 4/5 grand a week to move forward and i cannot see that happining, We are at a crossroads as a club and we have to make a choice what way to go. Its going to be interesting to see what happens. Everyone is clammering for Fenty to splash out, me included, but would we do it if it was our cash ????
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Dont think Holloway would demand huge money, he knows the going rate for league 2 and i very much doubt hes skint.
Probably the club finding him a home would be a starter and then promise of some wage funds for players.

As it is i can see a few players going, Sadly i think Ohman will be gone. Happily Whitehouse.

Not sure if the loanees will stay but they havent been taring up trees either, Gibson was decent yesterday and Robson is decent but a bit pedestrian.

Personally think we need a left back, winger and 2 central mids.
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Followings IH comments on Quest the board would look very stupid and unmotivated if they don’t bring him in. The club is in a similar free fall to 2009/2010 and I don’t think we would bounce back from non league, this is a final roll of the dice for Fenty and co to put things in place to try and improve our club for the next season or 2.

AL has got us playing better but we ultimately haven’t won in god knows how long and scored two goals in 8 games. He’ll be an asset within the back room team but he cannot he the main man any longer.

Come on Fenty/The board... get Holloway announced and bring some excitement back to the club from the fans and hopefully the players.


I have been someone who has urged for patience, but seeing that it took west ham and spurs one day to appoint new managers I am coming round to the need for a new manager at GTFC.
Eight games with no wins by AL does not justify keeping him. Sorry.
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I have been someone who has urged for patience, but seeing that it took west ham and spurs one day to appoint new managers I am coming round to the need for a new manager at GTFC.
Eight games with no wins by AL does not justify keeping him. Sorry.


The delay in appointing a new manager is unjustifiable.

But to compare with West Ham and Spuds is unfair.

They knew in advance they where sacking their manager. JF did not.


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I was told weeks ago that the board wanted to appoint AL and JF wanted to bring someone new in, and was willing to pay for this. The board apparently voted against this and have since pressed to appoint AL. All speculation I know but JF is always to blame isn’t he!


If that’s the case, what are the Trust directors thinking? Their two votes plus JF would trump the others because, surely JF has the casting vote?
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I was told weeks ago that the board wanted to appoint AL and JF wanted to bring someone new in, and was willing to pay for this. The board apparently voted against this and have since pressed to appoint AL. All speculation I know but JF is always to blame isn’t he!


I have it on good authority that JF contacted IH first.


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If that’s the case, what are the Trust directors thinking? Their two votes plus JF would trump the others because, surely JF has the casting vote?


I’m not sure the word “trust” can be used in the same sentence as directors where GTFC are concerned.



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The Board have a problem then - Holloway has gone public, if they stick with AL when it goes pear-shaped it will be the Board that will take the flak from the fans...
- but not really. Because we've been here so many times now many are just so fed up with years of failed direction of GTFC that we are getting to the point of just shoulder shrugging; sadly, I think the passion is waning. I think someone else mentioned on here that they are just going through the motions of supporting. That's how I feel at the moment and it seems like the case with many others - our home attendances and away followings are now down below Conference level.

As it happens my big hope rests with Cummings, not Bobby, but Dominic. I can't stand the Tories but I do think there will be cash chucked around for a while [url]https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/conservatives-diverting-public-money-north-midlands-reward-voters-1350648[/url]. Appoint Holloway, get new investors in and there will be money for enabling and infrastructure works for a stadium - the time is now. But member this up again and we'll be heading for local derbies with Boston...






Results would suggest its already gone pear shaped with Limbrick


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If that’s the case, what are the Trust directors thinking? Their two votes plus JF would trump the others because, surely JF has the casting vote?


The Trust positions do not come with voting rights IIRC.
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How anyone can talk about AL getting the job amazes me .. he can’t win a game and loses more than he draws. IH or not we need a manager and now
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I have it on good authority that JF contacted IH first.


I'd leak that to the press if I was him. Or certainly when appointing him (hopefully). It's strange how that recording of the very unpopular at the club Michael Jolley was leaked somehow. The club were certainly able to justify getting rid then so it was useful.
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I would edge my bets that if nothing comes out the club today then we've got AL until the end of the season.
It will be a major faux Pas if the board not not employ a new manager, that man being IH, and I can honestly see the gates dropping to below 2000 on a regular basis.
This club needs a major adrenaline injection and I realised that more than ever on Sunday as I sat in the pontoon and you could have heard a pin drop.
The passion from the diehards is waning and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see although we are looking like we are playing better football AL still isn't tactically astute enough to get this team firing on all cylinders..
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Why has nothing been stated publicly by JF or our magnificent PR machine?
This is where he does himself no favours whatsoever.
Even if it's to confirm that talks are taking place would be go a long way to regaining some respect. Get an extra 1000 on the gate with the appointment and am sure many more would possibly tune in on ifollow for the Salford game


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If talks are ongoing surely it’s best for jsf to keep quiet until it’s agreed/not agreed
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The thing is if it comes down to money appointing Ian Holloway right now with the boost in attendance over the next few games its gonna help towards that.

Sticking to what we have now is only going to hurt us in the long run, i honestly cant believe its even a decision as the bloke in current charge was part of a rather unsuccessful run and hasnt had a win in 9 games.

All delaying time does is cost the club money and disgruntle the fans even more..

We have a proven league manager with a great personality saying he wants the job, it would boost morale and the while gloomy feeling right now how can sticking with limbrick even be a decision ffs.


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Quoted from Fishy clapper
If talks are ongoing surely it’s best for jsf to keep quiet until it’s agreed/not agreed


Ongoing?...he's had 8 weeks to get a replacement in!!...the Holloway thing is only a week old granted, but when someone of that ilk openly says he wants the job JSF and the board should've worked night and day to get it over the line...
But, as most have said, the board want that win so they can employ AL full-time and save a few pennies for some paint for the blokes bogs ..
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Quoted from Fishy clapper
If talks are ongoing surely it’s best for jsf to keep quiet until it’s agreed/not agreed


Why? Even leak a bit of speculation to someone. It gets the buzz for the club going and helps ease the apathy that is setting in doesn't it?

JF and IH would've named their respective terms, and if done correctly, I'd like to think that a time limit has been agreed by both parties.

It's just the hope that breaks you. Look at the size of this thread on potentially the biggest name manager for a generation coming into the club, while we are in the doldrums too.


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I’m expecting a statement around 10pm on NYE, John wearing his new cashmere roll neck, drinking a snowball, perched on the edge of his snooker table wishing us a happy New Years, claiming we’re moving in the right direction. Discussing the prospect of employing Holloway but claiming we’re waiting to get all of our ducks in order and when that happens we’ll all be tickled pink...and well, it’ll help us move forward...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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December 30, 2019, 10:01am
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Ffs stop dillying about NOW and get this over the line


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I sincerely hope that the talk of Board members wanting AL is balderdash.

The last time we appointed a caretaker with a winless record we got relegated. We seem to have a false sense of security because only one team is going down this year.

Our current form is 3 goals in 11 games, no wins and a few draws against crap sides.  At this rate we are not safe from relegation. That six point cushion could disappear in January.

We need a new guy who can come in, sign  a couple of new players in January, change things round tactically to get the best out of the players we have, and actually win a game.  
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December 30, 2019, 10:38am
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Quoted from RonMariner
I sincerely hope that the talk of Board members wanting AL is balderdash.

The last time we appointed a caretaker with a winless record we got relegated. We seem to have a false sense of security because only one team is going down this year.

Our current form is 3 goals in 11 games, no wins and a few draws against crap sides.  At this rate we are not safe from relegation. That six point cushion could disappear in January.

We need a new guy who can come in, sign  a couple of new players in January, change things round tactically to get the best out of the players we have, and actually win a game.  


This is the summary of what the board need to read and act on immediately.
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We’re assuming that there’s an element of common sense and logic within our boardroom and quite frankly...I don’t believe that.

When they do venture on here or Twitter they merely seek out the negatives and attack them, they don’t look and review the sensible comments and act or respond appropriately. The position themselves above everyone.

It’s as if they know more because they’re on the board which is such a ridiculous attitude but we’ve all seen it...it just reinforces the idea that our Baird holds the fans of the club with contempt.


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Let's look at the maths again, not the cost of bringing IH in, but the potential cost to us if we persist with the route we are currently going down.

60 points, to me, is the minimum any club with genuine ideas of progression should be looking to get any season. It saves you unnecessary relegation battles, and gives you a springboard for possible success. That is approximately 1.33points per game, or a win, a draw, and a defeat every three games. It's not mindblowing form really, is it?

Our current points level under AL is just 4 from 8 games, or 0.5 per game (stay with me, please) Over a whole season that would produce just 23 points, or the worst points accrual in this league since reorganisation, when it became League Two. If we keep this level of points accrual up until the end of the season, we will end up with just 35 points. We simply have to change. Even to reach the magical 50 point mark, which is generally reckoned to be the lowest you need to avoid the drop in a normal season would see us need to accrue points at the 1.33 per game. At our current level, that would mean 11 points from the next 8 games - or 3 wins, 2 draws and 3 defeats. Does anyone seriously think we're going to do that under the current circumstances?

There simply has to be change, the maths don't lie. In the absence of any other quantifiable statistics to back up the current incumbent, the club have to look at the figures in the cold light of day and realise just where we're heading without change.

I do hope the next post I put up o here is reflected in the link below.

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I’m quite surprised at Holloway’s popularity on here. Are his well documented views on Brexit to blame for this?? Haha.

Personally, I’m not too sure on his record, or the amount it might cost to hire him and lure him away from Bristol. And any possibility of the club owing more money to Fenty as a result. I’d rather have a young, hungry manager like Evatt, but doesn’t look like we can tempt him.

All about opinions though isn’t it. Happily be proved wrong if he does come and is successful.


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December 30, 2019, 11:13am
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It's happening all over again just like when Jolley got the job, a massive groundswell of support from the fans  making it virtually impossible for Fenty and co. not to give Holloway the job or risk even more abuse and flak than usual, I'm not sure that's the best way to choose a new manager just to get another 1000 or so through the gate


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December 30, 2019, 11:15am
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Limberick needs more time before Fenty can be sure he’s the cheapest option , I reckon till the end of the session should  just about right to prove he’s the cheapest , he gave Woods half of the next season in the conference to confirm how cheap he was.
Unless there is someone cheaper that he applied somewhere then I can’t see how anyone but Limberick will get the job  
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December 30, 2019, 11:16am

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Given our boards record of picking managers I’d suggest they just throw all the names in the air and pick the first one that lands...

Let’s face it, it’s probably more likely to work that way...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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Limberick needs more time before Fenty can be sure he’s the cheapest option , I reckon till the end of the session should  just be about right to prove he’s the cheapest , he gave Woods half of the next season in the conference to confirm how cheap he was.
Unless there is someone cheaper that he applied somewhere then I can’t see how anyone but Limberick will get the job  


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December 30, 2019, 11:19am
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Said he would love the job.


FFS He's out of work!



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Now he’s facing the choice of having to stump up for a name like Holloway, who has played his hand well, or face a massive backlash from the fans.
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The fans picked the last manager and look where that got us



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He’s technically not out of work - he has a good gig on TV.
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I want Ian Holloway NOW all the ones that are hesitant don't understand football, Holloway is decent.


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I’d love the job...that’s a standard phrase from any manager out of work.

And he’s also not gonna say ‘I don’t wanna work there, the non chairman is a flipping idiot’. Even if that’s what he thinks he can’t say it...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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To be fair I think the fans have applauded every recent appointment with the exception of Slade 2. There were virtual love ins when Bignot and Jolley were appointed so we can't be too harsh on Fenty et al.
This board was in meltdown when Newell was mentioned, demanding the non chairman to get his chequebook out. JSF must be bricking his pants working out how much it would cost if Holloway fails!!
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Quoted from aldi_01
I’d love the job...that’s a standard phrase from any manager out of work.

And he’s also not gonna say ‘I don’t wanna work there, the non chairman is a flipping idiot’. Even if that’s what he thinks he can’t say it...


We are only be his second choice (at best) anyway He wanted the Bristol Rovers job, while that was available it was 'Grimsby who?'



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The fans picked the last manager and look where that got us



True. Slight difference in experience though. Jolley had never managed a football league game and was a convicted sex offender.
Holloway has had a pretty decent managerial career across league football. We’d struggle to get anyone with more experience
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We are only be his second choice (at best) anyway He wanted the Bristol Rovers job, while that was available it was 'Grimsby who?'


Who do you want then?


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This is precisely what JF wants; he has total control of this situation and he will make us sweat over it before coming out with some absolutely 🎾 ocks that he chose not to accept what was, essentially, a generous offer!!

I honestly can’t see this materialising, given the current boards lack of foresight and poor decisions.

Prove me wrong GTFC, just for once!!

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Who do you want then?


Swin will never tell you what he wants only what he is against  

Happy new year mate  


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Quoted from Mendonca1995
Ffs stop dillying about NOW and get this over the line


You do have to laugh.
Exaggerated story in the GT & IH selling himself on a non descript TV channel.
No confirmation from the club whether a) are we even looking at an alternative to AL b) Discussions between IH have even taken place.
Throw in the normal "a source said/I've heard/a friend in the know" rumours & look were we are.



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Well played Mr Holloway.

Put himself truly in the picture for the job, effectively called out the owner with a 'come and get me plea' and in turn got the fans, i.e us, well and truly behind him.  If (big if) Fenty hurries up and appoints then Holloway comes here with a free ride for a bit, the fans will be well and truly behind him just because of the 'I'd love to manage them' line.

If, the more likely outcome, Fenty doesn't appoint or takes his time.  Holloway has used his media slot (and his mate Colin Murray) to further stress that he wants to be back in the game and the next club who sack their manager will have fans pleading with their owner to appoint Ian Holloway.  

As above, not massively impressed with Holloway's credentials in recent years.  But beggars can't be choosers.  We're not attractive at the minute and the gate yesterday was dreadful.  The club needs a breath of fresh air and it badly needs a boost in terms of the gate and also general interest.  I can't remember a time when there was so much apathy around the club, even during games!
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Quoted from Grantley

Who do you want then?


I was asked this a few weeks ago and as I said then I don't really give a excrement anymore I am past caring frankly

Please don't start a 'Swin doesn't want Holloway' rumour (I didn't want Jolley and I openly decalred it in the face of massive opposition and abuse) its not a case of wanting or not wanting Holloway but it is fact that he wanted the Bristol Rovers job and that, had he got it, he wouldn't have even found out about us needing a manager even less actually applying.We are most definitely his second choice

My concern is that, once again, every sodomist is creaming their jeans about a particular candidate making it impossible for the board not to choose their favourite

Will he be a success? Who knows, (I thought Newell was going to be the dogs balderdash) he might have a good record of promotions etc on his CV but were any with a club as low down the chain and with as poor a squad of players as GTFC?



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To be fair I think the fans have applauded every recent appointment with the exception of Slade 2. There were virtual love ins when Bignot and Jolley were appointed so we can't be too harsh on Fenty et al.
This board was in meltdown when Newell was mentioned, demanding the non chairman to get his chequebook out. JSF must be bricking his pants working out how much it would cost if Holloway fails!!


Some of the responses when those appointments were made were outstanding.
You'll never see people admitting they got carried away.
Default position blame JF,the board etc etc.



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Quoted from Stadium


You do have to laugh.
Exaggerated story in the GT & IH selling himself on a non descript TV channel.
No confirmation from the club whether a) are we even looking at an alternative to AL b) Discussions between IH have even taken place.
Throw in the normal "a source said/I've heard/a friend in the know" rumours & look were we are.


That "nondescript" TV channel is the main coverage of the Football league.

Most managers and players will be watching (and non chairmen) and will have seen Holloways interview.

There clearly has been talks, no way would he have said what he did without a firm basis in fact. He chose his words carefully I thought, and it seemed to me and Colin Murray that a deal must be in the offing.

If it doesn't come off, then I think the support will just drain away and leave Fenty to it.
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Quoted from grimsby pete


Swin will never tell you what he wants only what he is against  



Because when I do I get abuse from people like you!

I am neither for or against Holloway, I don't think he's as wonderful as some on here think, I think dropping down to the depths of the 4th division will probably not suit him at all but he is probably the best (or only) candidate plus as everyone thinks he's the right man we will probably get him.



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Quoted from Ipswin

it is fact that he wanted the Bristol Rovers job and that, had he got it, he wouldn't have even found out about us needing a manager even less actually applying.We are most definitely his second choice



So?

Of course his first choice is going to the club he loves and where he lives relatively local to.

Alan Buckley had to be dragged up here kicking and screaming first time round.  We definitely weren't his first choice. That worked out ok...

We're a crappy side with a crappy recent history, a crappy ground, a crappy training ground, a crappy owner who doesn't know his footballing bottom from his elbow in the bottom end of nowhere.   If someone came here and said 'I've always wanted to manage this club', we would call them out as a liar straight away.

We're not in a position to cherry picking our next manager.  
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Quoted from diehardmariner
Well played Mr Holloway.

Put himself truly in the picture for the job, effectively called out the owner with a 'come and get me plea' and in turn got the fans, i.e us, well and truly behind him.  If (big if) Fenty hurries up and appoints then Holloway comes here with a free ride for a bit, the fans will be well and truly behind him just because of the 'I'd love to manage them' line.

If, the more likely outcome, Fenty doesn't appoint or takes his time.  Holloway has used his media slot (and his mate Colin Murray) to further stress that he wants to be back in the game and the next club who sack their manager will have fans pleading with their owner to appoint Ian Holloway.  

As above, not massively impressed with Holloway's credentials in recent years.  But beggars can't be choosers.  We're not attractive at the minute and the gate yesterday was dreadful.  The club needs a breath of fresh air and it badly needs a boost in terms of the gate and also general interest.  I can't remember a time when there was so much apathy around the club, even during games!


I think I have a bit more faith in human nature than that. He could just have said I don't know about the Grimsby job but would like to get back in the game.

He seemed to have a genuine affection; perhaps he likes "famous old clubs" and would like to help get this one back on its feet. He must have played/managed against us at BP when times were better so will know what is achievable.  
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Is there anyone at the club that can genuinely see the commercial benefits of an appointment like Holloway?

Everyone can get in to the ins and outs of whether it’s a success or not but commercially appointing someone like Holloway, albeit his second choice, could be important to raising the profile of a club which quite frankly, it’s current custodians have thrown in to the bin and thrown it out to sea...


'the poor and the needy are selfish and greedy'...well done Mozza
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That "nondescript" TV channel is the main coverage of the Football league.

Most managers and players will be watching (and non chairmen) and will have seen Holloways interview.

There clearly has been talks, no way would he have said what he did without a firm basis in fact. He chose his words carefully I thought, and it seemed to me and Colin Murray that a deal must be in the offing.

If it doesn't come off, then I think the support will just drain away and leave Fenty to it.


It's not exactly the BBC,Sky Sports or even Channel 5 is it?
But thanks for confirming talks have taken place.
Now if only you could substantiate that........



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If it doesn't come off, then I think the support will just drain away and leave Fenty to it.


Why? Because Fenty hasn't allowed the fans to choose the next manager? That happened last time if I recall



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He seemed to have a genuine affection; perhaps he likes "famous old clubs" and would like to help get this one back on its feet.  


Oh please! You'll tell us next Santa Claus exists



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Oh please! You'll tell us next Santa Claus exists



I am glad you waited until Dec. 30th to tell me that, it would have ruined my Christmas.



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I think I have a bit more faith in human nature than that. He could just have said I don't know about the Grimsby job but would like to get back in the game.

He seemed to have a genuine affection; perhaps he likes "famous old clubs" and would like to help get this one back on its feet. He must have played/managed against us at BP when times were better so will know what is achievable.  


Sorry but I think you are been rather naive.
He's using the media to pitch himself in the market.



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Oh please! You'll tell us next Santa Claus exists



Well I got some Christmas presents, so he must be true.

Come on, there is no need to be so curmudgeonly surely? I am only repeating what he said on TV about us being a famous old club or whatever phrase he used.
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It’s all hyperbole at this stage and let’s face it, the faith in our board is non existent. Similarly, the man wants a job so....

I looked around BP yesterday, was literally people just going there because it’s some duty or addiction, because that’s just what you do. The apathy is more worrying than people moaning because some people booed or some didn’t clap or whatever balderdash.

Apathy is contagious and it’s spreading at a rate of knots. An appointment like this could holt it, if only temporarily. Honest John has shown several times that he’s not really able to handle the excrement he gets (he could change that but chooses not to) so this could release some of that...doesn’t really change anything at the club but it would help...and I’d imagine having someone like Holloway makes you more appealing to a buyer...


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Quoted from Stadium


Sorry but I think you are been rather naive.
He's using the media to pitch himself in the market.


Its a long time since anybody called me that, but I want to be positive about GTFC, just this once.

Anyway, if he had been using the media he would have chosen the BBC, Sky or channel 5 according to you.   
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Its a long time since anybody called me that, but I want to be positive about GTFC, just this once.

Anyway, if he had been using the media he would have chosen the BBC, Sky or channel 5 according to you.   


Exactly,I'm sure he wanted that but had to make do with the non descript one.
Nothing wrong with positivity either.




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I am only repeating what he said on TV about us being a famous old club or whatever phrase he used.


I know, I heard him say it but surely you didn't swallow that balderdash did you?



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Oh please! You'll tell us next Santa Claus exists



Big fella in a red suit, carries a sack of pressies over his shoulder. You must have seen him at least once in the past month?


I was there, the day Bradley Wood scored a 35 yarder!

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He’s technically not out of work - he has a good gig on TV.


And radio. I’m sure he does well financially, he just wants to get back into management. It’s a great opportunity for us to get back on track too.
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I looked around BP yesterday, was literally people just going there because it’s some duty or addiction, because that’s just what you do.


If I’m like anyone else, it’s definately duty rather than addiction. In my life I’ve been addicted to cigarettes, booze, sex, prescription painkillers, sour cream and onion pringles, metamphetamine, spice and those little cocktail sausages you get on a stick. Believe me when I say I feel no physical or mental compulsion to enter Blundell Park these days.

I’ll be there on New Year’s Day, but only because the mother-in-law is coming round and it’s a good excuse to fúck off for the day.

There’s definitely a part of me that wants this to happen purely to break up the monotony of following Town and breathe some entertainment and life back into the club. Whether that’s a good reason to select a manager is up for debate, but I suspect I’m not alone in that sentiment.


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If I’m like anyone else, it’s definately duty rather than addiction. In my life I’ve been addicted to cigarettes, booze, sex, prescription painkillers, sour cream and onion pringles, metamphetamine, spice and those little cocktail sausages you get on a stick. Believe me when I say I feel no physical or mental compulsion to enter Blundell Park these days.

I’ll be there on New Year’s Day, but only because the mother-in-law is coming round and it’s a good excuse to fúck off for the day.

There’s definitely a part of me that wants this to happen purely to break up the monotony of following Town and breathe some entertainment and life back into the club. Whether that’s a good reason to select a manager is up for debate, but I suspect I’m not alone in that sentiment.


I think the personality thing is more important than some realise.

The club is dying before our eyes; we are not going to get a "current"  in work manager, and the task is too big for an up and coming manager and even then the preffered option probably won't come (the Barrow manager say)

The board, unless we get a takeover, are not going to turn around the clubs fortunes so I am pinning my hopes on a charismatic and knowledgeable manager who still has something to prove to himself.

Our last hope seems to be that Holloway might be able to galvanise the fan base, get the team winning and put the club in a better light for future investors.

It is a no brainer really as our options are so limited. An increase in attendances would offset the increase in wages, and he might be able to attract better players which in turn would increase the interest.

The current board seem to have this opportunity almost given to them on a plate; it would be daft to turn it down.
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Agree with Poojah's comments about breaking up monotony and breath of fresh air
Has an Ivano Bonetti feel about it - might go mammaries up but who cares
Rather that than this continual boring dross where after 10 mins I'm scrolling through the scores on BBC app

People on TV studios say lots of things that are lacking int 100% sincerity - it's part of making the football world go around

But he has made no secret of wanting to get back into the game so who knows?

He's a name within the industry so if he did come to GTFC and things started picking up then it might really nail a decision from a new buyer?

My cup half full on this one...
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Who else keeps updating the fishy in the vain hope there's a thread titled "Ian Holloway's Towns New Manager"?...🤭🤔
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ditto


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I do too  


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Me and the missus do too. Cmon Fenty you know it makes sense  
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come on JF,  doooooo it!


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Not sure I buy the argument of him putting thousands on our gates or lifting our profile massively. If he was appointed as manager of another league two club - say Mansfield for example, and I read about it, I’d probably think “oh, didn’t think he’d go there” and then instantly forget about it.

Clearly lots on here want him, but for me he talks a load of cliched balderdash, epitomises the traditional  treadmill manager everyone wanted us to avoid last time around, doesn’t know the lower leagues very well and is not particularly famed for bringing young players through. Still he’s got a bit of charisma so why not eh? All a bit like people voting for Boris in my view.
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Yes, and I agree with Poojah, lets at least burn bright for a few months if nothing else
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Not sure I buy the argument of him putting thousands on our gates or lifting our profile massively. If he was appointed as manager of another league two club - say Mansfield for example, and I read about it, I’d probably think “oh, didn’t think he’d go there” and then instantly forget about it.

Clearly lots on here want him, but for me he talks a load of cliched balderdash, epitomises the traditional  treadmill manager everyone wanted us to avoid last time around, doesn’t know the lower leagues very well and is not particularly famed for bringing young players through. Still he’s got a bit of charisma so why not eh? All a bit like people voting for Boris in my view.


Good analogy. Boris is a winner.
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Quoted from Roast Em Bobby
Not sure I buy the argument of him putting thousands on our gates or lifting our profile massively. If he was appointed as manager of another league two club - say Mansfield for example, and I read about it, I’d probably think “oh, didn’t think he’d go there” and then instantly forget about it.

Clearly lots on here want him, but for me he talks a load of cliched balderdash, epitomises the traditional  treadmill manager everyone wanted us to avoid last time around, doesn’t know the lower leagues very well and is not particularly famed for bringing young players through. Still he’s got a bit of charisma so why not eh? All a bit like people voting for Boris in my view.


I wouldn't say thousands with an s but we are currently missing around 400-700 on every gate as it is, adds up financially. He's built himself a decent media reputation for someone 'talking clichéd balderdash' . There's not much about the Lower leagues to know you just need someone with football experience to come in motivate the players, identify the weak areas and turn things around. You're just being harsh because of the overwhelmingly positive reaction, end of the day he's got 40 years in football and a few promotions as manager, name a better candidate? I doubt you can, free to have your doubts but no need to try and tear down people's excitement because you're not feeling it yourself
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Who else keeps updating the fishy in the vain hope there's a thread titled "Ian Holloway's Towns New Manager"?...🤭🤔


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Add me to the list


Me too!

But we are probably more likely to see a thread titled "Limbrick permanent manager"
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How many pages did the MJ for manager campaign get to on here before he was appointed, see Holloway for manager is on p38..

Still unsure myself remember wanting Bignot and MJ before..
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This is all too reminiscent of Newell for me.
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I hope Holloway is employed by GTFC.  An expensive, almost guaranteed failure, but good copy.


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This is all too reminiscent of Newell for me.


How? Newell was an alcy who went drinking with the players, he had managed Luton Town for a season and a half that's it
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How? Newell was an alcy who went drinking with the players, he had managed Luton Town for a season and a half that's it


He means it was a southern manager who seemed too good to be true, and was.  And Newells achievements at Luton are arguably far superior to Holloways since he lucked out at Blackpool.


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How? Newell was an alcy who went drinking with the players, he had managed Luton Town for a season and a half that's it


Everyone getting overexcited because they’d actually heard of him. There wasn’t one dissenting voice on here (me included) when it was reported we were appointing him. No mention of drinking habits or questions regarding his most recent jobs.
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I don’t see how it would be compatible with his media work anyway.
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This is all too reminiscent of Newell for me.


And don’t you think the Limbrick scenario is EXACTLY the same as the Woods one 10 years ago? It really is deja vu.
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He means it was a southern manager who seemed too good to be true, and was.  And Newells achievements at Luton are arguably far superior to Holloways since he lucked out at Blackpool.


Usually ignore your drivel, but Holloway took Palace to the premier in 2012/13! Please tell us what Newell did with Luton to better that little effort by Holloway.
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Good analogy. Boris is a winner.


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Usually ignore your drivel, but Holloway took Palace to the premier in 2012/13! Please tell us what Newell did with Luton to better that little effort by Holloway.
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Don’t rise to it, Gobby. By all accounts, Scunny are (another) bad season away from either a) administration, or b) a fire sale of their underperforming League One squad. I’m really not sure where their superiority complex has come from.
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And don’t you think the Limbrick scenario is EXACTLY the same as the Woods one 10 years ago? It really is deja vu.


Exactly the same? No.

Irrespective of this, I can’t get past the fact that the only success we’ve had in 40 years has been with up and coming managers.
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Don’t rise to it, Gobby. By all accounts, Scunny are (another) bad season away from either a) administration, or b) a fire sale of their underperforming League One squad. I’m really not sure where their superiority complex has come from.


In truth H, I really don’t care what Scunny do or are doing. I am afraid I go back to disliking ‘Ull’ more than any of the other local teams. Also I just want us to get the boat steady and move on from there. 😎
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I hope Holloway is employed by GTFC.  An expensive, almost guaranteed failure, but good copy.


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A winning, lying conman


Better to be a winning lying conman than a losing lying conman. Ask Jeremy.


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A winning, lying conman


FFS most politicians are lying conmen and women.
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Better to be a winning lying conman than a losing lying conman. Ask Jeremy.


At least a loser with principles and morals.


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FFS most politicians are lying conmen and women.


Most?


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I don’t see how it would be compatible with his media work anyway.


They can always do Quest from Blundell Park after home games.



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I don’t see how it would be compatible with his media work anyway.


Sorry, is Ian Holloway a football manager who is doing a bit of pundit work or a pundit who does a bit of football management? It’s the former. Media work is not his priority.
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He can still do media work whilst managing us can't he, albeit not as much but you do sometimes see current managers on the quest highlights show just hours after their teams have played, Paul Tisdale and Karl Robinson springs to mind along with Gareth Ainsworth. He can still appear on the highlights show after we have played an away game down south or something.
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Sorry, is Ian Holloway a football manager who is doing a bit of pundit work or a pundit who does a bit of football management? It’s the former. Media work is not his priority.


Problem is that we don't really know.

What I do know is that if I was from the southwest and had a nice little earner and over 50 years old, I would not be rushing to move to Cleethorpes.

Just saying.
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Most?


Well when I said most I was underestimating.
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Sorry, is Ian Holloway a football manager who is doing a bit of pundit work or a pundit who does a bit of football management? It’s the former. Media work is not his priority.


It certainly is at the moment and it’ll pay a shitload more than 12-18 months in NE Lincs.
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I’m sure this has already been commented on but after him coming out with the stuff about being interested in the Town job I just wonder how many lower league chairman with more cash than us have been in touch with his agent today? I’m sure a few where thinking “if he’d consider Grimsby then he’d consider us”.


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For the money Holloway will cost please can we have one more go at Tisdale
I really feel Holloway is old school and will fill the team with older journeymen
Tisdale will give us a longer term future
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For the money Holloway will cost please can we have one more go at Tisdale
I really feel Holloway is old school and will fill the team with older journeymen
Tisdale will give us a longer term future


And old school is what we need...no more Mr Nice guy managers, we need someone to get them geed up more...give them a roasting and out their arms round the shoulder when needed, a proper man manager with experience and one that will get GTFC back in the limelight for all the right reasons...
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I would be interesting to know what Gary McShefferey had to say to Holloway regarding his time at Town. I'm sure it would have been discussed during last night's filming... You would hope Gary would be complimentary about his time here.


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I'm gonna come out with a Holloway esque quote here...

It's like buying a new car. JF has budgeted himself 6 grand. He's gone on auto trader and looked about and what's on offer. There's alot of cars with motorway miles on the clock. They look nice but cone with a load of problems hence the reason they're cheap (Dave Jones etc), there's the newer but less fashionable cars knocking about but you're not sure If they're up to much because no one has bought one (some random lower league coach), or you can plow your money into the 800 quid MOT failure of your current car. It's abit excrement, got a dodgy seatbelt and some rust on the door, but you know what it's about Ans it's the safe option (limbrick)

However , It's only when JF has wandered into the show room and some cheeky chappy salesman shows you the nice 12 grand motor that you start changing your mind. All of a sudden the budget is out the window, you're loving the idea of heated seats and parking sensors and before you know it you've signed up to a 13 year finance deal at 3 grand a month (Holloway)

If JF were to go on auto trader and look for a 12 grand motor he'd find something that suits him much better and would please everyone rather than what's shoved under his nose.

But if I'm given a choice between Limbrick and Holloway, I'm swayed towards the latter. He's going to bring the fans back in, give us some media attention, put a rocket up the players and hopefully give us a lift


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For the money Holloway will cost please can we have one more go at Tisdale
I really feel Holloway is old school and will fill the team with older journeymen
Tisdale will give us a longer term future


No league Promotions.. i fail to see the buzz about Tisdale. Done nothing compared to IH
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No league Promotions.. i fail to see the buzz about Tisdale. Done nothing compared to IH


Tisdale has been promoted from league 2 multiple times
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Tisdale has been promoted from league 2 multiple times


His only managerial promotions have been with Team Bath.
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His only managerial promotions have been with Team Bath.


Did I imagine him getting MK Dons promoted last season?
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I'm gonna come out with a Holloway esque quote here...

It's like buying a new car. JF has budgeted himself 6 grand. He's gone on auto trader and looked about and what's on offer. There's alot of cars with motorway miles on the clock. They look nice but cone with a load of problems hence the reason they're cheap (Dave Jones etc), there's the newer but less fashionable cars knocking about but you're not sure If they're up to much because no one has bought one (some random lower league coach), or you can plow your money into the 800 quid MOT failure of your current car. It's abit excrement, got a dodgy seatbelt and some rust on the door, but you know what it's about Ans it's the safe option (limbrick)

However , It's only when JF has wandered into the show room and some cheeky chappy salesman shows you the nice 12 grand motor that you start changing your mind. All of a sudden the budget is out the window, you're loving the idea of heated seats and parking sensors and before you know it you've signed up to a 13 year finance deal at 3 grand a month (Holloway)

If JF were to go on auto trader and look for a 12 grand motor he'd find something that suits him much better and would please everyone rather than what's shoved under his nose.

But if I'm given a choice between Limbrick and Holloway, I'm swayed towards the latter. He's going to bring the fans back in, give us some media attention, put a rocket up the players and hopefully give us a lift


Your analogy works better if you think of the MOT fix-up not as the safe choice, but simply as the cheapest option in the short-term.

Many moons ago, I actually got caught up in this trap myself. I had a 20 year old Peugeot with about 200,000 miles on the clock. Something would go wrong on an almost weekly occurance, and I was regularly sinking £300 or £400 of my meagre monthly wages just to keep it on the road because I didn’t have enough money to go out and buy a proper car.

Ultimately, if I’d have spent the money up front on something fit for purpose, it would have cost much less in the long run and I’d have had a better driving experience along the way to boot.

That’s really what we’re faced with here. Everyone knows Limbrick is the cheapest option today in terms of salary expectation. But what’s the true cost of going with unproven inexperience in the long-term?

The role of a manager is so fundamental to the financial performance of a football club. In our case, the manager is the custodian of a seven figure playing budget, and their performance has a huge impact on gate receipts and other income such as prize and TV money - as we know all too well, austerity seriously hits home if you find yourself in the Conference.

When it comes to picking a manager, no one can ever being 100% certain that they’re not being sold a lemon; at least Holloway comes with a pretty solid looking full service history.


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Did I imagine him getting MK Dons promoted last season?


And he took Exeter from the Conference to League One.

So including his spell at Team Bath he has 5 promotions (including at least one at every club he’s managed) and 1 relegation.
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Did I imagine him getting MK Dons promoted last season?


Doesn’t count. Plastics.
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Would much rather tisdale than Holloway but doubt we will get either.


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What did  anyone expect IH to say when asked about the speculation linking him with Town ? P.iss himself laughing , say the clown of the chairman offered me £50k a year , a scratched up S class , a transfer budget that’s smaller than a mouses co.ck and his spare room to lodge in during the week . But it’s a famous old club so yeah why not ?

He’s a media savvy bloke with far too much experience to make himself look a kn.ob and has too much respect for other clubs/ professionals- he always comes across well on tv and talkSPORT. He said all the right things . But I really can’t see it happening. A lot of fishy peoples dreams are going to be burst I reckon .


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The board at GTFC go from one extreme to another when we make managerial changes.

After trying a young, up-and-coming non-league prospect in Bignot, we went with the tried-and-trusted warhorse in Slade.

Then, when that went mammaries up, we go for a young, up-and-coming manager with every qualification under the sun. A proper coach with intellect and an education.

And when that didn't work out? Well, the board's swing-o-meter goes completely the other way to the been-there-done-that sort of manager, with hundreds of league games under his belt (if we really are after Holloway).

I don't know what the answer is because I don't actually know what the question is. Are we looking for a manager to get us out of a rut and avoid relegation? Are we wanting a manager who can build a team at this level with a view to get us promoted on a shoestring budget over the next 2-3 years?

Are we investing in the next manager as part of a longer-term 'project', as it was intimated when we appointed Jolley?

There are still too many unanswered questions for me. I'm not sure what the board's long-term plan is, and I doubt there is one. We need to be absolutely crystal clear, as a club, what it is that we want before we dive in and appoint the next manager.

Because living from one manager to the next with no long term vision or any semblance of strategy to help us achieve that vision has not been serving us well for a very long time now.


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Does anybody know why Holloway has been out of work so long -could he have been waiting for a lucrative job like the great GTFC to come along ?
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The board at GTFC go from one extreme to another when we make managerial changes.

After trying a young, up-and-coming non-league prospect in Bignot, we went with the tried-and-trusted warhorse in Slade.

Then, when that went mammaries up, we go for a young, up-and-coming manager with every qualification under the sun. A proper coach with intellect and an education.

And when that didn't work out? Well, the board's swing-o-meter goes completely the other way to the been-there-done-that sort of manager, with hundreds of league games under his belt (if we really are after Holloway).

I don't know what the answer is because I don't actually know what the question is. Are we looking for a manager to get us out of a rut and avoid relegation? Are we wanting a manager who can build a team at this level with a view to get us promoted on a shoestring budget over the next 2-3 years?

Are we investing in the next manager as part of a longer-term 'project', as it was intimated when we appointed Jolley?

There are still too many unanswered questions for me. I'm not sure what the board's long-term plan is, and I doubt there is one. We need to be absolutely crystal clear, as a club, what it is that we want before we dive in and appoint the next manager.

Because living from one manager to the next with no long term vision or any semblance of strategy to help us achieve that vision has not been serving us well for a very long time now.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdHALLSWNRg

The above link is from the AGM a month ago and some thoughts from JF about where we are going as a club from about 46 mins onward. Stick with it until the 59 minute mark, it may give some clues. Of course, we still haven't won a game since then, so the thinking may have altered, but the gist of it will still be relevant.

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Does anybody know why Holloway has been out of work so long -could he have been waiting for a lucrative job like the great GTFC to come along ?


Ask him when he becomes manager. 2 prem promotions to his name, managed Championship sides.


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Set to be announced tomorrow
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Set to be announced tomorrow


https://twitter.com/SportsPeteO/status/1211787857452507136


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Bit of chatter about tonight that a deals been agreed...


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flipping get in there, this is monufuckungmentous!!!!
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The same kind of "chatter" that had people thinking Nolan was going to be appointed the next day, or that a takeover was about to happen etc etc. I'll wait and see. All it takes is one person to make something up and before you know it half the town's heard it and people think it must be true just because so many people have heard it.


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I get really excited now. This guy Pete O'Rourke, with over 90.000 followers on Twitter, doesn`t strike me as a guy that will make up rumours for the sake of it.
What a Birthday present it will be for me if this is announced on New Years eve...  Very exciting time to be a Grimsby-fan! Hopefully this will be a done deal and the beginning of something big for us. We have been earned a little luck from the footballing gods for a long time now!

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OH MY GOD PLEASE JOHN.


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What did  anyone expect IH to say when asked about the speculation linking him with Town ? P.iss himself laughing , say the clown of the chairman offered me £50k a year , a scratched up S class , a transfer budget that’s smaller than a mouses co.ck and his spare room to lodge in during the week . But it’s a famous old club so yeah why not ?

He’s a media savvy bloke with far too much experience to make himself look a kn.ob and has too much respect for other clubs/ professionals- he always comes across well on tv and talkSPORT. He said all the right things . But I really can’t see it happening. A lot of fishy peoples dreams are going to be burst I reckon .


I'm not knocking you for that take on it, I can really see where you're coming from.
I'm hoping it happens though.
I think Mr Holloway would drag this club back from the brink, nothing to prove, no board forlelock tugging, just straight no bullshit management with some interesting post match interviews.
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Managerial appointment like this could be great for us investment wise


We're on our way back, we’ll was now on our way back to non league 👍🏻
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The same kind of "chatter" that had people thinking Nolan was going to be appointed the next day, or that a takeover was about to happen etc etc. I'll wait and see. All it takes is one person to make something up and before you know it half the town's heard it and people think it must be true just because so many people have heard it.


No, the kind that comes from 2/3 respected journalists on social media - with no connection to gtfc...


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Quoted from louth_in_the_south
What did  anyone expect IH to say when asked about the speculation linking him with Town ? P.iss himself laughing , say the clown of the chairman offered me £50k a year , a scratched up S class , a transfer budget that’s smaller than a mouses co.ck and his spare room to lodge in during the week . But it’s a famous old club so yeah why not ?

He’s a media savvy bloke with far too much experience to make himself look a kn.ob and has too much respect for other clubs/ professionals- he always comes across well on tv and talkSPORT. He said all the right things . But I really can’t see it happening. A lot of fishy peoples dreams are going to be burst I reckon .


You really think Colin Murray didn’t ask him off air if it was okay to ask him about the Town managers job? Of course he did. In fact Ollie probably initiated him asking him so he could give his “come and get me” reply.
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How do you know ? Were you in the studio ?


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This Pete O'Rourke journalist guy does usually turn out to be correct in my experience.
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Lets hope this comes to fruition, would go some way in healing some of the open wounds between Fenty and the support. Obviously this season is a write off but if we can get the enthusiasm back I can see next summer being very like the summer of 2015.
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Lets hope this comes to fruition, would go some way in healing some of the open wounds between Fenty and the support. Obviously this season is a write off but if we can get the enthusiasm back I can see next summer being very like the summer of 2015.


We're 15 points from the play offs. It isn't a write off if we can somehow gather some momentum. The squad isn't that bad, I wouldn't bet on it but I wouldn't write the season off either with 72 points available. Under Limbrick, I'd certainly write it off and be looking downwards.
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Quoted from Malta_Mariner_90
Lets hope this comes to fruition, would go some way in healing some of the open wounds between Fenty and the support. Obviously this season is a write off but if we can get the enthusiasm back I can see next summer being very like the summer of 2015.


Ooh yeah, I LOVE losing playoff finals. Those were the days.
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Ooh yeah, I LOVE losing playoff finals. Those were the days.


That was Spring 😜
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Well if it's true we'd better fasten our seat belts because it's going to be a bumpy ride. Horrible feeling it might be a crash landing but you never know so well played JSF, if it happens??????
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Maybe nothing to go by, but Wikipedia have him down as Grimsby Town manager, its got no date on it, but its there
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You really think Colin Murray didn’t ask him off air if it was okay to ask him about the Town managers job? Of course he did. In fact Ollie probably initiated him asking him so he could give his “come and get me” reply.


That would be my view as well. I cannot believe Murray would just slip this into the conversation without prior agreement with IH as he would not want to expose a colleague he has worked with on tv. Personally I am hopeful Holloway is the new Manager as it will give the club one almighty lift and provide some much needed positive news plus I did send JF a text on 15 November asking if there was any chance Holloway would be willing to manage in L2 so pleased he’s finally acting on my advice 😄😄
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Maybe nothing to go by, but Wikipedia have him down as Grimsby Town manager, its got no date on it, but its there


Isn't anyone able to add to a Wiki?

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Maybe nothing to go by, but Wikipedia have him down as Grimsby Town manager, its got no date on it, but its there


Isn't anyone able to add to a Wiki?

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If this happens the next 3 games will show him the support and potential we have .hope the ticket office has extended opening hours for tomorrow! Will be a huge following at Mansfield, obviously, whilst the exiles will turn out in droves for orient, think it will be 1000+ there as well
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Either a lot of people who posted on here are going to have egg on their faces, or we are going to be stuck with AL!
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It’s the time of the year a lot of chairmen have their fingers on their triggers . Any of them who watched  quest the other night will be thinking it could be their last chance to get him in before GTFC . Bit of clever brinkmanship between Holloway and Murray live on tv .


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Wikipedia was last changed by an unregistered mobile user, could be anyone. Most geunine users have accounts.


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Set to be announced tomorrow


This(Today)



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Can he just have second thoughts until 4:45 tomorrow when everyone's bet on Limbrick pays out?
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Can he just have second thoughts until 4:45 tomorrow when everyone's bet on Limbrick pays out?


It won't. Tomorrow would be Limbrick match 9.
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Can he just have second thoughts until 4:45 tomorrow when everyone's bet on Limbrick pays out?


Isn't Mansfield his 10th game??



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15 Nov - Jolley departed
20 Nov - 1 - Newport Co 2 - 0 Grimsby (FAC)
23 Nov - 2 - Northampton 2 - 0 Grimsby
26 Nov - 3 - Grimsby 0 - 0 Cheltenham
07 Dec - 4 - Grimsby 0 - 3 Swindon
14 Dec - 5 - Carlisle 0 - 0 Grimsby
21 Dec - 6 - Grimsby 0 - 1 Scunthorpe
26 Dec - 7 - Macclesfield 1 - 1 Grimsby
29 Dec - 8 - Grimsby 1 - 1 Crawley
1 Jan - 9 - Grimsby v Salford
4 Jan - 10 - Mansfield v Grimsby
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I got a tenner on at 8/1 on Friday evening. Come on Ian, sign that contract
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Reports in the telegraph that IH stayed at Healing Manor last night
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What did he have for brekkie this morning??


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15 Nov - Jolley departed
20 Nov - 1 - Newport Co 2 - 0 Grimsby (FAC)
23 Nov - 2 - Northampton 2 - 0 Grimsby
26 Nov - 3 - Grimsby 0 - 0 Cheltenham
07 Dec - 4 - Grimsby 0 - 3 Swindon
14 Dec - 5 - Carlisle 0 - 0 Grimsby
21 Dec - 6 - Grimsby 0 - 1 Scunthorpe
26 Dec - 7 - Macclesfield 1 - 1 Grimsby
29 Dec - 8 - Grimsby 1 - 1 Crawley
1 Jan - 9 - Grimsby v Salford
4 Jan - 10 - Mansfield v Grimsby


I stand corrected. In that case then, can Holloway take his missus away for a few nights. Russell Slade can recommend a decent mountain to climb with his wife. I recall that's where he was when his best mate John called him out of the blue.
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JF - if you can wait until after fulltime on Saturday to announce IH I’ll give you £20 back on your loans myself.
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RichMariner, it is not just Grimsby Town that when they change managers, they go for the opposite profile.

England are past-masters at it.  After Southgate,it will be a very old and experienced Italian manager who does not speak English.
..............

IF Holloway is appointed, he will probably want to bring in his own assistants.  What about the advantages of keeping on Limbrick etc in supporting roles for continuity and inside-knowledge?
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Reports that Holloway is at Cheapside as we speak 😬


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Reports that Holloway is at Cheapside as we speak 😬


Oh dear. Surely we should've got him to sign first, before showing him the world class training facilities?
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2pm announcement
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Maybe nothing to go by, but Wikipedia have him down as Grimsby Town manager, its got no date on it, but its there


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2pm announcement


Where did u see that clapper?
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What did he have for brekkie this morning??

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Just proves we have the money to get manager of Holloway’s stature, if this works then Fenty will shoot himself in the foot that he never did it before


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2pm announcement




Do you Fishy Clapper swear that this is true,the whole truth,and nothing but the truth and that if you are lying you will accept my season ticket for the rest of the season,so help you god
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Where does the bet stand if IH “director of football” and AL “first team coach”??

No insider info just speculating


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Radio humberside make it sound an announcement isn't as close as people think
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Not like Humberside to rain on our parade is it?!
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Tondeur has just tweeted Holloway is at Blundell Park right now... Quickly followed by a photo of him having a selfie with a fan outside the club shop!

It's happening people!!!


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Video also on Twitter of him arriving at BP!


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In the name of Pouton it's actually happening


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Right let’s chat about the ££££ and the budget available......oh


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That fella will feel a bit silly if there is a last minute change of heart, he'll be forever the guy who got a random selfie with the guy who turned us down  
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[tweet]1211981164459810819[/tweet]







I have just asked a mate of mine ,ANDREW, and he says the photo has been doctored and the arm round Holloway has been added afterwards
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[quote=37]In the name of Pouton it's actually happening [/q
Would perhaps be better signing in his own name.


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Odemwinge all over again on deadline day.

I for one am very excited about this if it happens, the bloke is crackers but one of a few remaining managers that will talk straight? Give rollickings to players when needed and offer praise when deserved. It will certainly be a better second half of the season.
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Let's be positive and hope it happens.....not everyone will agree he's the right man for the job but surely we need to give him a chance, cannot be worse that what we have going on now.

I am all for him, hopefully get a couple of wins and there will be a bit of a buzz around the place again.

First 'real name' we've had for a while....

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I’m really excited. Yes there’s a risk but that comes with any manager. This guy has a superb pedigree and is a genuinely exciting name that I bet none of us ever thought we’d manage to get.
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There’s no doubt that Holloway’s quirky, cheeky chappie image has given him a bigger profile than he’d otherwise have, however his achievements in management shouldn’t be overlooked.

He’s won promotion three times, twice to the Premier League including once with a massively unfancied Blackpool side under crackpot ownership (even if they hadn’t gone fully rogue at that point). You simply don’t do that without a modicum of managerial talent.

Aside from those achievements, his time at Plymouth was also very well regarded. His most recent appointments at Champiobship clubs Millwall and QPR are probably best described as unspectacular, but they weren’t disastrous.

Over the course of his career his win % averages out at around 36%, including two goes in the Premier League where win percentages are always likely to be on the low side. To give that some context, Paul Hurst’s win % here was around 50%, but that includes four successive play-off finishes in the non-league. I believe he’d improve on his last three predecessors.

There’s probably no doubt that of all realistic options, Holloway is the most decorated and highest profile. That doesn’t mean much in terms of influencing future accomplishments but it probably does at least help in terms of player recruitment. It gives players a reason to select Town as their employer. At the minute there’s very little in our favour - geography, money and facilities are almost all going to work against us when competing with the vast majority of other League Two sides.

At the outset, the list of names being bandied about were largely a mix of either unproven young managers or experienced, out of work journeymen. Holloway falls very much towards the latter end, but if (and for me it remains a big if) he were to end up here I’d be confident that he’d arrive full of hunger and a desire to achieve. Why else take it? Financially I doubt he needs it - he already has gainful employment in cushy TV and radio roles.

It would also strongly suggest that we’d made commitments in terms of investment in the squad and club infrastructure. Again, if not, why come?

In terms of lifting the club and community out of what seems like a never ending malaise, his character and general approach would work well for me. Of course he’s well media trained - it’s his job at this moment in time - but I do think he would ‘get’ Grimsby Town FC. That only carries you so far, and people have little time for attempts at humour or a charm offensive when you’re losing (as Marcus Bignot soon found out) but in the short-term at least Holloway’s appointment would lift people and that can’t be a bad thing.

Would it work out? Who the fúck knows? Will Ancelotti work at Everton? Arteta at Arsenal? Even at the top level where money is plentiful there are no guarantees, even less so in the basement. But if your only other option is a man whose football league record to date extends to a point and a goal every six games, it has to be the best way forward. Doesn’t it?



As usual Pojah sums it up perfectly, especially the last paragraph
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First time poster folks so please be gentle, Not sure why there is a degree of negativity here. As I sit and think about our recent prior managers, I.E Newell, Woods(Not really his fault) Hurst( Eventually) Bignot and Slade part2 and Jolley (Decent guy but average manager). This Holloway appointment looks a no brainer on and off the field  let's enjoy football once again.
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First time poster folks so please be gentle, Not sure why there is a degree of negativity here. As I sit and think about our recent prior managers, I.E Newell, Woods(Not really his fault) Hurst( Eventually) Bignot and Slade part2 and Jolley (Decent guy but average manager). This Holloway appointment looks a no brainer on and off the field  let's enjoy football once again.


Perhaps because he has achieved nothing of note professionally since smuggling Blackpool up a decade ago?


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First time poster folks so please be gentle, Not sure why there is a degree of negativity here. As I sit and think about our recent prior managers, I.E Newell, Woods(Not really his fault) Hurst( Eventually) Bignot and Slade part2 and Jolley (Decent guy but average manager). This Holloway appointment looks a no brainer on and off the field  let's enjoy football once again.


Welcome to the Fishy, we are not ALL negative here.  
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Perhaps because he has achieved nothing of note professionally since smuggling Blackpool up a decade ago?


Still got no mates on the Scunny forum, Steve? Oh wait, there probably isn’t one, is there?! If there is, we’ve certainly not been tempted to go on it.
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It is now being talked about on sky sport news must be happening now


We're on our way back, we’ll was now on our way back to non league 👍🏻
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Still got no mates on the Scunny forum, Steve? Oh wait, there probably isn’t one, is there?! If there is, we’ve certainly not been tempted to go on it.


Not looking for mates mate - simply adding substantiation as to why Mr. Holloway was not a fully enthused appointment.  But why let the facts get in the way of good copy?


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Getting excited here when I know I shouldn't, nothing has been signed yet, its like the Shutes takeover. Hope Fentys got a wheel brace and jack on him.
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Still got no mates on the Scunny forum, Steve? Oh wait, there probably isn’t one, is there?! If there is, we’ve certainly not been tempted to go on it.


Why would a Town fan (albeit with a warped sense of humour) have mates on a Scunny forum ???


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That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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Not looking for mates mate - simply adding substantiation as to why Mr. Holloway was not a fully enthused appointment.  But why let the facts get in the way of good copy?


What exactly has Paul Hurst achieved? Took five years to get us out of the Conference, didn’t achieve promotion at Shrewsbury and basically got Ipswich relegated.


Up The Mariners!
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What exactly has Paul Hurst achieved? Took five years to get us out of the Conference, didn’t achieve promotion at Shrewsbury and basically got Ipswich relegated.


Are we discussing the manager of The Claret and Blue Wizards?  I thought we were discussing Ian Holloway.


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Why would a Town fan (albeit with a warped sense of humour) have mates on a Scunny forum ???


It's not a warped sense of humour he has, it's serious self loathing issues in which he sits at home touting for friends on the fishy as he is socially awkward and can't help talking about wizards and goblins and how he can't wait for the next comic con at Cleethorpes Leisure center.


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Jesus’ disciple Peter, picked up a fish to get the tribute money from it, Jesus left his thumb print on the fish, bless'ed is the Haddock.
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Perhaps because he has achieved nothing of note professionally since smuggling Blackpool up a decade ago?


Strange, because I remember him getting Crystal Palace promoted to the premier league after leaving Blackpool.
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It’s defo Holloway.


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Strange, because I remember him getting Crystal Palace promoted to the premier league after leaving Blackpool.


The reason you remember rightly is because you are a genuine football fan and Stevie is a troll, he is constantly being found out to not know his stuff, which is hardly surprising as he keeps banging on about wizards.


Supporting the Mighty Mariners for over 30 years, home town club is were the heart and soul is and it's great to be a part of it.

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What exactly has Paul Hurst achieved? Took five years to get us out of the Conference, didn’t achieve promotion at Shrewsbury and basically got Ipswich relegated.


sCUNThorpe would have got through 10 managers in that time if they had not been promoted.
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The reason you remember rightly is because you are a genuine football fan and Stevie is a troll, he is constantly being found out to not know his stuff, which is hardly surprising as he keeps banging on about wizards.


You can say what you like about Fenty (and I frequently do), but at least GTFC wouldn't be left in financial turmoil if Fenty's wife has enough of him and kicks him out.
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Strange, because I remember him getting Crystal Palace promoted to the premier league after leaving Blackpool.


Aye they staggered over the line in the PO's (fortunately many think) after taking over top of the table.  Not a terrific achievement.


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sCUNThorpe would have got through 10 managers in that time if they had not been promoted.


15 Years.


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Aye they staggered over the line in the PO's (fortunately many think) after taking over top of the table.  Not a terrific achievement.


Getting CP promoted to the Premier League not a terrific achievement?  You're one of the stupidest trolls I have ever seen on this board.

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Aye they staggered over the line in the PO's (fortunately many think) after taking over top of the table.  Not a terrific achievement.


That sounds terribly similar to a certain manager that's only claim to actual success is stumbling through the playoffs to win promotion out of the conference....jog on back to your own forum
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Guys, take Stevie Cammack as a compliment, he is only on The Fishy as he wants someone to talk to..
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Getting CP promoted to the Premier League not a terrific achievement?  You're one of the stupidest trolls I have ever seen on this board.



Took over with them top did he not?  I don't class staggering over the line as terrific and neither do Palace.  Stupidity is relative, and you are obviously related sunshine.


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Aye they staggered over the line in the PO's (fortunately many think) after taking over top of the table.  Not a terrific achievement.


Aye, still got them promoted didn't he Dumblebore, all you now about is wizards Dumblebore


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I am sure IH still has plenty of contacts in the game to enable him to get some decent loan players in.
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Guys, take Stevie Cammack as a compliment, he is only on The Fishy as he wants someone to talk to..


Whereas you are on The Fishy as you hope to be ignored?


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Sam Strandt just tweeted papal white smoke. Either the deal is done or someone has had a homosexual in the Main Stand.


Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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2pm announcement

Not long to wait then...  


When Leeds trainer Les Cocker was once told Norman Hunter had broken a leg, he asked: “Whose is it?”
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Sam Strandt just tweeted papal white smoke. Either the deal is done or someone has had a homosexual in the Main Stand.


Definitely not sitting in the main stand tomorrow then
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I am sure IH still has plenty of contacts in the game to enable him to get some decent loan players in.


Aim for the stars, thats the ticket.


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It’s defo Holloway.


Has he been in for some cider, Charles?!
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Sam Strandt just tweeted papal white smoke. Either the deal is done or someone has had a homosexual in the Main Stand.


Is that where the homosexuals hung out at BP ?



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No I am on the Fishy talking with fellow Town Fans thanks..   I would go on the IronBru, but I have no interest in Scunthorpe.     Thanks for your concern though.
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Has he been in for some cider, Charles?!


He should try Timmermans, many different flavours or the Premium dark rum infused with banana, caramel, salted caramel and a hint of orange that is also gluten free and vegan


I wonder if I'll get any discount next time I go on a shopping spree eh Charles  


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Aye they staggered over the line in the PO's (fortunately many think) after taking over top of the table.  Not a terrific achievement.


They were 4th when he took over after 13 matches & they finished 5th.

And they staggered through the play-offs without conceding a single goal.
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Whereas you are on The Fishy as you hope to be ignored?


Whereas you, with your six fingers per hand, can never hope to be ignored.



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Aim for the stars, thats the ticket.


So Hurst isn't signing any loan players not even to replace the player he had fallen out with.

You need to keep an eye on PH he fell out with a few players in his time at BP.
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The club have officially announced it on Facebook


[img]https://images.app.goo.gl/bymuz36koLHofSn79[/img]
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Quoted from Stevie Cammack


Took over with them top did he not?  I don't class staggering over the line as terrific and neither do Palace.  Stupidity is relative, and you are obviously related sunshine.


They were 4th when he took over after 13 matches & they finished 5th.

And they staggered through the play-offs without conceding a single goal.


GollyGTFC

[img]https://i.imgur.com/wWrpMja.jpg[/img]


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Great stuff. The shares bit is interesting.


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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Doesn’t state how long the deal is for but IH now has shares in the club and plans to move up here.

I like the fact Fenty states IH interviewed him about the club. Shows that IH has a valid interest in the club rather than picking up a pay check
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Quoted from Abdul19
Great stuff. The shares bit is interesting.


Hope it wasn't a deal breaker! Has anyone told IH about Mike Parker?!  


I was there, the day Bradley Wood scored a 35 yarder!

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Absolutelyoverthefuckingmoon!


No attempt at ethical or social seduction can eradicate from my heart a deep burning hatred of the Tory party. So far as I'm concerned they're lower than vermin. Aneurin Bevan.
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No chance on this earth will Ian Holloway end up here, things we need as a club, the club prepared to give the manager so why on earth would he come here, if he does I’ll run around Blundell park naked


Will you be doing that tomorrow then?
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No chance on this earth will Ian Holloway end up here, things we need as a club, the club prepared to give the manager so why on earth would he come here, if he does I’ll run around Blundell park naked


You getting undressed yet?

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Will you be doing that tomorrow then?

And I'll supply the sausage  



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Quoted from promotion plaice

And I'll supply the sausage  



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Perhaps because he has achieved nothing of note professionally since smuggling Blackpool up a decade ago?


I wondered when our ferrous friend would crawl out from under a pile of slag he calls his home. Maybe he would be better off sticking to the Blast Furnace and boring their posters after the Mighty Irons  2 consecutive defeats!


The Future is Black & White.
"The commonest thing on this planet is not water , as some people believe, but stupidity ". Frank Zappa
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