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For the normal labour voter Corbyn was a disgrace and the early polls showed his unpopularity. A luke warm labour party could have won this election, I am no Boris fan but what a choice we were left with. Corbyn pandered to the remain areas at the expense of the big picture. A more central labour party would have seen off the conservatives and for this I see Corbyn as either a fool or selfish. His brand of socialism leaves us without balance. If the labour party is not allowed to take on an electable leader, I agree with Blair's agent who said form a new central party and leave the left to rot. Sad state for our democracy to be in and I will be surprised if Boris does much for Grimsby but we live in hope
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Grimbiggs |
December 16, 2019, 10:43am |
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Whatever your political stance; Labour is in very serious trouble, as they have a very narrow minded London centric vision for the country. If as seems likely, they continue with the Corbyn ideology through Rebecca Long Bailey or Angela Rayner, then it's likely they ll be out of power for the next 20 years, on the opposite side I can't see Emily Thornberry or Keir Starmer appealing to your Northern heartlands either. The country can only operate with a strong opposition challenging....Labour needs a serious rethink if it intends to challenge anytime soon.
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Ipswin |
December 16, 2019, 11:25am |
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Whatever your political stance; Labour is in very serious trouble, as they have a very narrow minded London centric vision for the country. If as seems likely, they continue with the Corbyn ideology through Rebecca Long Bailey or Angela Rayner, thrn it's likely they ll be out of power for the next 20 years, on the opposite side I can't see Emily Thornberry or Keir Starmer appealing to your Northern heartlands either. Thr country can only operate with a strong opposition chsllenging....Labour needs a serious rethink if it intends to challenge anytime soon.
Jess Phillips for me, calls a spade a flipping shovel and no fan of Corbynism
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December 16, 2019, 11:33am |
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Jess Phillips for me, calls a spade a flipping shovel and no fan of Corbynism
Yes I can just see Jess Phillips representing the UK around the world, at the G8 summit calling a spade a f****g shovel. Labour under this current guise is finished. Would be better from their point of view to start from scratch.
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Ipswin |
December 16, 2019, 12:06pm |
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Yes I can just see Jess Phillips representing the UK around the world, at the G8 summit calling a spade a f****g shovel.
At least she tells it as it is, no prevaricating, avoiding the question and most importantly doesn't lie (unlike the man currently in Downing Street) Anyway if that shambling buffon Johnson (who no one at the G8 can possibly take seriously) can be this country's representative around the world any sodomist can do it
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grimsby pete |
December 16, 2019, 12:36pm |
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The Tories will do intercourse all for Grimsby (or any of the other areas they are currently fawning over simply because they elected a Tory MP) Grimsby and the North East will be forgotten within 12 months.
I will be interested to see what Johnson does for those in Sunderland who lose their jobs at the Nissan plant after Brexit
Unfortunately I fear the Conservatives will get more than another 5 years, they will still be in power long after you and I are dead
They will have to do something for the northern towns Swin as lots have only voted for Boris because he was the lesser of 2 evils. What Labour have to do is get a leader that most people can relate to. BUT If Boris delivers it will be very difficult whoever leads Labour.
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Grimbiggs |
December 16, 2019, 12:45pm |
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So who would you choose as your leader then, I would have thought Lisa Nandy would be the favourite, or what about Yvette Cooper?....any thoughts?
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Ipswin |
December 16, 2019, 12:52pm |
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They will have to do something for the northern towns Swin as lots have only voted for Boris because he was the lesser of 2 evils.
What Labour have to do is get a leader that most people can relate to.
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If Boris delivers it will be very difficult whoever leads Labour.
They won't (they got what they wanted in the election now they will screw all the north like usual0 They won't either (although Labour might get a good leader it will take a while for all those who voted Tory and to leave the EU to realise their mistake and tuirn back to Labour) Neither will he (and I mean deliver more than just Brexit)
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Ipswin |
December 16, 2019, 12:52pm |
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So who would you choose as your leader then, I would have thought Lisa Nandy would be the favourite, or what about Yvette Cooper?....any thoughts?
Jess Phillips
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December 16, 2019, 4:22pm |
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Jess Phillips, or if he chooses to stand Dan Jarvis.
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