Respect the electorate or face the music.

A big haha fcuk you to every self serving MP from a leave majority constituency who went against Brexit and lost their seat!

Seems about right

All this talk about how many voted for a tory government

What was the turnout 69% ?

Well that means 31% was not bothered if the Tories won again.

If Boris improves the run down towns like Grimsby.

He might well get another 5years or more.

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All this talk about how many voted for a tory government

If Boris improves the run down towns like Grimsby.

He might well get another 5years or more.

The turnout was just over 67% of which 44% voted Tory meaning 29.5% of the national electorate supported the Tory party

The Tories will do intercourse all for Grimsby (or any of the other areas they are currently fawning over simply because they elected a Tory MP) Grimsby and the North East will be forgotten within 12 months.

I will be interested to see what Johnson does for those in Sunderland who lose their jobs at the Nissan plant after Brexit

But then we are not affected as we live in Sleepy Suffolk so intercourse everyone else eh?

Unfortunately I fear the Conservatives will get more than another 5 years, they will still be in power long after you and I are dead

Boundary changes, changes to the Fixed Terms Parliament act, ambiguous pledges to change the relationship between the courts and Parliament all included in the Tory manifesto. Decades of Tory rule to come.

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Boundary changes, changes to the Fixed Terms Parliament act, ambiguous pledges to change the relationship between the courts and Parliament all included in the Tory manifesto. Decades of Tory rule to come.

From their point of view Labour had a wonderful opportunity.

Even a casual glance at the "Brexit map" of the UK showed huge swathes of the country who voted leave. Practically all their heartlands voted to leave the EU after a democratic decision of the public.

The obvious thing to do was to accept the result, insist on losers consent and get the backing of a lot of their natural voters; a sensible manifesto and perhaps, just perhaps the Corbyn factor would not have been so decisive.

Sadly for them, the Islington set thought it would be a hoot to move towards a second referendum. As soon as they did that, it was all over for them in Grimsby and places like it throughout the UK.

I have even heard Labour spokesmen say that although towns like Grimsby voted leave, the Labour voters didn't...Obviously not all Labour voters wanted to leave but a substantial number of their natural supporters would, so they were on the back foot before a ball was kicked as it were. The Islington set were blisfully unaware that although all Labour voters didn't vote leave, they certainly did not like the idea of a democratic vote being set aside in the guise of a second referendum.

So many mistakes, such a lack of self awareness, talking amongst themselves endlessly about every hard luck story going whilst the vast majority of the electorate just got on with their lives, with a non-patriotic leader who no one has ever seen smile, who was describing the UK in terms that most people did not recognise.

So yes, the Conservative party take the spoils, and will obviously do everything they can to skew the odds in their favour for subsequent elections, but to be honest, unless the Labour party comes to its senses, or its moderate MP's move en masse to a new party it will be at least two Conservative terms before they even get close to power.

Never mind, somebody will  be along with a graph in a minute that shows labour actually won.

Personally feel they were backed into a corner and forced to go with the second referendum stance as they got trashed by the Lib Dems (as the remain party) and the BXP at the European elections and had to please everyone in the party in an election manifesto and in turn entice those from outside of it. They were six months too late changing stance. The fact that they had to defend Corbyn’s history for the duration of his tenure - true or not - didn’t help either.

The campaign was poor in Grimsby. We might have had shadow ministers come to town but I live on Scartho Top and barring a signed Melanie Onn poster to display in my front window and a couple of phone calls on election day (I’m a member) I didn’t see any of them once. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Scartho Top polling station is one of the busiest in Town on polling day - that feels an oversight. Compare the Labour effort to the Conservatives and they were out and about fairly regularly.

The party needs an overhaul. I’m not sure seeing Eddie Izzard campaigning in lipstick and a pink beret around London appeals to the ex-miners, fishermen and dockers up north. The Labour vote matters more outside of London than in it in a GE. If they mess that up again with a leftie leader again they’re done and a new centre left party needs forming that appeals to the wider nation or get trounced again for decades to come.

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Personally feel they were backed into a corner and forced to go with the second referendum stance as they got trashed by the Lib Dems (as the remain party) and the BXP at the European elections and had to please everyone in the party in an election manifesto and in turn entice those from outside of it. They were six months too late changing stance. The fact that they had to defend Corbyn’s history for the duration of his tenure - true or not - didn’t help either.

The campaign was poor in Grimsby. We might have had shadow ministers come to town but I live on Scartho Top and barring a signed Melanie Onn poster to display in my front window and a couple of phone calls on election day (I’m a member) I didn’t see any of them once. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Scartho Top polling station is one of the busiest in Town on polling day - that feels an oversight. Compare the Labour effort to the Conservatives and they were out and about fairly regularly.

The party needs an overhaul. I’m not sure seeing Eddie Izzard campaigning in lipstick and a pink beret around London appeals to the ex-miners, fishermen and dockers up north. The Labour vote matters more outside of London than in it in a GE. If they mess that up again with a leftie leader again they’re done and a new centre left party needs forming that appeals to the wider nation.

They were never going to retain Grimsby without accepting the referendum result, it is as simple as that.

As somebody said this morning - "we have lost 59? heartland seats, but not to worry we have gained Putney."

They will elect another Corbynite as the membership hold sway, assuming somebody like Long-Bailey is nominated. I don't support Labour, have never voted labour, but even I am at a loss at how ludicrous they have become.

They’ve had a lot of people join since Corbyn took over - like me - to vote for the new leader once the chance arises. There’s a lot of anger at the Momentum lot from moderates about. The problem is now that we’re left with a right shower to choose from (accept it wasn’t a fantastic bunch as far as outsiders are concerned to begin with).

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They’ve had a lot of people join since Corbyn took over - like me - to vote for the new leader once the chance arises. There’s a lot of anger at the Momentum lot from moderates about. The problem is now that we’re left with a right shower to choose from (accept it wasn’t a fantastic bunch as far as outsiders are concerned to begin with).

That is fair enough - we need a functioning opposition who are able to form a government when the need arises so I wish you luck.