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Has the penny dropped yet amongst those of you who wanted to overturn the referendum result, that you cannot deny the electorate and get away with it?
Has the penny dropped that each and every vote counts the same? You don't have to be clever, or have a degree to make your vote count. Democracy is for us all.
People came out in huge numbers to choose between staying in or leaving the EU, and we chose to leave. That wasn't good enough for you lot though, you thought you knew better.
Brexiteers like me dared to say democracy should be upheld, and even that Nigel Farage had every right to hold a meeting at BP, and was met with a barrage of abuse for my trouble. I suspect this approach from the left has been replicated throughout all forms of social media. It was replicated even by the official opposition who basically said to their heartlands that they didn't give a stuff about what they had voted for, they were determined to have a second referendum with a choice of remain versus remain. Not a good strategy.
Most people however don't give a jot about social media. They live their lives as they see it. They see their towns changing due to mass immigration, and not for the better. They know there are stresses in the NHS, but they also know that adding millions to the population every few years makes the problem a whole lot worse.
If Labour had respected the result straight away in June 2016, they could have spent their time advocating their policies but instead chose to deny the peoples choice with the blindingly obvious and inevitable result.
How any political strategist could advocate a policy of ignoring a democratic decision made by the British electorate, which included huge swathes of Labour heartland constituencies is unfathomable.
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Rik e B |
December 13, 2019, 12:10pm |
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Here here. The working man has been abandoned in favour of the Liberal socialist metropolitan types. The working man has voiced his displeasure at the ballot box and all those democracy denying 'I know better than my constituents' types have been kicked to the kerb and found themselves out of a job.
Oh isn't it exhilarating a true democracy?!
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grimsby pete |
December 13, 2019, 12:12pm |
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Well put LCL
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| Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner. 68 Years following the Town
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Dan |
December 13, 2019, 1:07pm |
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The majority can be (and are) wrong. But fair enough, you got what you wanted. This liberal metropolitan elitist has an excellent bupa policy, a globally diversified investment portfolio and I can go work in our Cyprus office if I want. So let’s see how it plays out for us all now you’ve got your way
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Quoted from John Fenty, April 2013
I deconstructed the flag to the point where it was safe and couldn’t be considered a danger
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Rik e B |
December 13, 2019, 1:46pm |
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The majority can be (and are in my opinion) wrong.
Corrected for ya
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ginnywings |
December 13, 2019, 2:49pm |
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And yet only 48% of the votes in this election went to parties that wanted Brexit. The whole voting system is skewed and half the population have no voice. At least you were right though, so that's ok.
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grimsby pete |
December 13, 2019, 3:52pm |
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There is no right or wrong some wanted to remain but more wanted to leave. End of.
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| Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner. 68 Years following the Town
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arryarryarry |
December 13, 2019, 4:35pm |
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And yet only 48% of the votes in this election went to parties that wanted Brexit. The whole voting system is skewed and half the population have no voice. At least you were right though, so that's ok.
I have to say that that is a typical remain response. No one can really know as there are likely many Labour voters who were leavers but would still vote Labour. You could also make the point that the Scottish Nationalists only got 45% of the Scottish vote but they are saying that they now deserve another referendum on independence. Also there was a larger number of voters in the referendum than in this election so who knows where their votes would have gone to. If the Scottish Nationalists get their way and achieve independence then that will likely end in a Tory Government for years as in the new Parliament there would be a Tory majority of 127.
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Marinerz93 |
December 13, 2019, 4:38pm |
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We had a people's referendum and the people said leave the EU
We then had a people's general election and the conservatives won meaning they are the people's party of choice to get Brexit done.
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Mikoo |
December 13, 2019, 6:44pm |
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Question for you guys who used to vote labour but didn’t this time. Once we leave the EU and a more centrist leader comes in for the next election, will it be back to labour? Or have you converted to the Tories for the foreseeable?
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