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December 8, 2019, 2:54pm

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Time for a change of personnel. Board, manager and players.

Besides that though everything is going swimmingly.


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Good heavens, not again?

Let’s rearrange the deckchairs on the Titanic one more time eh?


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McKeown

Hendrie
Pollock
Ohman
Gibson

Wright
Clifton
Hessenthaler
Ogbu

Hanson
Vernam


JESUS AT THE CENTRE
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December 8, 2019, 5:51pm

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Quoted from Abdul19
McKeown

Hendrie
Pollock
Ohman
Gibson

Wright
Clifton
Hessenthaler
Ogbu

Hanson
Vernam


Works for me but to be honest I think the shape is immaterial when our mid field lacks any form of creativity. We don’t have a mid field player who always wants the ball and it prepared to make themselves available at every opportunity


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December 8, 2019, 5:55pm
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Quoted from HertsGTFC


Works for me but to be honest I think the shape is immaterial when our mid field lacks any form of creativity. We don’t have a mid field player who always wants the ball and it prepared to make themselves available at every opportunity


Yes we do Herts, Hess is always there, always makes himself available, unfortunately we have an habit of hoofing it up over our midfield, that's the bloody problem!!
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December 8, 2019, 6:22pm
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Yes we do Herts, Hess is always there, always makes himself available, unfortunately we have an habit of hoofing it up over our midfield, that's the bloody problem!!


I have a problem with Hess to be honest.

I think he looks a lot better than he actually is because he never, ever takes any risks. Neat and tidy, yes, but his first thought is always to go backwards or sidewards. We need a midfielder who can break through the lines or create something for the "strikers" and we haven't got one.

Jim Dobbin was neat and tidy, but he also created a lot of goals and scored a few as well. Being neat and tidy in this team is bringing zilch to our chances of winning a game, or heaven forbid, scoring a goal.
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December 8, 2019, 7:22pm
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Quoted from lew chaterleys lover


I have a problem with Hess to be honest.

I think he looks a lot better than he actually is because he never, ever takes any risks. Neat and tidy, yes, but his first thought is always to go backwards or sidewards. We need a midfielder who can break through the lines or create something for the "strikers" and we haven't got one.

Jim Dobbin was neat and tidy, but he also created a lot of goals and scored a few as well. Being neat and tidy in this team is bringing zilch to our chances of winning a game, or heaven forbid, scoring a goal.


Where as Whitehouse is basically a fitness instructor who gets the odd fluke ....offers nothing



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Yes we do Herts, Hess is always there, always makes himself available, unfortunately we have an habit of hoofing it up over our midfield, that's the bloody problem!!


I think he is actually the holding mid fielder in front of the back 4 we’ve been missing for ages, his goal record and lack of finishing ability testifies to that if only he has better around him.

Jolley said he used stats a lot that’s why Hess, Clifton and Whitehouse are all very similar they keep moving and cover ground but not in the channels in front of them, then again in a 4-3-3 there’s far too much for them to cover.


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Finance some wingers in Jan with a view to playing a simple 4-4-2.  Until then, perhaps 4-3-1-2 or something similar would play to some of our strengths?

                                McKeown

Hendrie/Hewitt   Pollock     Waterfall       Gibson

         Clifton         Hessenthaler        Robson  

                             Vernam/Cook

                     Green/Ogbu       Wright

This can become a 4-4-2 when defending with adequate protection for the full-backs, but allows us to transition better in attack with a more advanced midfielder and plenty of counter attacking pace.  No point in playing Hanson without wingers IMO.
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Hursty at a time like this would have us keeping us shape in a rigid 4-5-1.

Build a coherent defensive solidity and then build from that once a few points on the board and confidence builds after halting a negative slide.
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