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grimsby pete
December 3, 2019, 9:51pm

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What would you say are your main sources for keeping up with current affairs?


I listen to the politicians themselves both Cons and Labour plus the minor parties,

BUT

I suppose you are going to say all the tv channels are tory .


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December 3, 2019, 10:36pm

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I think this is one of the reasons you will be in the minority, and have been for years. These scare stories are not working; I have needed the NHS all through my 65 years, most of which have been under Conservative governments. No sign yet of it being sold off, no sign yet of it not being free at the point of use, even though they (the Tories) have had decades to do something evil with it that you lot keep harping on about.

Perhaps they would prefer it to radically altered, but then real politics kicks in and they know they would be out of power for a very long time if they dared try it.

  


I'd rather I didn't have to pay for it after you've kicked the bucket.

And yes the media is dominated by conservatives? Seems pretty obvious that.


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December 3, 2019, 10:36pm
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Not at all. Genuinely interested to understand how you form your views - that’s all.
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I think this is one of the reasons you will be in the minority, and have been for years. These scare stories are not working; I have needed the NHS all through my 65 years, most of which have been under Conservative governments. No sign yet of it being sold off, no sign yet of it not being free at the point of use, even though they (the Tories) have had decades to do something evil with it that you lot keep harping on about.

Perhaps they would prefer it to radically altered, but then real politics kicks in and they know they would be out of power for a very long time if they dared try it.

  


There are plenty of signs of it being sold off. FFS do your homework before spouting such rubbish.
https://fullfact.org/health/NHS-privatisation/
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I think this is one of the reasons you will be in the minority, and have been for years. These scare stories are not working; I have needed the NHS all through my 65 years, most of which have been under Conservative governments. No sign yet of it being sold off, no sign yet of it not being free at the point of use, even though they (the Tories) have had decades to do something evil with it that you lot keep harping on about.

Perhaps they would prefer it to radically altered, but then real politics kicks in and they know they would be out of power for a very long time if they dared try it.

  


Can I correct you on the point that left wing voters were in the minority in the last election. They were actually in the majority with the combined total of labour, the libs, SNP, Plaid and Greens being around 52%. Unfortunately, our stupid electoral system interprets this as an outright win for pretty much only right wing party in Great Britain.

And the NHS is in a mess already. A 4 week wait for an appointment in Manchester is the norm. I generally just try to make do and avoid going which, considering I have ongoing health issues, is hardly ideal.
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December 4, 2019, 10:57am
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Can I correct you on the point that left wing voters were in the minority in the last election. They were actually in the majority with the combined total of labour, the libs, SNP, Plaid and Greens being around 52%. Unfortunately, our stupid electoral system interprets this as an outright win for pretty much only right wing party in Great Britain.

And the NHS is in a mess already. A 4 week wait for an appointment in Manchester is the norm. I generally just try to make do and avoid going which, considering I have ongoing health issues, is hardly ideal.


Well my post centred on the two main parties who are ever likely to form a government, but I accept your point.

Regarding the waiting times - is an ever growing population, with a lot more older people needing a lot more care and medical provision having an impact in your area?  
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There are plenty of signs of it being sold off. FFS do your homework before spouting such rubbish.
https://fullfact.org/health/NHS-privatisation/


I have just given you 65 years worth of homework, but you don't accept it which is fair enough. The scare stories about the NHS being "sold off" have been going on for years.
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I'd rather I didn't have to pay for it after you've kicked the bucket.

And yes the media is dominated by conservatives? Seems pretty obvious that.



You have such a lovely way with words...

As a matter of interest, do you think the BBC is right wing?
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December 4, 2019, 2:55pm

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You have such a lovely way with words...

As a matter of interest, do you think the BBC is right wing?


The BBC is well balanced to both sides. The comedy programmes are more than half the time dominated by left wing comics but the news and current affairs programmes are outrageously biased to the right and particularly favour the Tories.
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December 4, 2019, 3:54pm

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You have such a lovely way with words...

As a matter of interest, do you think the BBC is right wing?


I'm more interested in ensuring vulnerable and sick people avoid suffering under another 5 years of tory government than decorum m8.

On the BBC, with regards to its current affairs coverage, yes clearly. Peter Oborne agrees with me:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/03/election-coverage-bbc-tories


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