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November 25, 2019, 12:27pm

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Spurs aren’t in the EFL. Doesn’t apply in the premier league which is lucky as they always seem to have the next on lined up when there’s a sacking.



Their ball their rules!


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PS I really hope the club have checked this!


“As Wayne didn’t apply and we weren’t willing to pay Derby the compensation to trigger a release clause in his upcoming contract we didn’t think it was necessary to interview a Rooney. We hope the EFL disciplinary panel accept this as an unfortunate error and can be lenient when deciding on a punishment.”
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I don't see why anyone has a problem with the Rooney Rule.

Say, for example, that 5 credible managers are interviewed for the Grimsby job, and they're all white males. Why would it hurt to interview a 6th who's BAME? It's one extra person; he wouldn't be 'replacing' anyone.

And no one is telling us that we have to hire the BAME candidate. We'll still hire the best candidate and the final decision rests with the club.

It's so easy for us white males (and females) who have never been victims of race hate crimes to sit here and moan about something like this. But, let's be honest, we don't know what it must be like to feel ignored and overlooked because of the colour of our skin, so who are we to judge?

I just fail to see why people have such a bee in their bonnet about this. I would also presume that a BAME applicant would probably be just as qualified as anyone else, so the idea that it's a token gesture and they're somehow weaker is missing the mark.


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I don't see why anyone has a problem with the Rooney Rule.

Say, for example, that 5 credible managers are interviewed for the Grimsby job, and they're all white males. Why would it hurt to interview a 6th who's BAME? It's one extra person; he wouldn't be 'replacing' anyone.

And no one is telling us that we have to hire the BAME candidate. We'll still hire the best candidate and the final decision rests with the club.

It's so easy for us white males (and females) who have never been victims of race hate crimes to sit here and moan about something like this. But, let's be honest, we don't know what it must be like to feel ignored and overlooked because of the colour of our skin, so who are we to judge?

I just fail to see why people have such a bee in their bonnet about this. I would also presume that a BAME applicant would probably be just as qualified as anyone else, so the idea that it's a token gesture and they're somehow weaker is missing the mark.


Gosh that is condescending, isn't it? Which is one reason I am against this sort of thing.

"Oh hang about John, we have forgotten a BAME candidate so lets rustle one up asap..."

Anyone can apply, and (hopefully) we will choose the best candidate.
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November 25, 2019, 1:58pm
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Obviously there is also a rule that at every mobo awards there is a white artist in each category!!!!
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That explains why Sam Smith won so many I guess.


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Quoted from RichMariner
I don't see why anyone has a problem with the Rooney Rule.

Say, for example, that 5 credible managers are interviewed for the Grimsby job, and they're all white males. Why would it hurt to interview a 6th who's BAME? It's one extra person; he wouldn't be 'replacing' anyone.

And no one is telling us that we have to hire the BAME candidate. We'll still hire the best candidate and the final decision rests with the club.

It's so easy for us white males (and females) who have never been victims of race hate crimes to sit here and moan about something like this. But, let's be honest, we don't know what it must be like to feel ignored and overlooked because of the colour of our skin, so who are we to judge?

I just fail to see why people have such a bee in their bonnet about this. I would also presume that a BAME applicant would probably be just as qualified as anyone else, so the idea that it's a token gesture and they're somehow weaker is missing the mark.


I couldn't be arsed getting into it but you're spot on. It's also the case that BAME are hugely under represented  in management and at times have clearly been discriminated against so it makes total sense.
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Quoted from mimma
Sol Campbell was never interviewed before Jolley. H
E stated that he would take any job to get into management. Fenty made a comment along the lines of "if he wants a job he first needs to apply for one" which people took as we wanted him here.


According to the GT he was interviewed. See below link:

[url]https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sol-campbell-reveals-turned-down-1357545[/url]

Though they can be somewhat inaccurate at times...  
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Quoted from 1098
Obviously there is also a rule that at every mobo awards there is a white artist in each category!!!!


No because white people haven't spent centuries fighting against discrimination. White people haven't spent centuries fighting for fair representation.

This "we want it, just because they have it" attitude completely misses the mark.


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