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KingstonMariner
November 16, 2019, 12:57am
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Spot on Moosey.


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We have to continue the youth team conveyor belt for one - don't want an old head who sticks with his trusted senior pros and never gives youth a chance.

But yes if Carlsberg did football sackings the guy who Fenty saw to his Rolls Royce phantom, ring binders and all, is representive of a consortium who's takeover is imminent and has fresh ideas on the team they want!
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Heard today in a pub so make of it what you think ...but take over imminent and Jolly's position was part of it ......can't see it myself but that is what is being said


Very much so, heard the same from numerous sources. If it's going to happen, it will happen over the next few days. That said, if the new board / owner didn't want Jolley, you'd expect his removal to be the first order of business ONCE they'd taken over, not even slightly before.
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Very much so, heard the same from numerous sources. If it's going to happen, it will happen over the next few days. That said, if the new board / owner didn't want Jolley, you'd expect his removal to be the first order of business ONCE they'd taken over, not even slightly before.


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November 16, 2019, 10:14am
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So here we are again... back on the search for yet another manager.

Michael Jolley came with little in terms of reputation, indeed it could be said was a risky appointment by the powers that be, and the initial quotes from within club were ‘view to long term/work to change relationships/progress youth’ etc etc - for many he wasn’t/didn’t do anything wrong ...kept us in League, the odd good performance in Cup, progress initially in League position, introduction of Youth players - could be argued that on that long term ‘remit’ he was doing okay.

For others it was time for him to go..relationships with media/strained relationship with section of support, sound bytes of being unhappy with budgets, flat performances of late, disillusioned crowd, questionable formations/tactics/selection etc etc

So back to square one...but to move forward there has to be questions asked to those running the club.   What is the aim??? What are they wanting for the future of the club???

Jolley was supposedly here for  the long term - yet not 2 years in he’s no longer around and we’re back on the managerial merry go round of approaches from the usual suspects, those no longer in game but wanting an opportunity, ‘names’wanted by supporters. Go along the tried and tested route or, like Jolley, go for the untested and give a chance too.

But by letting Jolley go (mutual or not) they’re effectively going back on the long term fit as spoken of are they not?? If survival is merely the aim - then say so - it lowers expectations of support - though I’d argue a good percentage wouldn’t be happy if that was the target. Do the board ‘want’ to progress to challenging for play offs/promotion??? Surely that has to be the ultimate aim ...progress??? If you aim to survive then things quickly go stagnant, motivation goes, crowd get fed up. Attendances drop.

There was a daft quote from a board member about being in Championship in 4/5 years etc - be realistic.


If the board are open and honest, and fans can see/buy into the product - they’ll be supportive in general.

But more years of being hoodwinked, poor relationships etc and things won’t ever change until new owners - if ever - appear.


So now is a very important time for the powers that be to decide. What do they want for the club. On and off the pitch. It isn’t just simply selecting a new manager, or employing from within.


It’s about making decisions for the long term, it’s about making a statement to its small but oh so loyal support about which direction they want to go. It’s about letting that said support get reinvigorated into a project. It’s about reinvigorating the club.


Your final paragraph says everything.  Absolutely bang on the money.
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Would prefer someone who’s moving up a league rather than someone who’s dropping down.

The club has had 4 managers in just over 3 years so whoever comes in is probably better off renting than buying.


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At Moosey Club.  Eloquently put mate.  
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Just can't see it being linked to the takdover, simply because they're not football people. It's the redevelopment and regeneration they're interested in. If it ever does happen i think one of their first task will be to appoint a chief exec to run the football side for them.
Ps grim Rob the ban on posting unfounded rumours is over is it?
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The ban only stands if it sullies the name of certain non-chairmen...
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