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forza ivano
November 14, 2019, 11:43pm

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You would deny free speech?


You are missing the point. Yes the BNP are entitled to stand and Express their views (within the law obviously) but that doesn't mean you want your business/community/ club to be associated with them. It's just not a good look for a club that's keen to shake off  it's old reputation and become an inclusive community club
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November 14, 2019, 11:44pm
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You are missing the point. Yes the BNP are entitled to stand and Express their views (within the law obviously) but that doesn't mean you want your business/community/ club to be associated with them. It's just not a good look for a club that's keen to shake off  it's old reputation and become an inclusive community club


Exactly.
Which is the whole point of this discussion.



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You would deny free speech?


You're conflating free speech with the right to say whatever you like without other people being offended by it. They're not the same thing. Farage is free to go around demonising migrants, but people are also free to take and air their offence with his views. Just log off, you're making yourself look like a mug.


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To be fair I don't think it's wise for the club to rent out a room to any political party whether in an election or otherwise. The level of income gained from it would be insignificant enough to not make a valid commercial reason to do so. Poorly thought through and divisive decision by the club imho..

Though I seem to remember at the last general election that the gtfc hashtag got hijacked on Twitter by the Labour Party and its supporters as well as Corbyn flags at some of our games, but I guess it's ok for some to mix GTFC with politics as long as the colour is red. No better than the club in that regard..
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But would you deny free speech, one of the fundamental cornerstones of the British political system?


The question was around those groups been associated with club.



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You are missing the point. Yes the BNP are entitled to stand and Express their views (within the law obviously) but that doesn't mean you want your business/community/ club to be associated with them. It's just not a good look for a club that's keen to shake off  it's old reputation and become an inclusive community club


I never said anything about the BNP, apart from their right to free speech. This argument is about the Brexit party, a party that won the last UK wide election and has been unfairly  vilified on  here as some extreme racist party who should not be allowed the same courtesy as the Labour party or any other party.
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Given that the guy has an ego the size of the whole of Europe, it's possible he bought the shirt himself so he could hold it up in front of the media to show how the people of Grimsby loved him.
If someone bought it for him then they wasted their money cos I bet within five minutes of him leaving BP it was in a council bin because he doesn't give a sh.t about this  town or it's people. Self serving tw@t.















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You're conflating free speech with the right to say whatever you like without other people being offended by it. They're not the same thing. Farage is free to go around demonising migrants, but people are also free to take and air their offence with his views. Just log off, you're making yourself look like a mug.


That is the second time this evening you have resorted to insults, and it is not a good look.

You are entitled to your view as I am entitled to mine.

Edit. To be fair I did call Stadium pathetic which was a mistake. Wrong would have been better.
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I never said anything about the BNP, apart from their right to free speech. This argument is about the Brexit party, a party that won the last UK wide election and has been unfairly  vilified on  here as some extreme racist party who should not be allowed the same courtesy as the Labour party or any other party.


Chill out Nige.



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November 14, 2019, 11:53pm

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I never said anything about the BNP, apart from their right to free speech. This argument is about the Brexit party, a party that won the last UK wide election and has been unfairly  vilified on  here as some extreme racist party who should not be allowed the same courtesy as the Labour party or any other party.


But it was you that mixed up the 2 things by misunderstanding the point ,and thinking it was about denying free speech which was never the argument. I have already given you 2 easy examples of the sort of people who were part of the party and I'm pretty sure there will be many more examples, without even mentioning that infamous billboard

Ps I'd be equally as dismayed if it was Ken Livingstone or George Galloway pulling a similar stunt
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