Football Against Facism

Quoted from grimsby pete

How can we do that mate ?

Quoted from ska face

I’ll ask you again, and you can refer to chrisblor’s helpful post if you need to, do you seriously believe that migration into this country is “uncontrolled”?

Quoted from rancido

But you assume that people who want immigration controlled are against all immigration. Of course we need skilled people and we should recruit from overseas but there has to be some kind of control. I have holidayed in Bulgaria several times over the last 20 years and stay in package holiday hotels. The minimum wage in Bulgaria for 2019 is less than £4 /hour ( at current exchange rates ). You don't need to be an expert in finance and economics to realise that a hotel worker in Bulgaria can double their wages by doing the same job in the UK. Of course  our cost of living is higher but an immigrant hotel worker from Bulgaria can see that if a UK worker can live on our minimum wage then so can they. If the EU was a level playing field with the same taxation levels, welfare benefits and minimum wage applying to all member states then that would be fine and free movement of labour would not be a problem. But the way it stands now there will always be a large movement of people from the poorer countries to the wealthier ones. This not only causes a labour shortage in the poorer countries , especially skilled workers, but an increased excess in the labour force for the wealthier ones. I would imagine that there are a considerably higher number of Eastern Europeans working in the UK than there are UK workers in Eastern Europe and this imbalance will manifest itself in a lot of problems in the years to come both in the UK and the poorer EU countries.

Quoted from ska face

There’s one party currently proposing to redistribute wealth to the people who create it and rely on it, away from those who hoard it and deny the country the chance to develop in line with other advanced countries.

Quoted from grimsby pete

Yes but you said governments over the years, if Labour get in wont they be the government ?

I have lived under a few Labour governments and to be honest they are all the same the working man is no better off  whoever wins the election.

Quoted from lew chaterleys lover

I see you are trying to muddy the waters to talk about the controls on non EU countries regards immigration when the vast majority of our immigration over the last decade has come from being a member of the EU.

Quoted from GYinScuntland

Well after reading reports of boats and dinghys washed up on beaches along the south coast, intercepted in the Channel and escorted to our shores, container lorries crammed with the living and dead found in the country on a regular basis, holiday makers finding immigrants tumbling out of their cars and motor homes on arrival back in the UK, then yes, I would hazard a guess that it's not very well controlled.
Well I would if I didn't mind being labelled a raving Nazi /Fascist /Right wing Gammon.

Quoted from Chrisblor

If the UK was such an attractive destination for Bulgarians then significantly more than 3,324 of them would be emigrating here each year (on average based on immigration estimates between 2001 and 2015). There's 7 million people living in Bulgaria - 0.047% of the entire population of Bulgaria move to the UK each year - a hilariously small number. Obviously we have a stronger economy than Bulgaria and a higher minimum wage, but most Bulgarians can't speak English and have family and cultural ties that outweigh the economic benefit they'd get from moving here to work. The idea that we're somehow flooded by EU immigrants with which we can't possibly cope with cos they're draining all our resources is complete and utter balderdash.