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mariner91
November 15, 2019, 3:42pm
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Apologies for any offence caused, I thought we were debating the hypocrisy of some people who would allow one party to hold a rally but not another. If you say you would ban all parties having a meeting during an election at BP then I believe you.

I don't think that applies to other people on here though, who would be quite happy to see a Labour party meeting at BP, but not so keen on others having the same privilege.Was it the Labour party who held a rally at Blackpool FC, I wonder if there was an outcry there about that?


And yet not a single person has said they would only ban one particular party. Your argument is based on your own assumption about what others have implied.
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“Dear Mr Farage,

Thank you for your enquiry about using our function room to host a political meeting with your supporters. As a football club we try to remain politically neutral as we understand we have a wide range of political leanings from across the political spectrum amongst our fanbase. We do not wish to alienate any of our fans or be seen to be endorsing any political party.

It is therefore, with regret, that we have to reject your request to use our function room. However, we wish you the best of luck in finding another suitable venue nearby.

Yours sincerely
Grimsby Town Football Club”

That was hard wasn’t it?


If Corbyn had booked the venue, there would not have been this disquiet. That is the point.
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If Corbyn had booked the venue, there would not have been this disquiet. That is the point.


You are joking, right?
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Jesus wept, you are seriously dim. Most people, myself included, have said explicitly that they wouldn’t want the club to host any party or to be seen to endorse them because clubs should remain politically neutral when there’s such a diverse range of beliefs and views across the fanbase. The fact people have said that but you keep making the same inane, unfounded arguments anyway says a lot more about you than it does about them.
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I'd imagine Corbyn is nominally an Arsenal fan (as you'd expect from somebody who has lived in Islington for decades) but my guess is that he's really not that bothered about football. Having to attend matches at a weekend would get in the way of all sorts of protests and marches. Not a Cameron type who was so stupid, he forgot he should be pretending to support Villa instead of West Ham.


Comes across as a proper supporter in this piece on Labour's policies towards football club ownership and ticket pricing (copy German fan ownership model, increase the amount of TV money invested in grass-roots & lower league football, two fan directors on the board of every club etc) - https://www.theguardian.com/po.....ns-in-premier-league

I'm yet to hear any proposals from the Tories on football. I don't think anyone from across the entire political spectrum can suggest the current status quo, where the Premier League clubs rake in hundreds of millions each year while it becomes ever more expensive and difficult for lower league and grassroots football teams to stay afloat, can continue for much longer.


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If Corbyn had booked the venue, there would not have been this disquiet. That is the point.


There absolutely would have been. There are plenty of gtfc supporters gleefully celebrating all the 'triggered snowflakes' who are upset about Farage turning up last night. You're telling me all of those lot would simply have gone "yeah right fair enough" if Jeremy Corbyn had turned up at Blundell Park and held a town shirt up? Give over.


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It's so easy for all these posters to say the club shouldn't get involved in politics but I've lost count the number of times these same sanctimonious posters have alluded to the fact that JF is a Conservative Councillor - such irony!!


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It's so easy for all these posters to say the club shouldn't get involved in politics but I've lost count the number of times these same sanctimonious posters have alluded to the fact that JF is a Conservative Councillor - such irony!!


Fenty has an endless list of faults, but one thing I can give him credit for is the fact he doesn't use the club as a vehicle for his own politics. He's not hosting Conservative party rallies in the ground and getting Martin Vickers to hold up a town shirt during an election campaign. So no, it isn't ironic, you're just drawing a baseless comparison.


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Jesus wept, you are seriously dim. Most people, myself included, have said explicitly that they wouldn’t want the club to host any party or to be seen to endorse them because clubs should remain politically neutral when there’s such a diverse range of beliefs and views across the fanbase. The fact people have said that but you keep making the same inane, unfounded arguments anyway says a lot more about you than it does about them.


You are being wise after the event. There has been the faux outrage because it is the Brexit party, it is as simple as that.
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Jesus wept, you are seriously dim. Most people, myself included, have said explicitly that they wouldn’t want the club to host any party or to be seen to endorse them because clubs should remain politically neutral when there’s such a diverse range of beliefs and views across the fanbase. The fact people have said that but you keep making the same inane, unfounded arguments anyway says a lot more about you than it does about them.


If you said that before Farage turned up then fair play to you.
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