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mimma
November 7, 2019, 3:13pm
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My understanding of the difference between murder and manslaughter is intent.  You have to act in such a way that you know in advance of your action that you might  kill. Manslaughter on the other hand is when someone dies as a result of your action but you did not intend to kill.

I'm sure there are those on here that can clarify it better than me, and some that can in Latin!
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The only Latin one I can think of (and I bet I'm a million miles out with the right words, spelling etc)

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Agree very difficult to provide intent ,more likely to be downgraded to manslaughter.


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Quoted from mimma
My understanding of the difference between murder and manslaughter is intent.  You have to act in such a way that you know in advance of your action that you might  kill. Manslaughter on the other hand is when someone dies as a result of your action but you did not intend to kill.

I'm sure there are those on here that can clarify it better than me, and some that can in Latin!


Exactly! Mens rea.

Did he mean when he discharged his taser, to kill the chap?. Pretty obviously not.

Did his firing his taser kill him? Medical evidence (PM) may well say it did or at least it contibuted so manslaughter is a possibility but surely provided he followed all the rules about using a taser then no court should convict him or no sodomist will want to carry one (bit like firearms teams)

However if he didn't follow the rules then a conviction for manslaughter will be a possibility, unlikely though I sincerly hope


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My thought is and it is only a thought is did he fire his taser more then once,

The first one would have disabled him so no need to fire again,

Like I said its only a thought.

I know nothing !!!!!


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Murder is premeditated manslaughter is not. Differ in various countries
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Quoted from grimsby pete
My thought is and it is only a thought is did he fire his taser more then once,

The first one would have disabled him so no need to fire again,

Like I said its only a thought.

I know nothing !!!!!


Not necessarily Pete-only last month a thug had to be tasered 3 times before he was out-so it would have been attempted murder twice. I'd shoot the illegitimates to make sure instead of taser.
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Quoted from grimsby pete
My thought is and it is only a thought is did he fire his taser more then once,

The first one would have disabled him so no need to fire again,

Like I said its only a thought.

I know nothing !!!!!


They don’t fire twice, once the prongs are out they are out. It’s hit or miss
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They don’t fire twice, once the prongs are out they are out. It’s hit or miss


So maybe more than one officer fired. Golfer reports an incident where the police fired three times. He won't be reporting fake news would he.

In the same way that we shouldn't pre-judge the police in this case, we shouldn't pre-judge the prosecution either should we? We should trust in good old British courts. 12 peers in a jury will make the final decision. I mean, people have fought hard to defend British justice from those nefarious foreigners in the EU. We should trust it and allow it to run its course.


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Maybe this thread could be forwarded to the court for their consideration. Granted, as Pete says, it may be important for the court to hear the evidence at some stage, but in the meantime the jury would at least have some food for thought.


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