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grimsby pete
October 23, 2019, 11:53am

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We have seen Town play different formations using different players with mixed results.

So what is the way forward ?

My view is I would be happy if MJ plays the same formation he used at Cambridge at away games but he can not do that when at home.
If he let the opposition have 70% of the ball at home the fans will soon drop off .

Wright and Robson have been unfit for the last few games so they might make a difference myself I would put them in if fit but I would also like to see Ogbu in for Hanson.
I must say Hanson has done nothing wrong and works hard but the service he has received has been very poor and when he does get a ball on his head there is not a town player anywhere near him most of the time.
Playing Moses in that role for a while might make us play more on the ground he is better holding the ball up and laying it off than he is on the wing.

There many ways we can play at home and I do like the 3 centre backs because it gives Pollock a chance to show how good he is at 18. Hendrie and Gibson showed us a little attacking options last night that could be more effective at home and with some more practice.

I would also like us to stick to just 2 formations one for home and one for away games that way the players will know their roles a lot more than when they are asked to do 4 or 5 or however many.

Lets stick to a settle team when we can and if the game is not going our way we have always the option of bring on Hanson to go long.

MJ said we are going for it this season so if we are to challenge for promotion we need a couple more players in and if one of them is a left winger who can get to the bye line and put the ball on Hanson's head we could be up there at the end of the season.

Anyway that's my view have you got any that could be used to make us more consistent ?


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I would hope we would be looking to improve in Jan if we are genuine about looking for the play offs.
I fear however that we have reached our natural level (mid table league 2) as we stand.
I can’t see that changing without major investment from somewhere.  
Changing managers will achieve nothing IMHO. We are where we are and will be for the foreseeable future I reckon.
Having been a regular this season I will be picking and choosing my games from now on.
Not given up on Town and never will.  However, I think I’ve finally accepted the harsh reality.
Until of course the beginning of next season when once again I will be full of false optimism.
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October 23, 2019, 12:29pm

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I was going to start a post about his lack of options.we have a squad of 23 including 3 keepers.2 of the 20 outfield players are injured whilst 4 (clifton, vernham, ring and cardwell) have been shown up as ' emergency use only'. That leaves 14 of which 3 (Hendrie, green and whitehouse) are desperately out of form.
All in all there's no wonder he's having to put square pegs in round holes and is constantly tinkering
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There's a lack of options but he's created that problem himself.

There's not a single player in the squad that he hasn't either signed or given a new contract too.  There's an argument that it's very much about nothingness at this level but with the exception of Hanson and maybe Hewitt, is there anything different that he brought into the squad this summer.  Is Whitehouse any different from Clifton, Green any different from Cook?  In Gibson, he's definitely made an improvement in that area.

Two players have been highlighted as ones we miss - Robson and Wright. Robson was signed after the season started and Wright has been used sparingly even before his injury.  I don't believe that Jolley's summer planning was based around a lad who was on loan at Boston last season and a lad he hadn't even signed yet.  

A big issue in my eyes is that there's too many bit part players in the squad.  Players who drift in and out without having any real impact (especially in the long term).  In attack we've got 3 of those in Cook, Cardwell and Vernam.  On paper it looks a strong bench but really are any of those going to change it if they come on?  I like Cook but Jolley doesn't seem too keen, Vernam looks destined to just drift down the levels whereas the decision to give Cardwell an 18-month deal last season looks more bizarre with every passing moment.  

According to Cod Almighty the following players are out of contract next summer:

Russell;
Davis, Ring;
Hessenthaler, Whitehouse, Wright;
Vernam, Cardwell, Cook, Ogbu

I personally think Jolley needs to look at shipping out the majority of those in January to free up funds and bring in some fresh and genuine alternative options if we want to do anything than float around mid-table.  
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October 23, 2019, 1:53pm

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Maybe he had to make choices because of budget constraints? Hamson, green, mckeown,waterfall, hendrie and hess are all costing a fair amount of money. hes gone for a smaller squad with what he hoped was better quality. Nobody would be guessed that it's the 3 youngsters who tend to impress the most whilst the likes of shitehouse,green, vernham, Clifton and Hendrix have all been pretty poor
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Quoted from diehardmariner

Green any different from Cook?  


Sorry but this part I do not agree with. Green and Cook are completely different players. One can actually control the ball for a start. (No prizes for guessing which one).

I would argue Green is an entity unto himself, not to be compared with normal professional footballers. Not seen a player who has as excrement control since LJL was smacking them miles over the Pontoon.
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Quoted from forza ivano
Maybe he had to make choices because of budget constraints? Hamson, green, mckeown,waterfall, hendrie and hess are all costing a fair amount of money. hes gone for a smaller squad with what he hoped was better quality. Nobody would be guessed that it's the 3 youngsters who tend to impress the most whilst the likes of shitehouse,green, vernham, Clifton and Hendrix have all been pretty poor


Hardly surprising with his lifestyle


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I don’t understand this idea that Clifton has suddenly become not up to the standard.
He’s struggled for form and with injuries this season, but he absolutely showed last year he’s a league footballer. He’s far superior to Hewitt and Whitehouse.
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I don’t understand this idea that Clifton has suddenly become not up to the standard.
He’s struggled for form and with injuries this season, but he absolutely showed last year he’s a league footballer. He’s far superior to Hewitt and Whitehouse.


Think it's just become an easy trend to follow by saying this hasn't it.

He's been in and out with injury and being away a few times with the Wales international set-up. Hasn't had a chance to get going really yet.

If he hasn't progressed this season, he certainly hasn't gone backwards as I've seen some people suggest.


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Quoted from forza ivano
Maybe he had to make choices because of budget constraints? Hamson, green, mckeown,waterfall, hendrie and hess are all costing a fair amount of money. hes gone for a smaller squad with what he hoped was better quality. Nobody would be guessed that it's the 3 youngsters who tend to impress the most whilst the likes of shitehouse,green, vernham, Clifton and Hendrix have all been pretty poor


I don't think there's any credit to be gained in calling a player Shitehouse, especially bearing in mind what he went through last season. I suspect we will never see the best of him - and it's not for the lack of effort.
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