Bulgaria v England

Quoted from 139881

Its only really banned in countries which Germany occupied during the war (inc. Switzerland and Israel)

I assume you mean as well as rather than “inc”?

Latest from UEFA:
Bulgaria have been charged for the events last night.
England have also been charged with "disrupting the nation anthem "

You couldn't make it up!

Not sure if it has already been mentioned on this thread but allegedly Official 'spotters' saw Bulgarian stewards and stadium security 'remove their bibs before racially abusing England's black players, shocking if true.

Quoted from mimma

Latest from UEFA:
Bulgaria have been charged for the events last night.
England have also been charged with "disrupting the nation anthem "

You couldn't make it up!

The two 'offences' are of course vastly different so hopefully the penalities / fines will reflect that, but we can't female dog and moan about UEFA and then expect them to ignore something (however trivial in our eyes) from the England fans

Quoted from Ipswin

The two 'offences' are of course vastly different so hopefully the penalities / fines will reflect that, but we can't female dog and moan about UEFA and then expect them to ignore something (however trivial in our eyes) from the England fans

Whilst I agree with your sentiments swin, the England fans purely reacted to the Bulgarian fans after they jeered, booed and changed right through our anthem...it was mammary for tat and in reality UEFA didn't bring that to the table, ultimately they've bottled it by not going straight for the jugular and chucking Bulgaria out the finals, and while I'm on it, Montenegro should have gone too,...why girl private foot about around these nations that have vast majority of racist fans, yes we have the small minority of racially aggravated problems through the England's fan base but I cannot remember the last time we had these problems in one of our stadiums..

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Whilst I agree with your sentiments swin, the England fans purely reacted to the Bulgarian fans after they jeered, booed and changed right through our anthem...it was mammary for tat and in reality UEFA didn't bring that to the table, ultimately they've bottled it by not going straight for the jugular and chucking Bulgaria out the finals, and while I'm on it, Montenegro should have gone too,...why girl private foot about around these nations that have vast majority of racist fans, yes we have the small minority of racially aggravated problems through the England's fan base but I cannot remember the last time we had these problems in one of our stadiums..

You may be right. You wouldn’t get it at Wmberlee but not because fans here are avowed anti-racists. It’s simply practical because there is no other country to have a go at. It would be ludicrous even for an ardent England racist to have a go at a black French bloke or an African team when there are so many black players now in the England squad. So our fans content themselves with No Surrender or The Great Escape and anything else anti-German. I think they call that “banter”.

What you say about Bulgaria just proves my point earlier in this thread. As soon as there was a threat of being chucked out the finger pointing started about the national anthem and UEFA backed off from a ban straightaway.

Quoted from Northbank Mariner

Whilst I agree with your sentiments swin, the England fans purely reacted to the Bulgarian fans after they jeered, booed and changed right through our anthem...it was mammary for tat and in reality UEFA didn't bring that to the table, ultimately they've bottled it by not going straight for the jugular and chucking Bulgaria out the finals, and while I'm on it, Montenegro should have gone too,...why girl private foot about around these nations that have vast majority of racist fans, yes we have the small minority of racially aggravated problems through the England's fan base but I cannot remember the last time we had these problems in one of our stadiums..

One small point, Bulgaria aren't going to the finals, they are bottom of the league.

Quoted from TheRonRaffertyFanClub

As soon as there was a threat of being chucked out the finger pointing started about the national anthem

Of course it did, just as it would have started here if we had been in Bulgaria's position. England fans always abuse the opposition anthem in some way or other - yes even, or rather especially, at Wembley when we outnumber the visitors.

It's a mere nothing of course compared to racist behaviour but it is against UEFA rules and we all want UEFA to enforce their rules don't we?

Which makes you have to wonder, just what sort of a male private do you have to be to boo somebody else's national anthem? What's the point?

Quoted from arryarryarry

One small point, Bulgaria aren't going to the finals, they are bottom of the league.

Splitting hairs there arry, you know what the sentiment was, UEFA should have had the gusto to throw them out the competition, tell them to sort their act ready for the world cup qualifiers...which, yes I know us a FIFA competition...then get FIFA onside as to act accordingly should such behaviour be repeated during any, home or away, qualifying fixture.