Boston flipping united

Getting a new ground for Christ sake why not us

Just seen it on look Hull tbf it looks ok

Why would we want a new ground in Boston

Quoted from crusty ole pie

Getting a new ground for Christ sake why not us

Because we haven’t got the money.

Quoted from Teesknees

Why would we want a new ground in Boston

Cos we can't get one round here     

Joking apart I also saw it on "Look North", early stages with just the steel work going up at the moment but it looks half decent for a club the size of Boston.

To be fair, that dump they’re in right now makes Blundell Park look like the San Siro.

I know what you mean, though. I’m sick of the whole new ground thing with us as it’ll never happen.

The new ground has been signposted off one of the main roads through Boston for quite some time, have seen the sign off one of the roundabouts when driving through for a couple of years at least but the exit was blocked off and the road not finished.

To be honest is there actually anyone on here who really believes we are even close to getting a new ground ? As it stands we have no single rubber stamped site of preference, no planning, no finance and seemingly no political will to help ease it along.
Despite all the promises made down the years by individuals, consultants, councillors we are still years away from a new home, if even at all.

Do we even know what the clubs preference is, is  JF still saying PP is his preferred site ?  

Miss playing Boston though, cracking away day if a bit of a manufactured derby. There big standing away end was quality, rest of ground cack though.

That being said, id rather be in a much higher division than 'the likes of them'.

Where did they get the money from to do it?

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

Where did they get the money from to do it?

they were refurbing Steve Evans old office and found a wad of cash under the floorboards..

Well nice for them not having to play in a dump next to a petrol station. It seems they delivered a viable plan,have support to build retail and community facilities and the local council on board. All things we lack right now.

I just don't think anyone wants to seriously invest the time and money in GTFC right now. The best chance we had for a new stadium was blown years ago by the council bumbling around to please a few whinging old villagers. Nobody can even agree on where to put a stadium, a plan is submitted,drawings made and then everyone finds a reason why it can't go there. "No it'd be better here!" is what they say no matter where it is. We are probably still 20 years away from a new stadium if at all.

I wouldn’t get too excited, it’s yet another plastic, semi-out of town stadium along similar lines to York’s new ground which is frankly horrific in its soullessness:

https://www.yorkcityfootballclub.co.uk/news/photo-gallery-community-stadium

I may be on my own but I don’t mind York Street. Like Bootham Crescent (not to mention Blundell Park) the facilities are poor but as a footballing ‘experience’ it’s far superior to what the new ground will offer.

New stadiums can be great, but they have to be ‘right’. Ask fans of Coventry, Darlington et al. We need one if we’re ever going to progress as a club but it has to be in the right location (i.e. Freemo or the docks) and not be a shìt, soulless breezeock exhibition that so many new grounds are these days.

The cost of building a stadium the size that Boston need, is relatively small compared to what Town need in terms of size and league requirements.

The biggest problem Town has is finding a suitable location. Boston is surrounded by land, where as Grimsby is on the coast which means that there is less land close to the town to build on.

Quoted from Poojah

I wouldn’t get too excited, it’s yet another plastic, semi-out of town stadium along similar lines to York’s new ground which is frankly horrific in its soullessness:

https://www.yorkcityfootballclub.co.uk/news/photo-gallery-community-stadium

I may be on my own, but I don’t mind York Street. Like Bootham Crescent (not to mention Blundell Park) the facilities are poor but as a footballing ‘experience’ it’s far superior to what the new ground will offer.

New stadiums can be great, but they have to be ‘right’. Ask fans of Coventry, Darlington et al. We need one if we’re ever going to progress as a club but it has to be in the right location (i.e. Freemo or the docks) and not be a shìt, soulless breezeock exhibition that so many new grounds are these days.

You're not.
York St, Bootham Cr and many other now lost "old school" footy grounds such as Saltergate, Millmoor, Feethams were in the centre of good drinking towns, near the train station, full of atmosphere and a cracking away day.

Saw that on look north did not look bad tbf they even metioned Hulls stadium and Scunthorpe n Lincolns planned new Stadiums.

We are miles/years behind and always will be in that regard it was only ever a pipe dream.

Quoted from GYinScuntland

You're not.
York St, Bootham Cr and many other now lost "old school" footy grounds such as Saltergate, Millmoor, Feethams were in the centre of good drinking towns, near the train station, full of atmosphere and a cracking away day.

We're losing them at an alarming rate too. Griffin Park and Kenilworth Road will both be gone soon, which are two of the best.

Quoted from mimma

The cost of building a stadium the size that Boston need, is relatively small compared to what Town need in terms of size and league requirements.

The biggest problem Town has is finding a suitable location. Boston is surrounded by land, where as Grimsby is on the coast which means that there is less land close to the town to build on.

The biggest problem is not finding a suitable location, it's having the finance to fulfil any pipedream that's been cruelly presented to the fans over the years. Only raises expectations way beyond the bleak reality of our present circumstances.. and another decade gets ticked off.. and another.. and another..

Had a look through the 91 clubs and we must be one of only a dozen left who haven't got a new stadium, haven't redeveloped their ground or got existing facilities that suit their requirements. Premier League (Everton, Bournemouth, Palace looking to relocate), Championship (Fulham looking to relocate, Luton and Brentford building new stadiums), League One (Coventry homeless, Bristol Rovers and Lincoln City looking to relocate, Southend new stadium on its way), League Two (Newport, Cambridge, Town and Oldham in desperate need of new facilities).

We're one of the very few who still have decrepit facilities compared to the rest..

Quoted from Bigdog

Had a look through the 91 clubs and we must be one of only a dozen left who haven't got a new stadium, haven't redeveloped their ground or got existing facilities that suit their requirements. Premier League (Everton, Bournemouth, Palace looking to relocate), Championship (Fulham looking to relocate, Luton and Brentford building new stadiums), League One (Coventry homeless, Bristol Rovers and Lincoln City looking to relocate, Southend new stadium on its way), League Two (Newport, Cambridge, Town and Oldham in desperate need of new facilities).

We're one of the very few who still have decrepit facilities compared to the rest..

Ive only been to the Oldham ground twice.... once in the 80-81 season and again last season

Given how their ground has definitely been improved in that period of time, from where they were back then, I'd not say they are in desperate need

When you look at all the other clubs in the league, you have to ask the question "why has the majority of clubs redevelped when we can't or won't?"

Quoted from mimma

The cost of building a stadium the size that Boston need, is relatively small compared to what Town need in terms of size and league requirements.

The biggest problem Town has is finding a suitable location. Boston is surrounded by land, where as Grimsby is on the coast which means that there is less land close to the town to build on.

Is that before or after it floods from the North Sea?

The state of BP and the apathy and cheap talk of all involved in it has grinded my gears for years now but in reality even if we moved to a swish new home how many home supporters would we get week in week out?

Quoted from HertsGTFC

The state of BP and the apathy and cheap talk of all involved in it has grinded my gears for years now but in reality even if we moved to a swish new home how many home supporters would we get week in week out?

I think a new,modern stadium would be a boost to morale among fans and the club. It'd be more attractive to young people who don't have the same attachments and nostalgia for GTFC and Blundell Park. I think it'd be a start in boosting numbers and sustainability of support. A nice looking ground with modern facilities with a retail park and facilities for young people to get involved in football would do a lot for the town and club.

As for all this talk of "soulless" grounds outside of the town centre I think expansion is important and it needs the space to add extra facilities and make it the centre of everything about the club. A lot of people seem to have an opinion on what they want and it's based on nostalgia over practicality. It's probably one of the reasons why we can't move forward because we have all these pipe dreams of Freeman Street and the docks where there just isn't the space for what we need. The reasons people support it have nothing to do with it being good for the club, it's just good for their own nostalgia where they can see the docks renovated and look forth at the dock tower as the game is on and remember the good old days. There is plenty of land around the area but for some it seems like town centre or nothing.

We're losing them at an alarming rate too. Griffin Park and Kenilworth Road will both be gone soon, which are two of the best.

Kenilworth Road....one of the worst grounds I’ve ever visited and in a horrible area/environment

Is it next year that will be the 25th anniversary of a new ground being announced?

Quoted from Kris2

As for all this talk of "soulless" grounds outside of the town centre I think expansion is important and it needs the space to add extra facilities and make it the centre of everything about the club. A lot of people seem to have an opinion on what they want and it's based on nostalgia over practicality. It's probably one of the reasons why we can't move forward because we have all these pipe dreams of Freeman Street and the docks where there just isn't the space for what we need. The reasons people support it have nothing to do with it being good for the club, it's just good for their own nostalgia where they can see the docks renovated and look forth at the dock tower as the game is on and remember the good old days. There is plenty of land around the area but for some it seems like town centre or nothing.

Nonsense. The Blundell Park footprint actually fits into the area available now, bordered by Thesiger, Garibaldi, Albion and Albert Street. With the Findus and Main Stand extended the full length of the pitch, the capacity would be around 12,000, which is more than adequate for the third and fourth division.

The Freemen obviously think it possible to relocate the people living on Thesiger Walk. With those houses gone, there would be a huge site up to Kent Street.

Quoted from Kris2

Well nice for them not having to play in a dump next to a petrol station. It seems they delivered a viable plan,have support to build retail and community facilities and the local council on board. All things we lack right now.

I just don't think anyone wants to seriously invest the time and money in GTFC right now. The best chance we had for a new stadium was blown years ago by the council bumbling around to please a few whinging old villagers. Nobody can even agree on where to put a stadium, a plan is submitted,drawings made and then everyone finds a reason why it can't go there. "No it'd be better here!" is what they say no matter where it is. We are probably still 20 years away from a new stadium if at all.

What we need are friends on the council for a change

Quoted from golfer

What we need are friends on the council for a change

It makes no sodding difference if we haven't got the money to pay for a new stadium. Ultimately, whatever the pros and cons of the various sites, and the views of the council, it isn't going to happen until somehow solves the question of where the money is going to come from.

Our best chance of funding the stadium went 18(?) years ago when the Great Coates site was first rejected. Since then it's been a Pyewipe dream. Peaks Parkway was never going to get us within fundable distance of a new stadium - there were never going to be enough houses sold at Grimsby prices to make a big enough profit for a developer to pay enough money.

Quoted from ponnyfan

Kenilworth Road....one of the worst grounds I’ve ever visited and in a horrible area/environment

It definitely splits opinion. People seem to love it or hate it. It's probably my favourite ground in the country, though. Great acoustics/atmosphere, best entrance to an away end, unique stands. When people talk about old grounds with character then it's hard to find better. Don't buy the horrible area/environment argument either. It's just surrounded by terraced houses like a lot of the best grounds.

Quoted from Son of Cod

It definitely splits opinion. People seem to love it or hate it. It's probably my favourite ground in the country, though. Great acoustics/atmosphere, best entrance to an away end, unique stands. When people talk about old grounds with character then it's hard to find better. Don't buy the horrible area/environment argument either. It's just surrounded by terraced houses like a lot of the best grounds.

I always liked Peterborough's London Road away end for the acoustics when we had a good following.... maybe not better but I'd argue just as good

Not sure though with their ground being redeveloped whether this one stands the test of time or not?  Do they have any relocation plans by the way? Can't think I've seen any at all?  

Don't think it's the stadium itself that is soulless. It's the fans that go that determin the atmosphere.  So long as it is not too big with big empty spaces I'm sure Town fans will create a decent atmosphere.

Quoted from golfer

What we need are friends on the council for a change

It doesn't help that the council's head of regeneration still says that Peaks Parkway is the best place for a new stadium. Mr Fenty has shown no enthusiasm for the East Marsh, despite the Freemen's excellent vision.

Quoted from White_shorts

It doesn't help that the council's head of regeneration still says that Peaks Parkway is the best place for a new stadium. Mr Fenty has shown no enthusiasm for the East Marsh, despite the Freemen's excellent vision.

And he has never explained how it can be afforded at his preferred site either. Why he doesn’t just give it up I don’t know. The council approved the site and just needed a planning application - the fact one was never made suggests it wasn’t financially viable.

Quoted from Kris2

I think a new,modern stadium would be a boost to morale among fans and the club. It'd be more attractive to young people who don't have the same attachments and nostalgia for GTFC and Blundell Park. I think it'd be a start in boosting numbers and sustainability of support. A nice looking ground with modern facilities with a retail park and facilities for young people to get involved in football would do a lot for the town and club.

As for all this talk of "soulless" grounds outside of the town centre I think expansion is important and it needs the space to add extra facilities and make it the centre of everything about the club. A lot of people seem to have an opinion on what they want and it's based on nostalgia over practicality. It's probably one of the reasons why we can't move forward because we have all these pipe dreams of Freeman Street and the docks where there just isn't the space for what we need. The reasons people support it have nothing to do with it being good for the club, it's just good for their own nostalgia where they can see the docks renovated and look forth at the dock tower as the game is on and remember the good old days. There is plenty of land around the area but for some it seems like town centre or nothing.

Sorry but that is utter rubbish I have supported GTFC over fiffty years and WANT us to move to a new ground.

B.P. is a sad shadow of it's former self. No Nostalgia just sorry to say the young fans will NEVER see a home crowd of 10k plus and the sort of atmosphere/noise that goes with it.

No nostalgia trip from me we need a new stadium that is up to date and not a fecking eye sore.

I challenge anyone to enter the ground from Harrington Street and feel happy with what they see dog excrement and all.

When our only cinema was down Freemo, people would travel to Scunny or Hull to watch a film rather than go down Freemo to the old decrepit run down flea pit.

Once a new up to date cinema was built up Cleethorpes they stopped travelling and used this new cinema.

If you want to attract families and new fans of today, you have to offer them a better matchday experience, which Blundell Park, for all its nostalgia, cannot give them.

It will also make more money and help us attract better players to the area.

So their new stadium costs 11.5m how comes they can finance that?

That's a very good question Swansea Mariner.It is now a majority of clubs in the football league, as well as some non league clubs have financed major redevelopment of their facilities.

What is it that is stopping us?

Perhaps we could make a transfer offer for their Board  

Quoted from Swansea_Mariner

So their new stadium costs 11.5m how comes they can finance that?

It is all part of a wider development titled The Quadrant.

Part of the deal for the other building works is a community stadium. A large part of the delay in starting the stadium build was ensuring all funding was secured.

The Malkinson family who own the ground are kicking Boston out at the end of the season which has probably pushed it along somewhat too.

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Sorry but that is utter rubbish I have supported GTFC over fiffty years and WANT us to move to a new ground.

B.P. is a sad shadow of it's former self. No Nostalgia just sorry to say the young fans will NEVER see a home crowd of 10k plus and the sort of atmosphere/noise that goes with it.

No nostalgia trip from me we need a new stadium that is up to date and not a fecking eye sore.

I
I challenge anyone to enter the ground from Harrington Street and feel happy with what they see dog excrement and all.

could not agree more I shudder with embarrassment every time I go past on the train and so wish john Fenty would get up his ladders with a can of creosote in his hand
Yes if I am still around when we move yes I will shed a tear for the memories of the my past friends and family and smile for the great times in one go but it is time we moved to a  facility that the younger generation want to come to

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Sorry but that is utter rubbish I have supported GTFC over fiffty years and WANT us to move to a new ground.

B.P. is a sad shadow of it's former self. No Nostalgia just sorry to say the young fans will NEVER see a home crowd of 10k plus and the sort of atmosphere/noise that goes with it.

No nostalgia trip from me we need a new stadium that is up to date and not a fecking eye sore.

I challenge anyone to enter the ground from Harrington Street and feel happy with what they see dog excrement and all.

As much as I've loved our ground over the years, I think it truly lost its heart when the Barratt was pulled down. It used to be a terrifying ground for the opposition to play in when all the stands were the same level and height; an intensity to the atmosphere that we've never really recaptured. We've obviously had some great moments, post-1980, but nothing will compare with nights like the Everton or Wolves games (night games, in particular, always seemed just a little bit more exciting, too).

Personally I can't wait for us to go to a new ground.

Quoted from tanga_the_indestructible

As much as I've loved our ground over the years, I think it truly lost its heart when the Barratt was pulled down. It used to be a terrifying ground for the opposition to play in when all the stands were the same level and height; an intensity to the atmosphere that we've never really recaptured. We've obviously had some great moments, post-1980, but nothing will compare with nights like the Everton or Wolves games (night games, in particular, always seemed just a little bit more exciting, too).

Personally I can't wait for us to go to a new ground.

Never mind the opposition. It used to terrify me when the Barratt Stand used to move  

.....and the river of urine that ran down the old barrat terracing lol.

Plus side how many kids managed to sneek through the rotten wooden planks at the back without paying lol.

Only one individual to blame for our club not advancing in any way.

Quoted from TAGG

Only one individual to blame for our club not advancing in any way.

Tom Shutes ?  

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

.....and the river of urine that ran down the old barrat terracing lol.

Plus side how many kids managed to sneek through the rotten wooden planks at the back without paying lol.

I learned early on not to stand too near the crash barrier halfway down the stand. 'Why's someone spilt hot orangejuice down there grandad?'