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Bigdog
October 2, 2019, 9:57am
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Vernam is a very good player who missed most of pre-season with an inury, and due to us having a decent start, is down the pecking order for now. He wont let us down if he gets a start in this team once he has some game time under his belt..
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Afraid he's one of those enigmas, we've all seen there's a good player in there somewhere but never really shown the promise he appeared to have during his loan period since signing permanently for us...
Although MJ speaks highly of him he's obviously down the pecking order when it comes to the starting 11...plus he drifts in and out of games and certainly doesn't have the work rate of Cook and others..


It would be criminal to rule out Vernam IMO.
Very very good player, but hasn't had a run in the team

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73 minutes out of 990...

He is 22, and should definitely be getting more of a chance IMO

But, whilst we are doing well, and sit 7th, it's hard to see when that will happen
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People have been very patient with Vernam for over a year now. He was injured at Derby, he has had a number of injuries here and has struggled to get match fit. That much we can sympathise with. But when he gets on the field he starts like wildfire and then burns out very quickly. Even when he has had a few games or parts of games on the bounce he has not been consistent.

Definitely a good player. I thought when he came he was ideal for the role Cook is now playing but he is just not capable of the stamina needed to do the fetch and carry bit and as a provider out wide would we really leave out Max Wright to play Vernam?

I do hope I'm wrong in this because he does have talent.


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I have read a number of times people think he will be an important player for us this season. I would say I think he will be a peripheral figure I'm afraid. That's not to say he might not get some important goals or assists on occasional appearances as he has ability. I just can't see him nailing down a place as he doesn't have consistency to perform well across a number of games or across 90 mins if started to be honest.

I thought he played well when he came on at oldham but we were on the front foot by then. I do remember him getting a rollicking from Hanson for not closing down as well.

If we are to challenge at the top end we need better than him in the first 11, or he needs to improve consistency, in my opinion. Good squad player tho.
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It would be criminal to rule out Vernam IMO.
Very very good player, but hasn't had a run in the team

He minutes for each league game, starting from most recent are
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73 minutes out of 990...

He is 22, and should definitely be getting more of a chance IMO

But, whilst we are doing well, and sit 7th, it's hard to see when that will happen


Told you so, the guy has stood out from the moment he joined on loan, and maybe due to poor management, he never got to consistently show us, and now he has...
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Told you so, the guy has stood out from the moment he joined on loan, and maybe due to poor management, he never got to consistently show us, and now he has...


And apart from his injury, you were spot on.

Perhaps people didn't take much notice of somebody, who claims 'Jarmo is God?'  



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And apart from his injury, you were spot on.

Perhaps people didn't take much notice of somebody, who claims 'Jarmo is God?'  



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Vernam is a very good player who missed most of pre-season with an inury, and due to us having a decent start, is down the pecking order for now. He wont let us down if he gets a start in this team once he has some game time under his belt..

Good call Bigdog.


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Not to decry anything Ollie is doing as he is a complete breath of fresh air, but he probably has a bit more of an advantage over previous managers as not only has he put his own money into the club,which I assume some was used to bring in some of January’s players, but he no matter what happens this season was never going to be sacked, so he can experiment a bit, like last night, to see which players he wants to keep for next season, how versatile they are etc. Whereas previous managers are always looking over their shoulders awaiting the dreaded vote of confidence from the chairman( or non chairman) if results are poor.
  Who knows though, probably because Ollie can experiment or he is just a bloody good manager the players do not get complacent as nobodies starting place is guaranteed.
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Yes good calls Jarmo.Is.God and Bigdog.   Going against the tide of opinion.

There are plenty of talented players that don’t make it.  Really good that Ollie has got the very best out of Vernam.  Especially as he had stamina issues and had a history of playing an average of only about 20 mins a game - when he did get a game.

You can’t keep a good player down.  All this from playing for Chorley recently.  
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