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Heisenberg
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Remember them? 71 EFL chairmen will vote next week on whether they should be reinstated next season. I just wondered, what’s your gut feeling about this? Will the football family show sympathy or go for the throat?

Even if they’re reinstated, they still haven’t been purchased/rescued - can you imagine if they were reinstated and STILL went bust?! The EFL would look ridiculous then.

It will be fascinating. I wonder how Town will vote?
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Other teams have been kicked out of the league for the same problems so I see no reason to let them back in let them win promotion to get back .

Unless if they get voted in it means the Scunts go down.  


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No question. Let em go. Won't do any good reinstating them, and possibly do more harm in the long run. If the likes of Rotherham, Leicester and Pompey had been disciplined properly (like Luton were) then a lot of the present troubles could have been nipped in the bud. And when you think what we've been through complying with the rules, re-instatement would be unfair.

As for the Bury fans, well they'll have a chance to re-found a club which they'll have control of and be able to avoid this happening again. If they stick by it in anything like present numbers they should soon progress through the pyramid. Maybe FC United can return the favour and let them share their ground. Or there's Oldham who could do with a few quid. Plenty of options around Manchester.


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I can see the championship and L1 all voting for them to stay in as it does not effect them directly and if it happens to them in the future they can use this as a way out.
L2 clubs will vote them out as it would mean two go down this season.
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Let them go

Other clubs who should have been let go and this situation would not have happened include

Leeds
Hull
Rotherham
Portsmouth
West Ham for cheating
Chelsea for hoovering up players and letting them out on loan
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As it has already been flagged up over the last few weeks, I suspect that the EFL will vote to re-admit Bury into Div 2.  A short-sighted and wrong decision in my opinion. They are victims of their own downfall.

I think that clubs may well vote to keep them in the league for selfish reasons.  It could be their own club in a similar position in the future..

Older fans will remember the annual vote to retain the bottom 4 clubs in the old Div 4 who had to apply for re-election.It was rare for a club to be voted into NL.  (Including Grimsby who survived a vote). Turkeys don't vote for xmas.
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It’s a real tricky one this. In an ideal world, it would be the crooks who have destroyed the club who would be punished, not the fans.

Sadly, it’s the the opposite that seems to be true.


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Has there ever been a case of a club taking a season off before? A complete farce, AFC Bury should be kicking off in Step 4 next season.


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there seems to be a lot of disparity when it comes to issues regarding financial affairs and regulations.

how can "bigger clubs" get points taken off (Leicester etc) after falling into financial distress, yet teams like (the proper) Wimbledon, Aldershot, darlington get stripped of their league status

football is losing faith in the people that care about it.


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In reality letting them back into League 2 would not work unless they have real cash.

They’d effectively be a new club on and off the pitch and a new team made up of what would be journeymen and kids so coming in at that “professional” level would be a massive challenge to sustain.

Though I really feel for their loyal support they’d be better off from building further down the pyramid.



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The last team kicked out the FL was Maidstone and that was 27 years ago


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In reality letting them back into League 2 would not work unless they have real cash.

They’d effectively be a new club on and off the pitch and a new team made up of what would be journeymen and kids so coming in at that “professional” level would be a massive challenge to sustain.

Though I really feel for their loyal support they’d be better off from building further down the pyramid.




That’s a good point; who on earth would sign for them next season? Hardly without financial risk.
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Quoted from WOZOFGRIMSBY
there seems to be a lot of disparity when it comes to issues regarding financial affairs and regulations.

how can "bigger clubs" get points taken off (Leicester etc) after falling into financial distress, yet teams like (the proper) Wimbledon, Aldershot, darlington get stripped of their league status

football is losing faith in the people that care about it.


The (alleged) difference is that the clubs kicked out of the FL couldn't demonstrate they could meet their obligations for the season when they had an act of insolvency. Bolton, Leicester, Portsmouth etc apparently could when they had their rescue deals. I'm sceptical about the robustness of the process personally, but that's the official rationale.

Wimbledon was a different case. Their league position was taken over by another 'franchise' in effect. They weren't in admin. AFC Wimbledon was a new club, founded when 'Wimbledon FC' were still in existence, so they started from lower down the pyramid, as did the new Aldershot and Maidstone (and Darlo).

Darlo were already outside the FL when they went bust. The Conference has always been stricter than the FL.


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I can see the championship and L1 all voting for them to stay in as it does not effect them directly and if it happens to them in the future they can use this as a way out.
L2 clubs will vote them out as it would mean two go down this season.


well considered and i would think that would be the case.


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No one wants to see a club go bust, but they have and should be reinstated next season.

However, I think it is time to implement a 3 up 3 down between the national league and league 2.

Edit as I miss typed
No one wants to see a club go bust, but they have and should not be reinstated next season.


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I feel for them. Anything that can be done for them should be. As long as that cretin Dale has gone, signed and sealed and the club can demonstrate they are financially viable then I would re-admit them into league 2 next season.

Understand what people are saying though. Andy Holt, the Accrington owner makes a lot of sense and has been calling for massive reform for a long time. The Football League needs to do more to make sure this doesn't happen again, I can only imagine how Bury fans feel at the moment and for that reason, I would re-admit them into the Football League. Maybe expel MK Dons as well while they are at it.
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Their demise will save scunny unfortunately
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Their demise will save scunny unfortunately


My understanding of it is that it would be just the 3 down from L1 this season, and all other relegation/promotion spots would remain the same.  So effectively Bury if reinstated are one of the 4 teams that are relegated from L1 this season.

If they're reinstated, what example does it set for other clubs...
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Terrible thing to say but if it was MK Dons instead of Bury if it meant scunny going down then I'm all for it.
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Their demise will save scunny unfortunately


Do people really expect Scunny to struggle all season? Surely not? Personally I can’t see them going down at all, despite their awful start. Let’s hope I’m wrong, though!!
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Do people really expect Scunny to struggle all season? Surely not? Personally I can’t see them going down at all, despite their awful start. Let’s hope I’m wrong, though!!


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Do people really expect Scunny to struggle all season? Surely not?

I thought the same about Nott County last season. I still can't believe that they could not do enough to stay up.
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The Football League regulations say that clubs can gain access to the Football League through the National League. I don't agree with them going into the National League straight away either as that isn't what happened to the likes of Stockport, and to Chester City, who were made to drop down to the NPL fater they went belly up in the Conference. You have to have consistency on such matters, anything else is wide open to abuse, just as the re-election process used to be when teams from the old 4th Division had to apply for league membership if they finished in the bottom four.


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What example does it set if they are reinstated to the league? They should be made to reform and start from the bottom simple as that. Hopefully it will make clubs and their owners think twice about cheating their way out of a division. It’s about time football started to live within its means. If they are simply let back in nothing will change, in fact I think it will make things worse for football in the long run. As hard and unfortunate as it is for Bury fans it’s the only way I’m afraid.
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Do people really expect Scunny to struggle all season? Surely not? Personally I can’t see them going down at all, despite their awful start. Let’s hope I’m wrong, though!!


A couple more defeats and their chairman won't be able to help himself. Changing a manager constantly has to be one of the key factors in relegation. Chesterfield/Notts County.

Scunny are at home to Bradford and away at Plymouth next. I don't see them getting anything from either.
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A couple more defeats and their chairman won't be able to help himself. Changing a manager constantly has to be one of the key factors in relegation. Chesterfield/Notts County.

Scunny are at home to Bradford and away at Plymouth next. I don't see them getting anything from either.


Ooh, they ARE tough games!  I agree with you too, that Chairman will get nervous if things don't improve soon.
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The Football League regulations say that clubs can gain access to the Football League through the National League. I don't agree with them going into the National League straight away either as that isn't what happened to the likes of Stockport, and to Chester City, who were made to drop down to the NPL fater they went belly up in the Conference. You have to have consistency on such matters, anything else is wide open to abuse, just as the re-election process used to be when teams from the old 4th Division had to apply for league membership if they finished in the bottom four.


Stockport were in the National League. We beat them 7-2 at home in 11/12. Chester and Boston were forced to drop. Bury should not be readmitted.


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Stockport were in the National League. We beat them 7-2 at home in 11/12. Chester and Boston were forced to drop. Bury should not be readmitted.


I agree, a stance needs to be taken.
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For future sustainability the best thing would be to wind up Bury FC and start again, whether that be at Counties or Northern Premier.

If they retained 25% of their support, they would be among the best supported down there by some distance so they would soon rise without any inherited debts which has ultimately been their downfall.
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I think there is an EFL meet and possible vote on this this week?
I think that the local Bury MP is asking for support from other MP,s
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My view is they should follow the same route as all other teams that have gone bust in recent years
i.e. reform and come back in at a lower level
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I certainly don't like gulf between divisions for the EFL handouts.  80% championship, 12% Lg1 and 8% Lg2, surely that's not right.  It was something I read on the BBC football website, or maybe that thread about wages etc.


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Statement by Bury FC.... 'Request to our former fellow clubs'

Thoughts?




"We would ask before you send in your votes, for our reinstatement to our former position in the EFL this Thursday, to consider your own circumstances, and then give a thought to what has happened to Bury FC. Bury Football Club is a Victim, not a Villain, so why was it treated so unjustly.

How can 125 years of our historic Club be wiped out by the actions of a former Custodian, Bury the Club, did nothing wrong so culpability/prosecution should be aimed at the Culprit - not the Victim?

It has been frustrating as a Club not to be able to go Public with the causes of our problems. A lot of unjust vitriol has been received, but pending Criminal and Legal actions have not allowed us to do this, as it could prejudice the various cases, however as these unfold Clubs/Fans and the Public will be shocked at the injustice Bury has suffered and blame can be laid firmly at the feet of those responsible without lies and spin.

We have heard rumours that we gained our promotion unfairly, one wonders how our Club, fighting for its life for the last 11 months, c£17m in debt, the threat of losing our Stadium, enough stat demands, winding up orders and CCJ's to paper our offices in, bailiffs every other day, having to choose between paying threats that could close us or wages was an advantage?

We would not wish on anyone what we have been through and steps need to be taken to ensure that this can never happen to any of our Fellow Clubs again, it is unjust and wrong.

Even through all our difficulties, we never took action against our fellow clubs for monies owed to us, and believe us when we say we needed it, but fellow clubs in our position need help and solidarity from fellow Clubs, not writs.

There is a lot to address in our great sport to prevent injustice, a fairer slice of the pie to the lower leagues will help that before the TV rights disappear and there is no pot to help them. A body set up with people on the board who have been through tough times and indeed insolvency and specialists for advice so Clubs can go to them without retribution or being made public and believe us when we say there are many Clubs in need of help.

Of course, we need our SuperClubs, it gives us all hope in our aspirations, but seeds need watering, oak trees are more resilient.

If our Fellow Clubs are in doubt, give us time to allow us to put the facts forward as they unfold. Believe us when we say it would leave little doubt to reinstatement. If we could have our academy status back whilst this unravels, we can continue to help the youth as it is unfair that they have been hurt by these unjust events."


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Quoted from Irv93
Statement by Bury FC.... 'Request to our former fellow clubs'

Thoughts?




"We would ask before you send in your votes, for our reinstatement to our former position in the EFL this Thursday, to consider your own circumstances, and then give a thought to what has happened to Bury FC. Bury Football Club is a Victim, not a Villain, so why was it treated so unjustly.

How can 125 years of our historic Club be wiped out by the actions of a former Custodian, Bury the Club, did nothing wrong so culpability/prosecution should be aimed at the Culprit - not the Victim?

It has been frustrating as a Club not to be able to go Public with the causes of our problems. A lot of unjust vitriol has been received, but pending Criminal and Legal actions have not allowed us to do this, as it could prejudice the various cases, however as these unfold Clubs/Fans and the Public will be shocked at the injustice Bury has suffered and blame can be laid firmly at the feet of those responsible without lies and spin.

We have heard rumours that we gained our promotion unfairly, one wonders how our Club, fighting for its life for the last 11 months, c£17m in debt, the threat of losing our Stadium, enough stat demands, winding up orders and CCJ's to paper our offices in, bailiffs every other day, having to choose between paying threats that could close us or wages was an advantage?

We would not wish on anyone what we have been through and steps need to be taken to ensure that this can never happen to any of our Fellow Clubs again, it is unjust and wrong.

Even through all our difficulties, we never took action against our fellow clubs for monies owed to us, and believe us when we say we needed it, but fellow clubs in our position need help and solidarity from fellow Clubs, not writs.

There is a lot to address in our great sport to prevent injustice, a fairer slice of the pie to the lower leagues will help that before the TV rights disappear and there is no pot to help them. A body set up with people on the board who have been through tough times and indeed insolvency and specialists for advice so Clubs can go to them without retribution or being made public and believe us when we say there are many Clubs in need of help.

Of course, we need our SuperClubs, it gives us all hope in our aspirations, but seeds need watering, oak trees are more resilient.

If our Fellow Clubs are in doubt, give us time to allow us to put the facts forward as they unfold. Believe us when we say it would leave little doubt to reinstatement. If we could have our academy status back whilst this unravels, we can continue to help the youth as it is unfair that they have been hurt by these unjust events."


If they’re in £17m of debt, then how do they intend to pay this? The answer, of course, is they do not intend to - creditors will receive pennies in the pound.

That statement is just flim flam. All this self pity, all because they’ve never been in non league before. Well we have, for 6 awful years, and nobody missed us, just like nobody will miss Bury.

If their fans really love the club they’ll be back one day. The fact is, if the EFL did nothing back in August, Bury would now be in even more debt, living carefree and nothing would change.

Football needs Bury to pay so we all learn a lesson. Give their place in the league to a Conference club who can be trusted, as clearly Bury can’t be.

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It all seems a bit like the old method of clubs keeping their mates in the league, if they've broken the current rules then down they must go, its selection of the fittest.
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Statement by Bury FC.... 'Request to our former fellow clubs'

Thoughts?




"We would ask before you send in your votes, for our reinstatement to our former position in the EFL this Thursday, to consider your own circumstances, and then give a thought to what has happened to Bury FC. Bury Football Club is a Victim, not a Villain, so why was it treated so unjustly.

How can 125 years of our historic Club be wiped out by the actions of a former Custodian, Bury the Club, did nothing wrong so culpability/prosecution should be aimed at the Culprit - not the Victim?

It has been frustrating as a Club not to be able to go Public with the causes of our problems. A lot of unjust vitriol has been received, but pending Criminal and Legal actions have not allowed us to do this, as it could prejudice the various cases, however as these unfold Clubs/Fans and the Public will be shocked at the injustice Bury has suffered and blame can be laid firmly at the feet of those responsible without lies and spin.

We have heard rumours that we gained our promotion unfairly, one wonders how our Club, fighting for its life for the last 11 months, c£17m in debt, the threat of losing our Stadium, enough stat demands, winding up orders and CCJ's to paper our offices in, bailiffs every other day, having to choose between paying threats that could close us or wages was an advantage?

We would not wish on anyone what we have been through and steps need to be taken to ensure that this can never happen to any of our Fellow Clubs again, it is unjust and wrong.

Even through all our difficulties, we never took action against our fellow clubs for monies owed to us, and believe us when we say we needed it, but fellow clubs in our position need help and solidarity from fellow Clubs, not writs.

There is a lot to address in our great sport to prevent injustice, a fairer slice of the pie to the lower leagues will help that before the TV rights disappear and there is no pot to help them. A body set up with people on the board who have been through tough times and indeed insolvency and specialists for advice so Clubs can go to them without retribution or being made public and believe us when we say there are many Clubs in need of help.

Of course, we need our SuperClubs, it gives us all hope in our aspirations, but seeds need watering, oak trees are more resilient.

If our Fellow Clubs are in doubt, give us time to allow us to put the facts forward as they unfold. Believe us when we say it would leave little doubt to reinstatement. If we could have our academy status back whilst this unravels, we can continue to help the youth as it is unfair that they have been hurt by these unjust events."


Feck 'em...masters of their own downfall...whining about being hard done to..well, as a club they have committed the worse crime of all and that's let their fans down...
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Quoted from Irv93
Statement by Bury FC.... 'Request to our former fellow clubs'

Thoughts?




"We would ask before you send in your votes, for our reinstatement to our former position in the EFL this Thursday, to consider your own circumstances, and then give a thought to what has happened to Bury FC. Bury Football Club is a Victim, not a Villain, so why was it treated so unjustly.

How can 125 years of our historic Club be wiped out by the actions of a former Custodian, Bury the Club, did nothing wrong so culpability/prosecution should be aimed at the Culprit - not the Victim?

It has been frustrating as a Club not to be able to go Public with the causes of our problems. A lot of unjust vitriol has been received, but pending Criminal and Legal actions have not allowed us to do this, as it could prejudice the various cases, however as these unfold Clubs/Fans and the Public will be shocked at the injustice Bury has suffered and blame can be laid firmly at the feet of those responsible without lies and spin.

We have heard rumours that we gained our promotion unfairly, one wonders how our Club, fighting for its life for the last 11 months, c£17m in debt, the threat of losing our Stadium, enough stat demands, winding up orders and CCJ's to paper our offices in, bailiffs every other day, having to choose between paying threats that could close us or wages was an advantage?

We would not wish on anyone what we have been through and steps need to be taken to ensure that this can never happen to any of our Fellow Clubs again, it is unjust and wrong.

Even through all our difficulties, we never took action against our fellow clubs for monies owed to us, and believe us when we say we needed it, but fellow clubs in our position need help and solidarity from fellow Clubs, not writs.

There is a lot to address in our great sport to prevent injustice, a fairer slice of the pie to the lower leagues will help that before the TV rights disappear and there is no pot to help them. A body set up with people on the board who have been through tough times and indeed insolvency and specialists for advice so Clubs can go to them without retribution or being made public and believe us when we say there are many Clubs in need of help.

Of course, we need our SuperClubs, it gives us all hope in our aspirations, but seeds need watering, oak trees are more resilient.

If our Fellow Clubs are in doubt, give us time to allow us to put the facts forward as they unfold. Believe us when we say it would leave little doubt to reinstatement. If we could have our academy status back whilst this unravels, we can continue to help the youth as it is unfair that they have been hurt by these unjust events."


BYE
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Spent 11m
Turnover approx 3.5m

Went into voluntary liquidation so no one gets paid
Not even St Johns Ambulance I guess

To let them back in would be a green light to any or all clubs to just do what they did

Has our cleethorpes MP leant his support to them been let in?

They must bear the consequences of their actions

Feel genuinely sorry for the fans but if they reformed and came back in at step 5 (like previous clubs who suffered the same fate) they at least would have a team to support
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To summarise:

"It wasn't me that did it mam. It was him honest. Sure I went along for the ride. OK I did take drugs as well, but I didnt pay for them. It was him."

I assume you are a Bury fan Irv93. If so, stop your flipping whining and get on with starting again. Other clubs have had to pay their debts (still are) and some, like us, have had to do our time in non-League.

Shame you couldn't take Bolton with you.


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To summarise:

"It wasn't me that did it mam. It was him honest. Sure I went along for the ride. OK I did take drugs as well, but I didnt pay for them. It was him."

I assume you are a Bury fan Irv93. If so, stop your flipping whining and get on with starting again. Other clubs have had to pay their debts (still are) and some, like us, have had to do our time in non-League.

Shame you couldn't take Bolton with you.



Nope not a Bury fan at all Kingston, GTFC and only GTFC for me! I was just curious to know how you all felt regarding the clubs demise. Believe me when I tell you that the only people I feel sorry for at all are the fans of the club. I suppose it is now up to them fans to carry on and get behind whatever form the club takes in the future.

UTM.



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Nope not a Bury fan at all Kingston, GTFC and only GTFC for me! I was just curious to know how you all felt regarding the clubs demise. Believe me when I tell you that the only people I feel sorry for at all are the fans of the club. I suppose it is now up to them fans to carry on and get behind whatever form the club takes in the future.

UTM.



Ah, it seemed like some sort of statement Bury fans were flooding message boards and social media with.


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17 million in debt does not happen overnight, They spent money they did not have for a very long period of time.

Phoenix restart for me, and if the fans get behind it they could get back in the League in a few years.


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For me as others have said you have to feel a degree of sympathy with the supporters. But it does not extend to letting them getting away with financially cheating their way to promotion by letting them back in L2 next season.

Their demise should signal a huge change in approach from the FL regards the sustainability of its members. Will it? Of course not.

Bury have to go, but at the same time if nothing alters and these sort of people are still allowed to invest in EFL clubs then what will the EFL have learned from the situation?

If I was a Bury fan, while I would be devastated I would be determined to become involved in setting up a proper community club which the local area could be truly proud of. It is an opportunity to take football back to its roots in the area and create something really special.

A few years in the lower reaches, winning promotions, scoring lots of goals, connecting with the local community could actually turn out to be a god send.

At the end of the day football clubs are their supporters. We walk away there is no club, it really is that simple. Lets hope they take up the challenge and get back up to where they belong sooner rather than later.  
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I say let them back into League 2 next season.. On the proviso that that they have paid every single creditor in full.

Lets see how serious they are about wanting to come back in the league.


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I would have thought that gaining promotion with a wage bill you can't afford is tantamount to cheating your way to promotion.


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Correct decision in my opinion

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49841324

Feel genuinely sorry for their fans, but I don't think they had a valid case to be re-admitted
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100.00% right decision
Well done EFL
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It's sad for the fans of Bury, who have my sympathies.

However, Bury are no more a special case then Hereford, Darlington, and various other clubs who have been badly managed by their owners.

EFL have acted with some consistency here. Bury will have to regroup, and re-establish themselves as a phoenix club free of their crippling debts. This may mean saying goodbye to Gigg Lane, but that's how it is.

The comments in the release about the activities of the various owners is interesting. We already know some of it. Sounds like the full story will contain even more shocking revelations.

This sport certainly seems to attract some pretty disreputable characters.  
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