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I think there is an EFL meet and possible vote on this this week? I think that the local Bury MP is asking for support from other MP,s Be Interesting My view is they should follow the same route as all other teams that have gone bust in recent years i.e. reform and come back in at a lower level Come on Town!
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I certainly don't like gulf between divisions for the EFL handouts. 80% championship, 12% Lg1 and 8% Lg2, surely that's not right. It was something I read on the BBC football website, or maybe that thread about wages etc.
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Statement by Bury FC.... 'Request to our former fellow clubs'
Thoughts?
"We would ask before you send in your votes, for our reinstatement to our former position in the EFL this Thursday, to consider your own circumstances, and then give a thought to what has happened to Bury FC. Bury Football Club is a Victim, not a Villain, so why was it treated so unjustly.
How can 125 years of our historic Club be wiped out by the actions of a former Custodian, Bury the Club, did nothing wrong so culpability/prosecution should be aimed at the Culprit - not the Victim?
It has been frustrating as a Club not to be able to go Public with the causes of our problems. A lot of unjust vitriol has been received, but pending Criminal and Legal actions have not allowed us to do this, as it could prejudice the various cases, however as these unfold Clubs/Fans and the Public will be shocked at the injustice Bury has suffered and blame can be laid firmly at the feet of those responsible without lies and spin.
We have heard rumours that we gained our promotion unfairly, one wonders how our Club, fighting for its life for the last 11 months, c£17m in debt, the threat of losing our Stadium, enough stat demands, winding up orders and CCJ's to paper our offices in, bailiffs every other day, having to choose between paying threats that could close us or wages was an advantage?
We would not wish on anyone what we have been through and steps need to be taken to ensure that this can never happen to any of our Fellow Clubs again, it is unjust and wrong.
Even through all our difficulties, we never took action against our fellow clubs for monies owed to us, and believe us when we say we needed it, but fellow clubs in our position need help and solidarity from fellow Clubs, not writs.
There is a lot to address in our great sport to prevent injustice, a fairer slice of the pie to the lower leagues will help that before the TV rights disappear and there is no pot to help them. A body set up with people on the board who have been through tough times and indeed insolvency and specialists for advice so Clubs can go to them without retribution or being made public and believe us when we say there are many Clubs in need of help.
Of course, we need our SuperClubs, it gives us all hope in our aspirations, but seeds need watering, oak trees are more resilient.
If our Fellow Clubs are in doubt, give us time to allow us to put the facts forward as they unfold. Believe us when we say it would leave little doubt to reinstatement. If we could have our academy status back whilst this unravels, we can continue to help the youth as it is unfair that they have been hurt by these unjust events."
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Heisenberg |
September 24, 2019, 6:34pm |
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Statement by Bury FC.... 'Request to our former fellow clubs'
Thoughts?
"We would ask before you send in your votes, for our reinstatement to our former position in the EFL this Thursday, to consider your own circumstances, and then give a thought to what has happened to Bury FC. Bury Football Club is a Victim, not a Villain, so why was it treated so unjustly.
How can 125 years of our historic Club be wiped out by the actions of a former Custodian, Bury the Club, did nothing wrong so culpability/prosecution should be aimed at the Culprit - not the Victim?
It has been frustrating as a Club not to be able to go Public with the causes of our problems. A lot of unjust vitriol has been received, but pending Criminal and Legal actions have not allowed us to do this, as it could prejudice the various cases, however as these unfold Clubs/Fans and the Public will be shocked at the injustice Bury has suffered and blame can be laid firmly at the feet of those responsible without lies and spin.
We have heard rumours that we gained our promotion unfairly, one wonders how our Club, fighting for its life for the last 11 months, c£17m in debt, the threat of losing our Stadium, enough stat demands, winding up orders and CCJ's to paper our offices in, bailiffs every other day, having to choose between paying threats that could close us or wages was an advantage?
We would not wish on anyone what we have been through and steps need to be taken to ensure that this can never happen to any of our Fellow Clubs again, it is unjust and wrong.
Even through all our difficulties, we never took action against our fellow clubs for monies owed to us, and believe us when we say we needed it, but fellow clubs in our position need help and solidarity from fellow Clubs, not writs.
There is a lot to address in our great sport to prevent injustice, a fairer slice of the pie to the lower leagues will help that before the TV rights disappear and there is no pot to help them. A body set up with people on the board who have been through tough times and indeed insolvency and specialists for advice so Clubs can go to them without retribution or being made public and believe us when we say there are many Clubs in need of help.
Of course, we need our SuperClubs, it gives us all hope in our aspirations, but seeds need watering, oak trees are more resilient.
If our Fellow Clubs are in doubt, give us time to allow us to put the facts forward as they unfold. Believe us when we say it would leave little doubt to reinstatement. If we could have our academy status back whilst this unravels, we can continue to help the youth as it is unfair that they have been hurt by these unjust events."
If they’re in £17m of debt, then how do they intend to pay this? The answer, of course, is they do not intend to - creditors will receive pennies in the pound. That statement is just flim flam. All this self pity, all because they’ve never been in non league before. Well we have, for 6 awful years, and nobody missed us, just like nobody will miss Bury. If their fans really love the club they’ll be back one day. The fact is, if the EFL did nothing back in August, Bury would now be in even more debt, living carefree and nothing would change. Football needs Bury to pay so we all learn a lesson. Give their place in the league to a Conference club who can be trusted, as clearly Bury can’t be.
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September 24, 2019, 7:18pm |
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It all seems a bit like the old method of clubs keeping their mates in the league, if they've broken the current rules then down they must go, its selection of the fittest.
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Northbank Mariner |
September 24, 2019, 7:18pm |
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Statement by Bury FC.... 'Request to our former fellow clubs'
Thoughts?
"We would ask before you send in your votes, for our reinstatement to our former position in the EFL this Thursday, to consider your own circumstances, and then give a thought to what has happened to Bury FC. Bury Football Club is a Victim, not a Villain, so why was it treated so unjustly.
How can 125 years of our historic Club be wiped out by the actions of a former Custodian, Bury the Club, did nothing wrong so culpability/prosecution should be aimed at the Culprit - not the Victim?
It has been frustrating as a Club not to be able to go Public with the causes of our problems. A lot of unjust vitriol has been received, but pending Criminal and Legal actions have not allowed us to do this, as it could prejudice the various cases, however as these unfold Clubs/Fans and the Public will be shocked at the injustice Bury has suffered and blame can be laid firmly at the feet of those responsible without lies and spin.
We have heard rumours that we gained our promotion unfairly, one wonders how our Club, fighting for its life for the last 11 months, c£17m in debt, the threat of losing our Stadium, enough stat demands, winding up orders and CCJ's to paper our offices in, bailiffs every other day, having to choose between paying threats that could close us or wages was an advantage?
We would not wish on anyone what we have been through and steps need to be taken to ensure that this can never happen to any of our Fellow Clubs again, it is unjust and wrong.
Even through all our difficulties, we never took action against our fellow clubs for monies owed to us, and believe us when we say we needed it, but fellow clubs in our position need help and solidarity from fellow Clubs, not writs.
There is a lot to address in our great sport to prevent injustice, a fairer slice of the pie to the lower leagues will help that before the TV rights disappear and there is no pot to help them. A body set up with people on the board who have been through tough times and indeed insolvency and specialists for advice so Clubs can go to them without retribution or being made public and believe us when we say there are many Clubs in need of help.
Of course, we need our SuperClubs, it gives us all hope in our aspirations, but seeds need watering, oak trees are more resilient.
If our Fellow Clubs are in doubt, give us time to allow us to put the facts forward as they unfold. Believe us when we say it would leave little doubt to reinstatement. If we could have our academy status back whilst this unravels, we can continue to help the youth as it is unfair that they have been hurt by these unjust events."
Feck 'em...masters of their own downfall...whining about being hard done to..well, as a club they have committed the worse crime of all and that's let their fans down...
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September 24, 2019, 8:55pm |
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Statement by Bury FC.... 'Request to our former fellow clubs'
Thoughts?
"We would ask before you send in your votes, for our reinstatement to our former position in the EFL this Thursday, to consider your own circumstances, and then give a thought to what has happened to Bury FC. Bury Football Club is a Victim, not a Villain, so why was it treated so unjustly.
How can 125 years of our historic Club be wiped out by the actions of a former Custodian, Bury the Club, did nothing wrong so culpability/prosecution should be aimed at the Culprit - not the Victim?
It has been frustrating as a Club not to be able to go Public with the causes of our problems. A lot of unjust vitriol has been received, but pending Criminal and Legal actions have not allowed us to do this, as it could prejudice the various cases, however as these unfold Clubs/Fans and the Public will be shocked at the injustice Bury has suffered and blame can be laid firmly at the feet of those responsible without lies and spin.
We have heard rumours that we gained our promotion unfairly, one wonders how our Club, fighting for its life for the last 11 months, c£17m in debt, the threat of losing our Stadium, enough stat demands, winding up orders and CCJ's to paper our offices in, bailiffs every other day, having to choose between paying threats that could close us or wages was an advantage?
We would not wish on anyone what we have been through and steps need to be taken to ensure that this can never happen to any of our Fellow Clubs again, it is unjust and wrong.
Even through all our difficulties, we never took action against our fellow clubs for monies owed to us, and believe us when we say we needed it, but fellow clubs in our position need help and solidarity from fellow Clubs, not writs.
There is a lot to address in our great sport to prevent injustice, a fairer slice of the pie to the lower leagues will help that before the TV rights disappear and there is no pot to help them. A body set up with people on the board who have been through tough times and indeed insolvency and specialists for advice so Clubs can go to them without retribution or being made public and believe us when we say there are many Clubs in need of help.
Of course, we need our SuperClubs, it gives us all hope in our aspirations, but seeds need watering, oak trees are more resilient.
If our Fellow Clubs are in doubt, give us time to allow us to put the facts forward as they unfold. Believe us when we say it would leave little doubt to reinstatement. If we could have our academy status back whilst this unravels, we can continue to help the youth as it is unfair that they have been hurt by these unjust events."
BYE
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sydney |
September 24, 2019, 9:05pm |
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Spent 11m Turnover approx 3.5m
Went into voluntary liquidation so no one gets paid Not even St Johns Ambulance I guess
To let them back in would be a green light to any or all clubs to just do what they did
Has our cleethorpes MP leant his support to them been let in?
They must bear the consequences of their actions
Feel genuinely sorry for the fans but if they reformed and came back in at step 5 (like previous clubs who suffered the same fate) they at least would have a team to support
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KingstonMariner |
September 24, 2019, 9:11pm |
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To summarise:
"It wasn't me that did it mam. It was him honest. Sure I went along for the ride. OK I did take drugs as well, but I didnt pay for them. It was him."
I assume you are a Bury fan Irv93. If so, stop your flipping whining and get on with starting again. Other clubs have had to pay their debts (still are) and some, like us, have had to do our time in non-League.
Shame you couldn't take Bolton with you.
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Irv93 |
September 24, 2019, 9:23pm |
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To summarise:
"It wasn't me that did it mam. It was him honest. Sure I went along for the ride. OK I did take drugs as well, but I didnt pay for them. It was him."
I assume you are a Bury fan Irv93. If so, stop your flipping whining and get on with starting again. Other clubs have had to pay their debts (still are) and some, like us, have had to do our time in non-League.
Shame you couldn't take Bolton with you.
Nope not a Bury fan at all Kingston, GTFC and only GTFC for me! I was just curious to know how you all felt regarding the clubs demise. Believe me when I tell you that the only people I feel sorry for at all are the fans of the club. I suppose it is now up to them fans to carry on and get behind whatever form the club takes in the future. UTM.
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