Just back

Goals win games. No score = no win.

I had hoped we had learned that lesson ..... but apparently not.

Every time Gary Henshaw summarised he was 100% spot on.
Is he employed in football?
From what I saw of Robson, he should be in the starting 11 on Saturday.
No doubt the 'experts' will explain why we had to make 3 changes in the line up to replace one player.

The decision to disallow the goal is supposedly correct although I didn't know about the new rule. They'll have to start drawing not only a line ten yards away from a free kick, but also a shape 1 yard away around the wall.

Are you telling me though that the goal was the only decision the 4th official thought the ref got incorrect? He didn't see any other?
Also is he aware there is a new rule regarding being substituted and leaving the field at the nearest point? Perhaps somebody should have helped him out.

Just seen the extended highlights on GTFC website.

I cannot see how the fourth official in the dugout can overrule a referee that is looking at the wall from about ten yards. Did Salford officials bend his ear to convince him to step in? Green did give the defender a little shove, but you see that at most free kicks, and the ref must have seen it and deemed it to be ok, otherwise he wouldn't have given the goal. I bet you won't see similar goals chalked off in the premier league by VAR.

Also, the winning free kick went between two Salford players who look offside and in Macca's eyeline.

The new changes to the laws of the game are proving to be more controversial, and are causing more arguments than they are suppose to stop, especially in the lower leagues.

It is accepted that we are one-paced and have no one to take players on in the starting 11.  Max Wright has pace and makes goals for others when he come on.  Against Macc he beat 4/5 players and could have scored.  

Defenders hate pace and direct running against them.   Gives them something to worry about.  

Why isn't Max given more time on the pitch to show what he does best?  

Two things I would say. First, what the heck was Matt Green playing at? Why give a hint of a decision to be made when we were in such a good scoring position?

Secondly, it is absolutely outrageous that the 4th official overruled the referee's decision.

That will lead to chaos if that is allowed to stand. What about all the other mistakes a referee or linesman makes during a game? Each mistake could be vital to the outcome of the game, so is the 4th official going to intervene regularly, or is it only when the opposition bench harangue him? Or is it only when a goal is scored and the opposition has seen a minor infringement  when in 99% of cases it would be ignored?

The referee should have politely but firmly told the 4th official the goal stood.

Quoted from grimsby pete

With no VAR in use that is the first time I have seen the fourth official disallow a goal,

Has anybody ever seen one disallowed by the 4th official before when VAR is not in use ?

No, never. I have never seen a 4th official intervene against  any referee who has made a bad decision in any area of the pitch. Last night leaves any 4th official at the mercy of any opposition bench who don't like a decision that has gone against them.

Referees should ensure that, like assistant referees, the Fourth Official ‘assists’ with their match control. The
primary responsibility for controlling the match remains with the referee who makes the final decision at all
times. In discharging this responsibility it is expected that referees will only seek assistance from the Fourth
Official in respect of significant match changing incidents which have been missed by the other three match
officials and which are clearly visible to the Fourth Official. Quoted from The FA website.

Green clearly contravened the new law regarding the wall - either the ref didn't see it (unlikely) or didn't know it (seems Matt Green didn't either).

The question is was it the 4th official who alerted the ref

or (in the style of Pete)

was it the Salford crew on the touchline (and there was a crew of them) who alerted the 4th official to the the offence and then he called the ref??

thoughts guys??

The next time there is a free kick, with the wall in the area, and a defender pushes an attacker trying to get in the wall, will the ref / fourth official give a penalty?

I don't think so, so why disallow a goal.