Cowley to 'udders

Hmm, I've been thinking about this more and thought of something else we might be glossing over.

The Cowleys have, up until now, been working with grounded individuals. Think of what they did at Braintree. They had very little money and motivated part-timers to balance football with real world jobs to finish above us in the Conference.

I know Lincoln were full time when they joined but, even so, the same applies. Footballers at that level won't be earning much, and can't retire on their wealth.

I appreciate that the players they've brought in since being a League 2 side (and now League 1) are an increase in standard, but still, I'd say the majority of them have been playing around this level for a while.

Basically, there are no superstars.

Now, Cowley's going into a club that was last season in the Prem. They might not be world class players but they're still a cut above. I doubt there are many down-to-earth footballers at Huddersfield in terms of them knowing what life's like outside of the bubble.

Cowley might be able to get the very best out of limited footballers, motivating them with tactics, ambition, punching above their weight, etc. Now, he's got to pick up a load of players who are probably on very healthy salaries, possibly overpaid and probably not motivated by much other than £££.

I'm not saying he's destined to fail, but it's a totally different challenge (and environment) to what he's known before.

Quoted from RichMariner

Hmm, I've been thinking about this more and thought of something else we might be glossing over.

The Cowleys have, up until now, been working with grounded individuals. Think of what they did at Braintree. They had very little money and motivated part-timers to balance football with real world jobs to finish above us in the Conference.

I know Lincoln were full time when they joined but, even so, the same applies. Footballers at that level won't be earning much, and can't retire on their wealth.

I appreciate that the players they've brought in since being a League 2 side (and now League 1) are an increase in standard, but still, I'd say the majority of them have been playing around this level for a while.

Basically, there are no superstars.

Now, Cowley's going into a club that was last season in the Prem. They might not be world class players but they're still a cut above. I doubt there are many down-to-earth footballers at Huddersfield in terms of them knowing what life's like outside of the bubble.

Cowley might be able to get the very best out of limited footballers, motivating them with tactics, ambition, punching above their weight, etc. Now, he's got to pick up a load of players who are probably on very healthy salaries, possibly overpaid and probably not motivated by much other than £££.

I'm not saying he's destined to fail, but it's a totally different challenge (and environment) to what he's known before.

Some very good points there I would think thats why Hurst was not successful at Ipswich,
Don't ask me why it is not working at Scunthorpe.

Quoted from RichMariner

Hmm, I've been thinking about this more and thought of something else we might be glossing over.

The Cowleys have, up until now, been working with grounded individuals. Think of what they did at Braintree. They had very little money and motivated part-timers to balance football with real world jobs to finish above us in the Conference.

I know Lincoln were full time when they joined but, even so, the same applies. Footballers at that level won't be earning much, and can't retire on their wealth.

I appreciate that the players they've brought in since being a League 2 side (and now League 1) are an increase in standard, but still, I'd say the majority of them have been playing around this level for a while.

Basically, there are no superstars.

Now, Cowley's going into a club that was last season in the Prem. They might not be world class players but they're still a cut above. I doubt there are many down-to-earth footballers at Huddersfield in terms of them knowing what life's like outside of the bubble.

Cowley might be able to get the very best out of limited footballers, motivating them with tactics, ambition, punching above their weight, etc. Now, he's got to pick up a load of players who are probably on very healthy salaries, possibly overpaid and probably not motivated by much other than £££.

I'm not saying he's destined to fail, but it's a totally different challenge (and environment) to what he's known before.

I would imagine players like Bostwick, Frecklington and Shackell will have served him well as they will have earned a handsome sum; particularly in the case of Shackell. That said, he's probably going from being the top earner or one of the top earners to managing a first team squad earning more than him. That in itself turns the hierarchy upside down.

Be interesting to see if he can command their respect and what he does if he can't. He was teaching PE alongside management less than 5 years ago. That in itself will provide a huge barrier in winning over that dressing room.

Knew they would go it was plain to see as soon as they went on about budgets earlier in the season, not a shock to me.
Taking over a club that's struggling isn't ideal & the step up is massive.
Ainsworth said he was surprised by the step up to L1& it caught him out, so i'd imagine the step up to the Championship is why so many up and coming managers have been found out.
Our board will get the right man in and its something they have been preparing for ever since they arrived.

Quoted from RichMariner

Hmm, I've been thinking about this more and thought of something else we might be glossing over.

The Cowleys have, up until now, been working with grounded individuals. Think of what they did at Braintree. They had very little money and motivated part-timers to balance football with real world jobs to finish above us in the Conference.

I know Lincoln were full time when they joined but, even so, the same applies. Footballers at that level won't be earning much, and can't retire on their wealth.

I appreciate that the players they've brought in since being a League 2 side (and now League 1) are an increase in standard, but still, I'd say the majority of them have been playing around this level for a while.

Basically, there are no superstars.

Now, Cowley's going into a club that was last season in the Prem. They might not be world class players but they're still a cut above. I doubt there are many down-to-earth footballers at Huddersfield in terms of them knowing what life's like outside of the bubble.

Cowley might be able to get the very best out of limited footballers, motivating them with tactics, ambition, punching above their weight, etc. Now, he's got to pick up a load of players who are probably on very healthy salaries, possibly overpaid and probably not motivated by much other than £££.

I'm not saying he's destined to fail, but it's a totally different challenge (and environment) to what he's known before.

This is what I meant earlier about Huddersfield recruitment policies. Most of the players are valued in the £2m to £5m bracket with one or two above that though the most is about £13m. From Cowley’s perspective you make some good points Rich. He has not been in charge of players worth even that much before. He will also need to spend in January to turn things round.

Huddersfield have abandoned their previous policy for buying players, the one that got them promoted. So Cowley has a free hand but he has no experience of scouting or agents at this level either. I think this was one of the reasons for Hurst failing at Ipswich. The only players he could recruit were cast offs or ones he knew like Tojo and the fans soon realised he was out of his depth. The same applies to Jones at Stoke.

New managers need time but even time is no help if they have no contacts abroad or at high levels in the PL/EFL.

Good ol' Tojo  

Quoted from Helgy

Knew they would go it was plain to see as soon as they went on about budgets earlier in the season, not a shock to me.
Taking over a club that's struggling isn't ideal & the step up is massive.
Ainsworth said he was surprised by the step up to L1& it caught him out, so i'd imagine the step up to the Championship is why so many up and coming managers have been found out.
Our board will get the right man in and its something they have been preparing for ever since they arrived.

A bit like Paul Hurst, although I must say that he's doing a fantastic job at Scunny now/.  

Quoted from Helgy

Our board will get the right man in and its something they have been preparing for ever since they arrived.

A bit like our board    they only give out 6 month contracts so they are always looking for the next man.

Quoted from Helgy

Knew they would go it was plain to see as soon as they went on about budgets earlier in the season, not a shock to me.
Taking over a club that's struggling isn't ideal & the step up is massive.
Ainsworth said he was surprised by the step up to L1& it caught him out, so i'd imagine the step up to the Championship is why so many up and coming managers have been found out.
Our board will get the right man in and its something they have been preparing for ever since they arrived.

Lincoln are clearly very well run and Clive Nate’s appears a smart cookie however, as probably every professional football club in the country has found selecting the right manager is not as easy as probably most us fans believe it should be.
Nearly 50 years ago we  had Lawrie McMenemy in charge who built up the same rapport with town fans as the Cowleys have achieved at Lincoln and it took us a few goes before we got a decent replacement. As an aside we replaced Lawrie with Ron Ashman who was at the time managing Scunthorpe so be good if Lincoln follows the precedent and appoint Agent Hurst, nothing like a safe pair of hands 😄😩

Its a big no for Agent Hurst he already deep into his mission in guiding Scunny down the same path as Chesterfield with a back to back relegation.