|
MuddyWaters |
|
Barley Wine Drinker
Posts: 14,028
Posts Per Day: 2.60
Reputation: 68.15%
Rep Score: +48 / -24
Approval: +31,883
Gold Stars: 230
|
quite interesting interview, though the volume was awful. Sounds like the journo had put the microphone out in the corridor! Fenty ,at long last, seems to have given up on Peaks Parkway, even though he's convinced it's the best option. Without Shutes the ground on the docks will die, so Freeman Street seems to be the option he's planning for Forgive me GrimRob/getyourfactsright if i've got this arrse about face as it was bloody difficult to hear (don't need any more posts deleted nor snotty p.m.s) Some crackers for your Fenty Bingo , although i was badly let down when 'tyre kickers' didn't pass his lips those old stalwarts - at the end of the day / moving forward / brought to the table/ sat round the table/ it's fair to say /rub of the green all got a good airing. he loves 'custodian' ;think he said it 5 times, whilst I particularly liked newcomers such as 'income ladder' and the pitch being described as a 'postage stamp'. he saved the best though, until near the end, when he said 'he wanted to cement home again' , by which i think he simply meant 'repeat' rather than referring to some bizarre, botched d.i.y. job!
I particularly liked BP pitch being a 'postage stamp' and then 'my most expensive garden'. The underlying message I get is that the takeover seems far less likely than it was reported by the Telegraph two months ago.
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
forza ivano |
|
Exile
Posts: 14,680
Posts Per Day: 2.47
Reputation: 80.18%
Rep Score: +73 / -18
Approval: +15,138
Gold Stars: 265
|
I particularly liked BP pitch being a 'postage stamp' and then 'my most expensive garden'.
The underlying message I get is that the takeover seems far less likely than it was reported by the Telegraph two months ago.
oooh , i missed the garden one Codger.Was he still talking about the pitch? The other one I liked, and he said it twice, was 'went through the building' referring to the player turnover. does anyone know if that is an 'oldie but goodie' or a new turn of phrase that he's discovered?
|
|
|
|
|
grimsby pete |
|
Exile
Posts: 55,548
Posts Per Day: 9.83
Reputation: 81.7%
Rep Score: +126 / -28
Location: Suffolk
Approval: +17,753
Gold Stars: 221
|
Never heard anybody say they hate John Fenty personally he`s just done his time and were fed up with him and he is fed up with us.
True but never heard anybody say they love him either
|
| Over 36 years living in Suffolk but always a mariner. 68 Years following the Town
Life member of Trust
First game April 1955 |
|
|
|
|
KingstonMariner |
|
Meths Drinker
Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.12
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
First and formost Fenty is and always will be a life long mariner. I have not agreed with everything he as done but in hindsight (unless we have hidden debts) he as tried to keep the club financially stable.
His ego does get the better of him which causes a bitter rift with supporters and even fellow ex directors.
Let's face it nobody likes being told they are wrong or critisised for doing the wrong thing.
Time to let Mike Jolley's team and the lads do the talking on the pitch where it matters.
We all want that don't we??
MD, I’m not aware of ANY calls for the team not to do their talking on the pitch, are you?!
|
| Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
cmackenzie4 |
|
Recovering Alcoholic
Posts: 58,277
Posts Per Day: 11.29
Reputation: 92.05%
Rep Score: +130 / -10
Location: Grimsby
Approval: +14,320
Gold Stars: 33
|
I thought that was a great interview by John, he spoke honestly and from the heart, you can see this club means a lot to him, he’s acknowledged he’s got things wrong in the past which takes balls to do that, he deserves credit for that 👍
|
| Grimsby and proud! |
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
lew chaterleys lover |
|
Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 4,943
Posts Per Day: 1.07
Reputation: 75.9%
Rep Score: +30 / -10
Approval: +10,546
Gold Stars: 231
|
I admit he came over better in that interview - looked more relaxed - perhaps because it was an interview by little known media.
Regarding the substance though, I don't understand what the point of Fenty is? If you cannot spend more than 50% of your income and he has not had much if any success in improving our income, then what is he there for?
He distributes the main income - the fans money - to the manager who spends it. To me, that cries out that a man with such limited ability to have a collegiate approach, and to get and keep other people on board who could increase our income is definitely not the man we need.
He keeps asking Shutes for proof of funds to counteract a downturn, or a bad season, but why should he have to do that? Fenty himself said the club is self-financing even run as it is now, so the chance of a serious downturn is unlikely.
Even after all this time in charge Fenty's financial input has been relatively small by todays standards, and that did include a serious downturn (relegation from the league altogether)
That interview has just confirmed my view that someone else in charge who is better able to galvanise the fans and get a feel good factor around the club and its role in the community would do a much better job. If that man is also able to make the club the centrepiece of a regeneration of the town that would be fantastic.
|
|
Logged |
|
|
|
|
pen penfras |
|
Cocktail Drinker
Posts: 1,677
Posts Per Day: 0.67
Reputation: 58.56%
Rep Score: +8 / -9
Approval: -137
Gold Stars: 71
|
I admit he came over better in that interview - looked more relaxed - perhaps because it was an interview by little known media.
Regarding the substance though, I don't understand what the point of Fenty is? If you cannot spend more than 50% of your income and he has not had much if any success in improving our income, then what is he there for?
He distributes the main income - the fans money - to the manager who spends it. To me, that cries out that a man with such limited ability to have a collegiate approach, and to get and keep other people on board who could increase our income is definitely not the man we need.
He keeps asking Shutes for proof of funds to counteract a downturn, or a bad season, but why should he have to do that? Fenty himself said the club is self-financing even run as it is now, so the chance of a serious downturn is unlikely.
Even after all this time in charge Fenty's financial input has been relatively small by todays standards, and that did include a serious downturn (relegation from the league altogether)
That interview has just confirmed my view that someone else in charge who is better able to galvanise the fans and get a feel good factor around the club and its role in the community would do a much better job. If that man is also able to make the club the centrepiece of a regeneration of the town that would be fantastic.
He admits that we currently don't need these extra funds, but also goes on to explain how much we lost when we got relegated last time, which is nearly double what he said he's looking for in terms of proof of funds for a rainy day. The EFL requirement is that we only spend 50% of qualifying income, but a bad run and crowds could easily drop to 3000 which would be a huge drop in income that we couldn't have accounted for and would put us significantly above the 50%. Plus with players on 2-3 year contracts, we could end up stuck with high earners in the conference with a significantly lower income.
|
|
|
|
|
KingstonMariner |
|
Meths Drinker
Posts: 22,096
Posts Per Day: 6.12
Reputation: 79.33%
Rep Score: +42 / -11
Approval: +23,440
Gold Stars: 218
|
He admits that we currently don't need these extra funds, but also goes on to explain how much we lost when we got relegated last time, which is nearly double what he said he's looking for in terms of proof of funds for a rainy day. The EFL requirement is that we only spend 50% of qualifying income, but a bad run and crowds could easily drop to 3000 which would be a huge drop in income that we couldn't have accounted for and would put us significantly above the 50%. Plus with players on 2-3 year contracts, we could end up stuck with high earners in the conference with a significantly lower income.
So how would a handout from an owner not breach the FFP rules?
|
| Through the door there came familiar laughter, I saw your face and heard you call my name. Oh my friend we're older but no wiser, For in our hearts the dreams are still the same. |
|
|
|
|
pen penfras |
|
Cocktail Drinker
Posts: 1,677
Posts Per Day: 0.67
Reputation: 58.56%
Rep Score: +8 / -9
Approval: -137
Gold Stars: 71
|
So how would a handout from an owner not breach the FFP rules?
If you read through the EFL rules on FFP or whatever they call it, owner donations are eligible for 100% going towards the playing budget, it's 50% of transfers, ticket sales, merchandise etc. Andy Holt also mentioned that there's a box owners can tick to say they won't abide by these rules and will self fund the club.
|
|
|
|
|
Bigdog |
|
Whiskey Drinker
Posts: 3,383
Posts Per Day: 1.14
Reputation: 93.81%
Rep Score: +36 / -1
Approval: +11,802
Gold Stars: 162
|
He admits that we currently don't need these extra funds, but also goes on to explain how much we lost when we got relegated last time, which is nearly double what he said he's looking for in terms of proof of funds for a rainy day. The EFL requirement is that we only spend 50% of qualifying income, but a bad run and crowds could easily drop to 3000 which would be a huge drop in income that we couldn't have accounted for and would put us significantly above the 50%. Plus with players on 2-3 year contracts, we could end up stuck with high earners in the conference with a significantly lower income.
In this day and age, I can't imagine any responsible owner of a football club would sign players in any division on two or three year contracts without a relegation clause that significantly reduced the salaries and an option for either party to cancel the contract and the player look elsewhere. Surely they wouldn't have had their eyes shut seeing what has happened to Leeds, Sunderland, Bolton, Coventry and many others upon relegation from the Premier League over the past couple of decades? Different levels of cash but exactly the same principle..
|
|
|
|
|