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Ipswin
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Did anyone ever get to the bottom of what was really going on there at the time? I mean if the greatest mind in football Sol Campbell was fooled by the then owners then we must be talking some pretty high level confidence tricksters. Looking back the EFL has let pretty much anybody own a Football Club!  

The below is well worth a watch and just shows these kind of things have been going on for years!

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi4hNLvZVPM[/url]


I hope as he peruses our board that John Fenty has seen and watches this



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I agree, it was a major fcuk up in our case too. And a severe case of the heart ruling the head*.

Never should have happened and I don't mind reminding people. 'I told you so.' Our case was probably only different in scale and degree. Different in degree because our Trust kept a significant stake. Different in scale because the prizes on offer were a lot, lot lower. Actually, to be fair to Fenty, he is a genuine fan too, unlike, Munto Finance (was it?) in County's case.

We should remember these cases as warnings

* I like to think on that occasion my heart and head were telling me the same thing. A natural aversion to emotional blackmail, and a cold consideration of the possible outcomes of the decision.


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Hastily arranged EFL meeting taking place with bury sale on the agenda. Surely not...


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Hastily arranged EFL meeting taking place with bury sale on the agenda. Surely not...


Why does nobody in society seem to respect a deadline nowadays?  They're out of the League, end of story as far as I'm concerned, and that should be their stance.  If they survive as a club/business and are not liquidated, then great, good for them, but they then have to get their house in order over the next few months and apply to go into non-league for the start of next season, and I mean below Conference North level.  If they're accepted, then hey presto, but they're no longer a league club anymore and should accept it.

The EFL shouldn't have anything to discuss with regards to Bury, Bury need to sort themselves out as a non-league club.

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Why does nobody in society seem to respect a deadline nowadays?  They're out of the League, end of story as far as I'm concerned, and that should be their stance.  If they survive as a club/business and are not liquidated, then great, good for them, but they then have to get their house in order over the next few months and apply to go into non-league for the start of next season, and I mean below Conference North level.  If they're accepted, then hey presto, but they're no longer a league club anymore and should accept it.

The EFL shouldn't have anything to discuss with regards to Bury, Bury need to sort themselves out as a non-league club.



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A position you will maintain when sorry if, it happens to us?


Sort of.  I know what you mean, you're assuming I (and many on here) would become hypocrites, and you may indeed by right, but my God, they've had months to sort this out, in full view of the public eye, and they all of a sudden attract interested bidders an hour before they're chucked out, even another bidder after the deadline!  It's too late.  They were given ages.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be beyond devastated to be in the same situation as the Bury fans, but their situation seems like that of many clubs, yet snowballed multiple times over.  With hindsight, Bury was a complete basket case of a club!
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I think you’re underestimating people. Not everyone is an ostrich like consumer. If you start signing players a cut above what you’re used to you have an inclination about something. People have access to all sorts of information these days and it only takes a few to find company accounts even if it is a year after the event. And in Bury’s case this has been going on for years.


I'm sure back in 2000/2001 town fans didn't think something was wrong when we signed expensive players on large wages on an average gate of 5,646 .


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I'm sure back in 2000/2001 town fans didn't think something was wrong when we signed expensive players on large wages on an average gate of 5,646 .


It was all good back then, we used to get a fortune from ITV Digital.
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I'm sure back in 2000/2001 town fans didn't think something was wrong when we signed expensive players on large wages on an average gate of 5,646 .


Probably right. But if anyone has failed to learn the lessons of that 18 years on I have no sympathy.


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