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Yes but overall I still wage that most fans would want it implemented.I think Fifa have done extensive research on players and clubs alike on whether they want it implemented and most said they would.For me its a huge blessing to the game.Think of yourself as a player playing for England and a goal is wrongly disallowed in the semi finals of the world cup at 0-0 in the 92nd minute.Your dreams will be wrongly shattered.

Look back at the 2018 world cup when VAR was first implemented. Yes there were teething problems but once fans get used to it most I think will like and embrace it.Its like anything some people will be against change but once used for the greater good most will come to accept it.





I would place VAR in the same bin as the technology used to in-tune voices and instruments at festivals. Yes it makes someone like McCartney sound perfect in voice and backing but it sounds nothing like the real thing with all its duff notes and forgotten lyrics. If they could have made Woodstock aurally perfect would it be better?

VAR is crap, that is my considered opinion. It ruins a human activity by interpolating a technology in-between the human interactions. It will work, no doubt about it. There will be slavish devotees of technology who will praise it. More importantly there will be money people who want it and want the changes to the game it will help to bring and they are the ones putting FIFA under enormous pressure to bring in these gadgets and gimmicks. But proper football at top flight is now a dead duck as far as I am concerned, I'm not interested in a stop-start. betting fest. The Championship is their next target if they think there's enough money to be made from it.


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But them penalty decisions where the VAR was used yesterday in the Man City game could of been pivotal if the score was only 0-0 with 10 minutes to go.

For me though sport and football go beyond entertainment but mirror life in general.Hence trying to better yourself both emotionally and physically and also helping society in general.Hence football serves a social need as well eg brings community and gives life and happiness to so many people .As Bill Shankly once said "Some people believe football is a matter of life and death. I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that."



Football is entertainment. If people weren't entertained watching it, then they wouldn't watch it. VAR makes the game less entertaining.
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Yes perhaps that was a wrong study to use but to me still represents a snapshot of the game.I still feel a consensus of football fans around the world eg over 50% would still want to see VAR implemented?


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I would place VAR in the same bin as the technology used to in-tune voices and instruments at festivals. Yes it makes someone like McCartney sound perfect in voice and backing but it sounds nothing like the real thing with all its duff notes and forgotten lyrics. If they could have made Woodstock aurally perfect would it be better?

Each to their own Ron



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I was all in favour of introducing VAR to eliminate gross errors such as the Lampard 'goal' v Germany, or the Henri handball v Eire.

But the way it has been implemented regarding offside is very poor. The rule is that you are onside if level with the defender. However, goals are now being ruled out when a slither of toe or shoulder is a milimeter beyond the defender when the main bulk of the attackers body is actually level.

I think VAR should be used in the same way as in other sports such as cricket and Tennis. Each team can have a maximum of, say, two appeals during a game. That way obvious errors can be spotted without every single incident being painstakingly scrutinised.   I would view that as a good compromise.  

If the current approach persist then players will have to adapt by remaining well behind the defender, thus effectively giving the defence a head start when timing runs. I can't see that being good for the game and it will probably lead to fewer goal scoring opportunities.  
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I would place VAR in the same bin as the technology used to in-tune voices and instruments at festivals. Yes it makes someone like McCartney sound perfect in voice and backing but it sounds nothing like the real thing with all its duff notes and forgotten lyrics. If they could have made Woodstock aurally perfect would it be better?




You don't think Paul McCartney can sing!!

Blimey. Heard it all now.
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Goal line technology - yes but should be available for all games in a competition (PL or CL) or none at all (not selected games like only at PL stadia in the FA Cup as we fell foul of at Palace).

VAR in-game. Not for me.

Retrospective yellow cards (and rescinding of) for tallies for diving and conning refs would be more welcome than spooling back to see if someones half foot was in the box before a penalty was struck.
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The cheating side should be looked at, does VAR check if the player had dived for penalties, also when a player gets caught on his chest but goes down holding his face as if he'd been shot, is VAR checking this?
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Not a fan of VAR, it's in the prem so there we are. How will 3rd and 4th tier clubs afford the technology....? Just had a thought, let the prem pay!!!
For me it will ruin football well it already has. I think the time keeping should be done by the 4th official as in American NFL. I also think the offside rule should be changed so there has to be daylight between the last man and forward, that will stop the ' his toe is off side'.
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