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HertsGTFC
July 13, 2019, 10:12pm

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Clubs like our rear their own talent for one reason and one reason only to sell on. To think that clubs in the  bottom half of L2  bring on youngsters to help climb the leagues is a nice thought but in reality not in line with the current game.

Looking at where we are now to get cash for the likes of Burrell who came on a few times and ran around a bit and Curran who has only just signed his first pro deal is well worth co considering if it helps bring in half decent experienced striker on a 2 year deal.    

Not a popular opinion I know but it's one that reflects the current reality.  
    


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Yes, it seems to be widely believed that fatty Fry's attempts were successful for some reason. (I'm fairly sure the sell on showed in the 11-12 accounts?)


I am sure I recall reading/hearing at the time from Fenty's mouth that we played an instrumental role in the deal going through.  That instrumental role could have been a delay on the money coming our way, I'm not sure.

Fry is certainly slippery.  I wonder how many times he has got away with cancelling sell on clauses over the years?
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There was some extra confusion over whatever this was about (I remember we didn't get whatever it was): https://www.peterboroughtoday......ansfer-fee-1-6446671 , but we received the actual sell on.


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July 14, 2019, 5:53am
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I don’t think Jock actually signed a Pro deal with us. The reports that I have seen only suggest that it was offered.

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Quoted from 1542
I don’t think Jock actually signed a Pro deal with us. The reports that I have seen only suggest that it was offered.

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This, I wonder if he knew he was being watched and has held off signing?
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TBH I  can't see Jolley allowing him to return to training let alone participate in pre-season games if he was umming and arring  about signing a contract.
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TBH I  can't see Jolley allowing him to return to training let alone participate in pre-season games if he was umming and arring  about signing a contract.


Why wouldn't he? If we offered him a contract but he had interest from elsewhere, it's entirely within his rights to consider what is best for his future. Also, if we don't allow him to train, then that would essentially mean we are releasing him and not due any compensation for him.
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Quoted from lukeo


This, I wonder if he knew he was being watched and has held off signing?


The season ticket renewal pack booklet has a small section on the youngsters and says he signed in May.
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Whether we get a fee, whether it proves enough or not in the long term we can only wait and see....my bigger worry is that this is the second of the more fancied players in our youth/ yt progamme to be sold on.....i thought Jolley would be keen to bring these through and develop them with his background and the recent opportunities given to other youngsters....disappointing for me and hopefully not a trend that will continue.




While I agree with the point of your thread, the reality is that it is almost impossible to stop " bigger clubs " poaching talent from smaller clubs. They can offer better terms and facilities than we can and that is a fact. It's also easier to turn the head of a young player in making them think that the future is brighter elsewhere. You also have the appeal ( for a lot of youngsters at least ) of moving to a bigger town or city that has a better nightlife and social facilities. As long as we can consistently produce young players and turn a profit on them then surely that is good for the club. There is also the possibility of one or two being local and wanting to play for us as their " home club ".


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While I agree with the point of your thread, the reality is that it is almost impossible to stop " bigger clubs " poaching talent from smaller clubs. They can offer better terms and facilities than we can and that is a fact. It's also easier to turn the head of a young player in making them think that the future is brighter elsewhere. You also have the appeal ( for a lot of youngsters at least ) of moving to a bigger town or city that has a better nightlife and social facilities. As long as we can consistently produce young players and turn a profit on them then surely that is good for the club. There is also the possibility of one or two being local and wanting to play for us as their " home club ".


This has always been the case, maybe the difference is that the bigger clubs pick up players younger and that is an issue. At least when we were selling on the likes of Jimmy Fell, Brian Hill, Kev Moore, Kev Drinkell, John Oster etc..... we had a few games out of them first. They were the finished article.  I think we have to sell and needs must - if it is Curran for a few quid then it opens a porthole for another kid. But it does rankle if we don’t see the fruits of Woods’ labours grace the first team, at least for a short time, before moving on.



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