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Theimperialcoroner
June 6, 2019, 1:10am

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There’s a lot of doom and gloom about regarding GTFC at the moment, without any negative comments, what can the fans do to make it better?

I say no negative comments cos we get loads of them and it’s so easy to get wrapped up in a downward spiral, so how do we change that?


Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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Honestly. Find a way of changing the regime for the good.


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Investment in all areas.
Provide better match day experience
Engage with supporters


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And your scotch eggs are fu(king vile
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Can all these people who keep banging on about new investment / owners please stop. You know nothing. Also can Chris Parker stop sending cryptic tweets, it’s embarrassing


Never be positive about town
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Give us our pride back, give us a squad and a team that excite us playing attractive football..
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Give us a team to be proud of and that the fans can relate to.
I cant remember the last time we had a player that the fans chanted his name. Have fond memories of the peterborough service station with another 500 fans chanting the podge amond song.

Also communication between club and fans needs to be better. Never known such a quiet pre-season so far. All this does is get fans and the media rumouring about us signing ex-players.

Also. SORT THE NEW STADIUM OUT!!!
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June 6, 2019, 7:22am
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SImply give us a club that doesn't need to have its fans constantly asking what the fans can do to help. Like any other professional, well run club.


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June 6, 2019, 8:01am
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Quoted from RoboCod
SImply give us a club that doesn't need to have its fans constantly asking what the fans can do to help. Like any other professional, well run club.


Quite right we should be able to simply buy tickets and support our team the Club should be able enough to do everything else.
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Like Woz and Robo have stated above liaising with fans would go a long way, the club could tempt so many fans back if it did, just give the fans an incentive especially the younger fans, it can’t be that hard surely?


Grimsby and proud!
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Get some decent signings and a season of good performances on the pitch, then worry about the other stuff if we need to.


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Quoted from FrazerGTFC
Can all these people who keep banging on about new investment / owners please stop. You know nothing. Also can Chris Parker stop sending cryptic tweets, it’s embarrassing


So what do you know?
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June 6, 2019, 9:27am

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Quoted from Theimperialcoroner
without any negative comments, what can the fans do to make it better?


In short.......nothing    



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Quoted from Theimperialcoroner
There’s a lot of doom and gloom about regarding GTFC at the moment, without any negative comments, what can the fans do to make it better?

I say no negative comments cos we get loads of them and it’s so easy to get wrapped up in a downward spiral, so how do we change that?


It is impossible to answer without any negative comments, but the fans have done their bit over and above the call of duty.

The only thing that could happen now is either a change in the boardroom, which would bring huge positivity, or success on the field as the season progresses.

If it is true that season ticket sales are down, then things really are looking bleak.

A football club that goes so long without a change at the top will always suffer a drop in support; people get fed up, disenchanted, they want to be part of something on the up. We have to face it, until Fenty goes the club will continue to go backwards. Sorry to be negative, but it is obviously the truth and many fans like me who have had season tickets for donkeys years feel the same.
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Quoted from cmackenzie4
Like Woz and Robo have stated above liaising with fans would go a long way, the club could tempt so many fans back if it did, just give the fans an incentive especially the younger fans, it can’t be that hard surely?


Of all the responses, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.


Batch, Crombie, Moore K, Wiggington, Cumming, Waters, Bonnyman, Ford, Emson, Drinkell, Whymark. Love you all, You are the reason I'm on here. You've had help from Todd, Handyside, Futcher P, Groves, Mendonca, Macca etc etc etc. Up The Mariners!!!!!!!!!
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Quoted from Theimperialcoroner
There’s a lot of doom and gloom about regarding GTFC at the moment, without any negative comments, what can the fans do to make it better?

I say no negative comments cos we get loads of them and it’s so easy to get wrapped up in a downward spiral, so how do we change that?


The club needs..

A new stadium
Fresh investment
Fresh ideas
Better players
Better team performances
Better environment to watch home games at BP
Better matchday facilities at BP
Better engagement with the fans
Better marketing
Better pricing structure to encourage new fans young and old
Improvement in the club's tarnished reputation
Stop doing things the way they've always done them, like kit manufacturer etc
Stop setting themselves mediocre standards
Start setting higher standards for minute details and work upwards from there

After 20 years of shite, the fans can continue to patiently ignore the list above and..

Soldier on and keep going to matches
Keep trying to bring a friend or family member along even though you keep getting laughed at for doing so
Raise some cash for the club's playing budget even though they won't be grateful for it

Or.. take a good hard look at the long list at the top and admit that unless the club has someone in charge that can deal with it, there is very little fans can do to change anything in the short, medium or long term.. and that is why there is negativity, and a negativity that is so often blamed on the fans and not resolutely or consistently on the root cause, diluted by loyalty or vain hope where circumstances (football fortune) can somehow turn around how things are at present without the blindingly obvious shortfalls of cash, infrastructure and acumen in place..

No amount of rallying calls by the fans is going to get the lost fans through the gates of BP let alone buy a season ticket.. and no amount of GTFC summer engagement with fans of sloppy distribution and timing of season ticket launches and packs, GTTV, progress on pitch improvements, progress and non-progress of floodlight improvements, the launch of GTFC Ladies team, the "clever" social media marketing of the big Clee Town game, Peterborough and Donny at home and the usual trips around Lincolnshire, the original idea of asking fans to post their holiday snaps on social media over the summer, the rebuttal of interest in investment of GTFC, the new "state of the art" lift in the Findus, the promised small increase in playing budget, "not by much" from the meagre one last season, seemingly being always the last team in our division to sign a player after one or two who were expected to stay walked away and another gives a "come and get me call" to any club in the North West.. will turn this club around. It's fruitless, it's a busted flush because the club will think it has engaged and engaged well.

Hope and patience are the only two factors sprinkled with the last reserves of loyalty to our club. Hope.. that Jolley knits together a team to be proud of on a shoestring, edible food is on offer at half time along with a shorter queue for a pint and a pisss, and bog rolls in the toilets. And patience.. because one day, John Fenty will not be at the helm of our football club and then that long list at the top will hopefully be addressed properly. And fans can go back to going to games with friends and family members as in years gone by and not get laughed at by asking them.. "Are you off to the Town game on Saturday?"
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We know that doing the same things (every season) repeatedly, is the definition of insanity.

We have the lunatics running the asylum.  

What positivity can anyone reasonably expect to see?

I have become a cynical fan, after some 56 years of going.  I am worn down with the sheer  “nothingness” of everything, or nearly everything. The lack of hope for something to cling to.

We need change - from the top.
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June 6, 2019, 10:39am
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Quoted from Bigdog


And fans can go back to going to games with friends and family members as in years gone by and not get laughed at by asking them.. "Are you off to the Town game on Saturday?"


Would not disagree with your points but us fans have always been taunted on a Saturday lunchtime by non-attendees. My dad used to say every time I went to BP “You’re not going to give Wouldy your money are you? Must be barmy going to watch that shower.”



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It certainly doesn`t help with the pricing for younger Town fan`s to attend .A huge step in a better direction would be to address those prices unless I misread the list we are now the most expensive Club for under 18s to follow in League 2?
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The problem is that many of us thought that our conference years were just a blip in our clubs history and that once we back in the league we would be able to progress up the league. The reality is that were now a Macclesfield or Barnet that will flip between the conference and League 2. For a club of our history that's simply a disgrace.

I think we will get relegated next season. A good season will be somewhere between 50-60 points. Nothing is coming out of the club, it's as if it's died since Crewe:

1. No signings
2. Press and PR seems to have gone missing.
3. A really uninteresting pre season fixture list with 5 of the 7 teams were planning on playing 2 levels or worse below us.
4. The loss of a bright young thing and reports that players want to leave.
5. Virtually no effort to promote season tickets.

So what do they need to:

1. Firstly sign someone half decent, and just get on with it. even if it costs a bit of extra cash, you can then turn around to agents and say well he;s signed so all the fears are misplaced.
2. Start doing some positive stories about the club, literally anything will do - last year Jolley in the ticket office worked a treat but literally anything at this moment in time will be good. We used to be quite effective at this (remembers the John Lewis Christmas video).
3. Learn the lesson - Sick to the back teeth of Gainsborough, Grantham and Boston. Do something interesting next season. Even if you can't get a big name try and get somewhere like Harrogate away for the Yorkshire exiles.
4. To be fair we have tied younger players down with long contracts but at least have some press about players who are looking forward to next season. Everything I've seen is about players leaving/wanting to leave.
5. I'm not sure what I have to do get an email from the club. I make sure I tick the box to receive information but I'm not asked to buy one even though I buy a fair whack of tickets for home games every season. Surely I should be getting bombarded?
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For a start the club should end it's them and us,

We should be one all pulling in the right direction lets make it a community club before we move into a community stadium.

Reduce the price of kids they are the future ,we should be encouraging families to attend and make it affordable for them.

When or if we move into a new stadium we will have an extra 4,000 + seats so lets fill them with fans who think their view count and feel a part of a club who values them.

Most of the negatives that come out of the club comes from Fenty so the sooner someone else takes over the better.


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Quoted from FrazerGTFC
Can all these people who keep banging on about new investment / owners please stop. You know nothing. Also can Chris Parker stop sending cryptic tweets, it’s embarrassing


i am with you Frazer .....otherwise we will be doooomed....dooomed i tell ya...


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I was speaking with someone at the weekend who has worked for the club. Funnily enough he said another of many Fenty (mis) traits is killing any positivity stone dead with a stupid comment over something trivial.

We have all had bosses like that I am sure - the workforce is on a high but somebody somewhere has to be shown who is the boss over some trifling thing which knocks the stuffing out of you.

The quicker he is away from the club the better for all concerned.
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June 7, 2019, 4:18pm
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Quoted from grimsby pete
For a start the club should end it's them and us,


Its a good job the Fishy users don't have the same attitude because things would be fooked
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Quoted from Rob_in_Grimsby


Its a good job the Fishy users don't have the same attitude because things would be fooked


The thing is Rob.. the club is fooked. Decaying stadium, falling attendances, no new investment and an owner where it's clearly apparent that his ceiling of ability for the club is avoiding relegation to non league or dropping into non league going by the indisputable evidence of the past fifteen years. If you and your mate don't think things are fooked, god help GTFC, the complete denial of where we exactly are and the owner and staff running the club in their own self-congratulatory comfort zones is pretty bloody scary in my opinion..
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Quoted from grimsby pete
For a start the club should end it's them and us,

We should be one all pulling in the right direction lets make it a community club before we move into a community stadium.

Reduce the price of kids they are the future ,we should be encouraging families to attend and make it affordable for them.

When or if we move into a new stadium we will have an extra 4,000 + seats so lets fill them with fans who think their view count and feel a part of a club who values them.

Most of the negatives that come out of the club comes from Fenty so the sooner someone else takes over the better.


Just bought my ticket for the Euro Millions super draw tonight - £114 million
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June 7, 2019, 7:40pm

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Just bought my ticket for the Euro Millions super draw tonight - £114 million


Good luck you could go mad and invest £14 million in town,

AND

Still have £100 million to flitter away.


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