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pizzzza
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Looks like it might be Black & White stripes....

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByPtSuFpEj8/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Quoted from pizzzza
Looks like it might be Black & White strips....

https://www.instagram.com/p/ByPtSuFpEj8/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


With some red I think.....



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Looks very similar to the 16/17 one with the fading element... Let's hope this shirt proves to be just as successful!


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Dear oh dear, what a completely pointless ‘sneak peak’ that is. Here’s a glimpse of the bottom 10th of the shirt!
Bit of a wasted opportunity to generate interest/sales.
At least show the back or half the shirt or summat.
Ditto the ‘hard work at Blundell park continues' photo reel. Here’s a picture of a drill, and a seat rail and a brown stained titchy room that looks like an ex solitary confinement cell that’s to become a toilet and baby change facility!
Here are some shots of us polishing a turd whilst we attempt to pass this off as investment/ambition.

My pulse is racing, it really is.
10 people with low expectations have red crossed this. Bless them....


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Think we are the only club who only does sneaky peaks why not just release the whole shirt


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Looks promising


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I stopped buying new shirts years ago. We’ve had Errea since 2008 and Young’s as a club sponsor since 2004, there’s only so many designs they can do, wouldn’t mind a change in both some time. Not criticising Young’s as a sponsor just we’ve looked the same for over a decade bar a few fades and trims. The changes aren’t as drastic as what they were back when we had Avec kits. I’ll stick to my 98 shirt. 😉


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Quoted from chaos33
Dear oh dear, what a completely pointless ‘sneak peak’ that is. Here’s a glimpse of the bottom 10th of the shirt!
Bit of a wasted opportunity to generate interest/sales.
At least show the back or half the shirt or summat.
Ditto the ‘hard work at Blundell park continues' photo reel. Here’s a picture of a drill, and a seat rail and a brown stained titchy room that looks like an ex solitary confinement cell that’s to become a toilet and baby change facility!
Here are some shots of us polishing a turd whilst we attempt to pass this off as investment/ambition.

My pulse is racing, it really is.
10 people with low expectations have red crossed this. Bless them....


Miserable twit
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I don’t mind Errea, at least it’s not just the same design as everyone else wearing the bigger brands.

As for Young’s...they can stay forever, for me. Their logo looks great on the shirt, it’s a big recognisable brand, and it actually means something to the local area.


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Quoted from chaos33
Dear oh dear, what a completely pointless ‘sneak peak’ that is. Here’s a glimpse of the bottom 10th of the shirt!
Bit of a wasted opportunity to generate interest/sales.
At least show the back or half the shirt or summat.
Ditto the ‘hard work at Blundell park continues' photo reel. Here’s a picture of a drill, and a seat rail and a brown stained titchy room that looks like an ex solitary confinement cell that’s to become a toilet and baby change facility!
Here are some shots of us polishing a turd whilst we attempt to pass this off as investment/ambition.

My pulse is racing, it really is.
10 people with low expectations have red crossed this. Bless them....

I am one of your red crossers, is it not the intention of the club to build up the hype prior to the release of the shirt? If you criticised that tactic and whether it would work or not I may have green crossed you. But it looks to me, as Supertown points out, that you are are just being a miserable twit and having a go at the club because it’s the current trend.

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All this talk of the club feeling to get the fans excited or what not is getting boring. Ultimately, the only thing that does that is success on the pitch, not a kit launch or other media stuff. People say we failed to capitalise on the success of promotion compares to other teams, but the comparisons are always almost always with teams who won the league compared to how we did it. Yes it was a great moment for the diehards, but it wasn't a scincilating season to bring in the non die hards. Theres a reason it was our lowest wembley turn out. It's getting a bit boring people going on a negative tangent every time the club does anything.
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The fade in shirts are not the most flattering and are somewhat unforgiving for the average overweight and out of shape person  ... and the shirts won't look that good on the fans either
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I really liked the faded shirt ( promotion one wasn't it)? so hopefully its like that again, I haven't bought a shirt for the last few years, think that pink one we all went mad over was the last one?
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Quoted from Gainsbro_Mariner
I stopped buying new shirts years ago. We’ve had Errea since 2008 and Young’s as a club sponsor since 2004, there’s only so many designs they can do, wouldn’t mind a change in both some time. Not criticising Young’s as a sponsor just we’ve looked the same for over a decade bar a few fades and trims. The changes aren’t as drastic as what they were back when we had Avec kits. I’ll stick to my 98 shirt. 😉


I like thw Youngs logo, when my mate (real sociadad) was over from Spain he was impressed we had such a big name on the shirt and took some selfies in his shirt back home with youngs products in the Supermercado lol.
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Blue away shirt looks like it has orange with it too


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Looking forward to more tiny snippets of the new design all week.
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I don't see the problem with Youngs as shirt sponsors regardless oh how long they have been. They are a household name, keep our connection with the fishing industry and also reinforce our "Food Town" credentials. For all we know they could be the best deal available so why change it? It makes me laugh when posters on here who have no knowledge or insight into what is available as potential sponsors criticise the club. Still, for some it's just another way to get their jollys by kicking the club.


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I don't see the problem with Youngs as shirt sponsors regardless oh how long they have been. They are a household name, keep our connection with the fishing industry and also reinforce our "Food Town" credentials. For all we know they could be the best deal available so why change it? It makes me laugh when posters on here who have no knowledge or insight into what is available as potential sponsors criticise the club. Still, for some it's just another way to get their jollys by kicking the club.


Couldn't agree more, local company with a national profile and fish. What is there not to love about that?

Rather that than some unheard of Thai betting company like a lot
of Prem/Champ clubs or some asbestos firm a la the gimps.
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Yeah I like Young’s as a club sponsor for all the above reasons. The only thing I don’t like is the logo on the back of the shirt. For anyone who’s seen the sneak peak picture on Twitter, there’s the nice embroidered 3 fish on the back just below the collar, but for me that’s spoiled by the logo directly under it, and also the players name is going to be really low down the back of the shirt.


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Yeah I like Young’s as a club sponsor for all the above reasons. The only thing I don’t like is the logo on the back of the shirt. For anyone who’s seen the sneak peak picture on Twitter, there’s the nice embroidered 3 fish on the back just below the collar, but for me that’s spoiled by the logo directly under it, and also the players name is going to be really low down the back of the shirt.


My gripe with the sponsor on the back of the shirt is that we have Young’s sponsoring it. Why not try and get another company to pay for that spot? More money!
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My gripe with the sponsor on the back of the shirt is that we have Young’s sponsoring it. Why not try and get another company to pay for that spot? More money!


And a sleeve get a sponsor on that to


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Quoted from rancido
I don't see the problem with Youngs as shirt sponsors regardless oh how long they have been. They are a household name, keep our connection with the fishing industry and also reinforce our "Food Town" credentials. For all we know they could be the best deal available so why change it? It makes me laugh when posters on here who have no knowledge or insight into what is available as potential sponsors criticise the club. Still, for some it's just another way to get their jollys by kicking the club.


Agree I like my shirts with YOUNGS  on them a good Grimsby company sponsoring the club.


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Looking forward to more tiny snippets of the new design all week.


You must lead a sad life ☹️
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Whoosh.....
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Looks really smart, home shirt has alot of unique details, away shirt looks really good, worried I might have to get both if errea smash it again
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And a sleeve get a sponsor on that to


And one on the shorts, side and back, and don’t forget the socks. So we can end up with a kit looking like those abominations in Brazil.


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Black sleeves !!!!!
i was brought up on white sleeves for a Town shirt ...but some of the details like the neck and the collar fish look nice.




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Black sleeves and collar. The complete opposite to how I’d design a Town shirt given a chance but I do like the three fish detail on the back. The away and third are OK.
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It would appear the shirt has been leaked on Twitter by one of the fans who invited to the clubs photoshoot today, the tweet which includes a picture of the shirt has been deleted now but surely in this day and age somebody can find it again? Unfortunately I don't know how but somebody must know how to find it?
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It would appear the shirt has been leaked on Twitter by one of the fans who invited to the clubs photoshoot today, the tweet which includes a picture of the shirt has been deleted now but surely in this day and age somebody can find it again? Unfortunately I don't know how but somebody must know how to find it?


Well no lets not find it. The club have invited fans to launch the kit and some total sharp object has decided to put it all over twitter before the official launch. We ask the club to include the fans more..... well bellends like that are the reason why not. So no Aaron, lets not find it
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Seconded Hagrid. It’s not a state secret but the person concerned has done us no favours at all.


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Someone post the pictures. I really can't fathom how someone putting a picture up causes any 'damage' what-so-ever.


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Quoted from Chrisblor
Someone post the pictures. I really can't fathom how someone putting a picture up causes any 'damage' what-so-ever.


It’s more a breach of trust. If you’re given a sneak peak you don’t blab about it.


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Quoted from Chrisblor
Someone post the pictures. I really can't fathom how someone putting a picture up causes any 'damage' what-so-ever.


You lose trust Chris, you lose trust.


Grimsby till I die.
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You lose trust Chris, you lose trust.


No.  You lose trust with that individual.  Let's not tarnish everyone eh.





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Hopefully it won't put the club from doing the same next year. Lessons learnt will be to put all electronic devices into a secure locker prior to entering the room.
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My gripe with the sponsor on the back of the shirt is that we have Young’s sponsoring it. Why not try and get another company to pay for that spot? More money!


I think this is being misinterpreted as moaning for moaning’s sake on Twitter. What I meant was why not have Young’s on the front and find a different company for the back? Two seperate sponsor spots, two contracts, more money coming in. Think of it as constructive criticism rather than moaning.
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No.  You lose trust with that individual.  Let's not tarnish everyone eh.





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Seen the leaked kits. They’re a bit pants to be honest. I’ve really liked the designs in recent years.
To be fair I’m not that arsed it will be more about who plays in them.
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Jesus Christ, all this fannnying around for a kit launch that the same three thousand fans are going to buy. Sneak peeks etc aren't going to make a blind bit of difference to the eventual sales numbers, the complete design of the kits may do, ie like the pink kit two seasons ago. Just launch the damn things and get them sold..
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Quoted from Meza


No.  You lose trust with that individual.  Let's not tarnish everyone eh.



Usually we loose trust on here!


They come from down the road
6 fingers on one hand
Their brother is their uncle
And their auntie is their gran

They're friendly with their cousins
and own 3 caravans
Their banjos play forever dancing in the barn

Allez allez allez


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Quoted from Bigdog
Jesus Christ, all this fannnying around for a kit launch that the same three thousand fans are going to buy. Sneak peeks etc aren't going to make a blind bit of difference to the eventual sales numbers, the complete design of the kits may do, ie like the pink kit two seasons ago. Just launch the damn things and get them sold..


So your attitude is slag the club off for not trying to raise any interest, then slag them off when they do. For what it's worth, I agree with you, but you do pick fault with absolutely everything!
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Tbf, all 3 kits actually look quite smart


They come from down the road
6 fingers on one hand
Their brother is their uncle
And their auntie is their gran

They're friendly with their cousins
and own 3 caravans
Their banjos play forever dancing in the barn

Allez allez allez


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Loved the over-reaction this weekend of someone leaking the pics.

It's a pretty crappy thing to do but anyone would think it was state secrets that getting leaked.  

It's a bloody football kit!  I've not seen the pics, not really bothered about seeing them either, but you can guarantee that the home one will be black and white stripes and not that much different from the last however many years we've worn black and white.  
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Don't care about the kits, home will be based on b&w and if I buy one will totally depend if the last one I had is worn out or not, as don't tend to wear them other than at games or when playing football (usually in goal so use a keepers shirt). Just don't get peoples excitement that's all, but do enjoy if that's what floats your boat.
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Im surprised by a lot of the attitudes on this thread. People are constantly putting the club down for not making more effort with things, and not trying to work on the relationship with the fans. Yet here the club are making an effort, appearing a little more modern, involving fans in the kit release, teasing the kits (with high quality well produced shots), in order to try to build some excitement around the kit release, which is a key point of interest for lots of fans and of course one of the clubs money making opportunities.

If you don't care, then fine, ignore the coverage - you will get to see the kit when its released as normal. No harm done.

I for one think its a (very small) well meaning and positive effort, which may just result in a little more interest, with a few more conversations between fans in the build up, and so hopefully a few extra purchases. That can only be good.
Well done from me.
And the blue kit has peaked my interest so I wait with anticipation to see it in full.

And as for the idiot who shared pictures early, I find that shocking. If this whole effort is to increase fan engagement and  interest in the club, and increase income, then you have (in some very tiny way) damaged the club! Not cool!

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So your attitude is slag the club off for not trying to raise any interest, then slag them off when they do. For what it's worth, I agree with you, but you do pick fault with absolutely everything!


I just want my club to fulfil its potential in everything it does. From the minute details to the big decisions, after all we’re supposed to be a professional club and a PLC. Find so many missed opportunities and amateurish ways really frustrating. Want my club to be better and more inventive and original han it is and it could be with a little more thought and effort. Write me a list of all the things that the club has nailed, got spot on and couldn’t be any better at it if they tried and I’ll shut up. Dumbed down operations have led to dumbed down expectations. That’ll do or one or two errors don’t matter or let’s copy what someone else did ten years ago is not good enough for what I want for my club..

I don’t want to slag my club off but how they operate exasperates me. Look at where we are, Mickey Mouse and amateur hour..
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I just want my club to fulfil its potential in everything it does. From the minute details to the big decisions, after all we’re supposed to be a professional club and a PLC. Find so many missed opportunities and amateurish ways really frustrating. Want my club to be better and more inventive and original han it is and it could be with a little more thought and effort. Write me a list of all the things that the club has nailed, got spot on and couldn’t be any better at it if they tried and I’ll shut up. Dumbed down operations have led to dumbed down expectations. That’ll do or one or two errors don’t matter or let’s copy what someone else did ten years ago is not good enough for what I want for my club..

I don’t want to slag my club off but how they operate exasperates me. Look at where we are, Mickey Mouse and amateur hour..

Why don't you get off your backside and get involved with your hometown club and make a difference. Always slagging everything the club does. People that are simply trying to do their best. It may not be to your liking or others on this forum. Just tell us what you contribute? Or have done from behind your pseudonym. UTM


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Why don't you get off your backside and get involved with your hometown club and make a difference. Always slagging everything the club does. People that are simply trying to do their best. It may not be to your liking or others on this forum. Just tell us what you contribute? Or have done from behind your pseudonym. UTM


Pseudonym. Sonik??

OK we know who you are - blood is thicker than water and all that but we cannot contribute f all because your brother has got a stranglehold on the club, and has made a complete mess of it.

We just pay and go to the games, but don't want our money back.
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I just want my club to fulfil its potential in everything it does. From the minute details to the big decisions, after all we’re supposed to be a professional club and a PLC. Find so many missed opportunities and amateurish ways really frustrating. Want my club to be better and more inventive and original han it is and it could be with a little more thought and effort. Write me a list of all the things that the club has nailed, got spot on and couldn’t be any better at it if they tried and I’ll shut up. Dumbed down operations have led to dumbed down expectations. That’ll do or one or two errors don’t matter or let’s copy what someone else did ten years ago is not good enough for what I want for my club..

I don’t want to slag my club off but how they operate exasperates me. Look at where we are, Mickey Mouse and amateur hour..



Crikey would hate to read what you would put if you did want to slag it off. Have a day off would ya!! Moaning old illegitimate, damned if they do, damned if they don't in whatever the club does in your eyes!!  
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Why don't you get off your backside and get involved with your hometown club and make a difference. Always slagging everything the club does. People that are simply trying to do their best. It may not be to your liking or others on this forum. Just tell us what you contribute? Or have done from behind your pseudonym. UTM


I can understand your frustration Sonik.  But on more than one occasion John has turned down offers of help from the fans. Myself included. He didn’t even appreciate us raising over £100,000.00. So whilst I personally don’t have a go at everything he does, I won’t be offering my services in the near future.  As always, I hope that this is the season we turn things around. But as always it’s more in hope than expectation. UTM.


I wouldn’t say my Ex Mrs is loose.

But she’s just completed Tinder !!
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Why don't you get off your backside and get involved with your hometown club and make a difference. Always slagging everything the club does. People that are simply trying to do their best. It may not be to your liking or others on this forum. Just tell us what you contribute? Or have done from behind your pseudonym. UTM


Already offered Sonik, brand building, marketing, PR, copywriting etc for free. Wasn't required, John knows best. Anyway, a change of ideology would be needed to make a difference which can't happen because your brother can't see past his own ideology. Too hands on any doesn't trust that anyone can do better. From a professional point of view, the club has dumbed down over the past couple of decades, probably since Alec King left. I don't care if people are doing their best, it just isn't good enough on the pitch or off the pitch. The club, the owner, his family and cohorts are bringing this club down to a very low level. Too much personal thinking from them going on rather than putting the club first. If the standards aren't good enough get professionals in, they may return the investment in them in spades.

How about marketing the final line drawings of the kits when they were finalised two or three months ago, collect email addresses etc of those interested and email them back a few days before launch. Extra exposure time, build up the awareness over a longer period so some kids can save up? And how about having an open kit launch day with the players etc when the club shop is ready to sell them? Just basic marketing..

And when your brother can deliver a football team that can finish higher than in the bottom half of the Fourth Division and in a stadium that's suitable for the modern day fan.. you can come back to me then..

The Fenty family etc are so far personally in, they cannot see the damage that has been done to the club over the past two decades..

And the truth is after 50 years of supporting my club I've never been so disillusioned with how it's being run. 15/17 years on and absolutely no improvement in anything, and most things just getting worse and more amateurish. Cheesed off fans getting chastised by Fentyistas on a fan's forum as if something magical has happened at BP during his tenure, you couldn't make it up, ffs..
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Crikey would hate to read what you would put if you did want to slag it off. Have a day off would ya!! Moaning old illegitimate, damned if they do, damned if they don't in whatever the club does in your eyes!!  


You have nothing of relevance to say in any debate.. so jog on..
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Already offered Sonik, brand building, marketing, PR, copywriting etc for free. Wasn't required, John knows best. Anyway, a change of ideology would be needed to make a difference which can't happen because your brother can't see past his own ideology. Too hands on any doesn't trust that anyone can do better. From a professional point of view, the club has dumbed down over the past couple of decades, probably since Alec King left. I don't care if people are doing their best, it just isn't good enough on the pitch or off the pitch. The club, the owner, his family and cohorts are bringing this club down to a very low level. Too much personal thinking from them going on rather than putting the club first. If the standards aren't good enough get professionals in, they may return the investment in them in spades.

How about marketing the final line drawings of the kits when they were finalised two or three months ago, collect email addresses etc of those interested and email them back a few days before launch. Extra exposure time, build up the awareness over a longer period so some kids can save up? And how about having an open kit launch day with the players etc when the club shop is ready to sell them? Just basic marketing..

And when your brother can deliver a football team that can finish higher than in the bottom half of the Fourth Division and in a stadium that's suitable for the modern day fan.. you can come back to me then..

The Fenty family etc are so far personally in, they cannot see the damage that has been done to the club over the past two decades..

And the truth is after 50 years of supporting my club I've never been so disillusioned with how it's being run. 15/17 years on and absolutely no improvement in anything, and most things just getting worse and more amateurish..


How many businesses do you run? What's your area of expertise? What are your skills? What experience do you have? Have you got a proven track record? How successful have you been? Where do you see yourself in 3 years? What exactly can you bring to the table? There is probably a reason or 2 behind why he hasn't accepted your offer but as we don't know anything about you how can we side with you and say that JF is in the wrong for not accepting what you have offered?
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Already offered Sonik, brand building, marketing, PR, copywriting etc for free. Wasn't required, John knows best. Anyway, a change of ideology would be needed to make a difference which can't happen because your brother can't see past his own ideology. Too hands on any doesn't trust that anyone can do better. From a professional point of view, the club has dumbed down over the past couple of decades, probably since Alec King left. I don't care if people are doing their best, it just isn't good enough on the pitch or off the pitch. The club, the owner, his family and cohorts are bringing this club down to a very low level. Too much personal thinking from them going on rather than putting the club first. If the standards aren't good enough get professionals in, they may return the investment in them in spades.

How about marketing the final line drawings of the kits when they were finalised two or three months ago, collect email addresses etc of those interested and email them back a few days before launch. Extra exposure time, build up the awareness over a longer period so some kids can save up? And how about having an open kit launch day with the players etc when the club shop is ready to sell them? Just basic marketing..

And when your brother can deliver a football team that can finish higher than in the bottom half of the Fourth Division and in a stadium that's suitable for the modern day fan.. you can come back to me then..

The Fenty family etc are so far personally in, they cannot see the damage that has been done to the club over the past two decades..

And the truth is after 50 years of supporting my club I've never been so disillusioned with how it's being run. 15/17 years on and absolutely no improvement in anything, and most things just getting worse and more amateurish..


How many businesses do you run? What's your area of expertise? What are your skills? What experience do you have? Have you got a proven track record? How successful have you been? Where do you see yourself in 3 years? What exactly can you bring to the table? There is probably a reason or 2 behind why he hasn't accepted your offer but as we don't know anything about you how can we side with you and say that JF is in the wrong for not accepting what you have offered?
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How many businesses do you run? What's your area of expertise? What are your skills? What experience do you have? Have you got a proven track record? How successful have you been? Where do you see yourself in 3 years? What exactly can you bring to the table? There is probably a reason or 2 behind why he hasn't accepted your offer but as we don't know anything about you how can we side with you and say that JF is in the wrong for not accepting what you have offered?


Cant see  you getting an answer to that to be fair, You will probably find hes a failed businessman who now sells  time shares abroad and spends nothing on the club what so ever,
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Cant see  you getting an answer to that to be fair, You will probably find hes a failed businessman who now sells  time shares abroad and spends nothing on the club what so ever,


Silence is golden!
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Back to the thread title "New Home Shirt", looks like it's been revealed earlier than planned    


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Back to the thread title "New Home Shirt", looks like it's been revealed earlier than planned    


Seen a few photos on Facebook today so now the cats out the bag the club may as well release the full pictures themselves

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Cant see  you getting an answer to that to be fair, You will probably find hes a failed businessman who now sells  time shares abroad and spends nothing on the club what so ever,


Watch every match on i-Follow. Last two companies I consulted for..

First, rebuilt online identity and quadrupled web turnover within nine months.. and the other.. after a rebrand, secured them twice as many customers in one year than they had done in total in the previous four years..

So.. how have Town done in the past fifteen years? Charging up the leagues? Infrastructure rebuilt? Digitalised yet? Growing customer base?
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Watch every match on i-Follow. Last two companies I consulted for..

First, rebuilt online identity and quadrupled web turnover within nine months.. and the other.. after a rebrand, secured them twice as many customers in one year than they had done in total in the previous four years..

So.. how have Town done in the past fifteen years? Charging up the leagues? Infrastructure rebuilt? Digitalised yet? Growing customer base?


So, still not putting anything into the club then? Watching on ifollow leads me to assume you're not uk based anynore. And hardly an impressive cv you've stated you've been a fan 50 or so years so again assuming age range between 55-60 & that's all you've achieved business wise and you want JF to take advice?
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Watch every match on i-Follow. Last two companies I consulted for..

First, rebuilt online identity and quadrupled web turnover within nine months.. and the other.. after a rebrand, secured them twice as many customers in one year than they had done in total in the previous four years..

So.. how have Town done in the past fifteen years? Charging up the leagues? Infrastructure rebuilt? Digitalised yet? Growing customer base?


I don't think it merits an answer Bigdog but fair play for giving one.

This is a fans forum. It is not our job to be questioned on what our abilities are in a hypothetical situation of running the club.

It is to comment on the club and all things connected with it. Most of us give the  club money by supporting it, and many of us have given decades more support than the current custodians.

All the facts show that everything about the Fenty regime has been a failure, on and off the field. It is no good his family members trying to deflect critisism of the club here and elsewhere on social media by retaliating against the fans as it will not wash.

Get a grip, get the club moving forward and give us something to look forward to otherwise 2000 season ticket holders or less will be the result.

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So, still not putting anything into the club then? Watching on ifollow leads me to assume you're not uk based anynore. And hardly an impressive cv you've stated you've been a fan 50 or so years so again assuming age range between 55-60 & that's all you've achieved business wise and you want JF to take advice?


My long term business, I built from nothing to a 2m turnover. Still.. less of me and you trying to be personal. JF obviously did well out of fish, how's he getting on in football? After all this is a GTFC forum and that is what we talk about on here expressing our own personal opinions about the club's performance and how we think it can improve..

Club earns from my i-Follow subscription, and I've probably gone to at least a thousand or two matches following Town, but of course my opinion or concern doesn't matter, like anyone else who doesn't toe the Fenty line. Slippery slope the club's on, every remaining fan is very precious, and vacuous sheep like you will never grasp that. I want the club to be better than it's been for the past fifteen years, what's wrong with that? Just because it's outside of your darling John's capabilities, doesn't mean it isn't a realistic dream to have..
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My long term business, I built from nothing to a 2m turnover. Still.. less of me and you trying to be personal. JF obviously did well out of fish, how's he getting on in football? After all this is a GTFC forum and that is what we talk about on here expressing our own personal opinions about the club's performance and how we think it can improve..

Club earns from my i-Follow subscription, and I've probably gone to at least a thousand or two matches following Town, but of course my opinion or concern doesn't matter, like anyone else who doesn't toe the Fenty line. Slippery slope the club's on, every remaining fan is very precious, and vacuous sheep like you will never grasp that. I want the club to be better than it's been for the past fifteen years, what's wrong with that? Just because it's outside of your darling John's capabilities, doesn't mean it isn't a realistic dream to have..


I am just genuinely curious to know why you think you are the one that JF needs to take the club forward? It's nothing to do with being one who toes the line I am not a sheep either I can see the good the bad and the ugly in this current regime.
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I am just genuinely curious to know why you think you are the one that JF needs to take the club forward? It's nothing to do with being one who toes the line I am not a sheep either I can see the good the bad and the ugly in this current regime.


Ok.. what's the bad and the ugly in this current regime then? Here's your platform right now..
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Would love to know how many threads turn into pro/anti Fenty debates.

Haha couldn't make it up.
No outcome from it at all........
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Ok.. what's the bad and the ugly in this regime then? Here's your platform right now..


I'm not going to post my opinions just so you can pick them apart and read between the lines etc. I was asking you why you feel that JF should have taken you up on your offer. You above anyone else and what credentials you had that the club needs that he is missing out on by not accepting your offer. You replied with a few lines but that didn't make me think Oh wow this guy really knows what he's doing JF is missing a trick here. Bigdog is right, JF really should take him up on it. As for The good the bad and the ugly, it's saying, please don't take it literally.
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I'm not going to post my opinions just so you can pick them apart and read between the lines etc. I was asking you why you feel that JF should have taken you up on your offer. You above anyone else and what credentials you had that the club needs that he is missing out on by not accepting your offer. You replied with a few lines but that didn't make me think Oh wow this guy really knows what he's doing JF is missing a trick here. Bigdog is right, JF really should take him up on it. As for The good the bad and the ugly, it's saying, please don't take it literally.


Well.. in fairness, you shouldn't really be picking apart other people then..

I've been more than patient and open with you tonight defending myself when I really shouldn't have to. Let's give it a rest for now...
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As I'm reading it Bigdog has offered support in an area he is experienced in, which the club has been poor at. He's shared this having been accused of doing nothing to help. Now he's having his credentials picked apart by some sycophant as though he's pitching for some massive contract.

Other people have done lots to try to support the club but they all tend to walk away eventually with one apparent constant....
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As I'm reading it Bigdog has offered support in an area he is experienced in, which the club has been poor at. He's shared this having been accused of doing nothing to help. Now he's having his credentials picked apart by some sycophant as though he's pitching for some massive contract.

Other people have done lots to try to support the club but they all tend to walk away eventually with one apparent constant....


Rodley, I offered my support the day after that infamous Fan's Forum. Even though I was so angry about the treatment of Matt Dean, the dismissal of the Operation Promotion money, shut up, etc. Club before self every time and I was willing to help the club dig themselves out of a deep hole. A couple of days later there was that unapologetic snooker table interview, and a few months after, that secret recording. Like I've said and many others have too, due to the fixed ideology at the club, any new ideas or proposed changes in direction will always be met with a brick wall.. and therefore those people in charge have to stand by and be measured by their record as custodians and be answerable to their paying customers..
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Rodley, I offered my support the day after that infamous Fan's Forum. Even though I was so angry about the treatment of Matt Dean, the dismissal of the Operation Promotion money, shut up, etc. Club before self every time and I was willing to help the club dig themselves out of a deep hole. A couple of days later there was that unapologetic snooker table interview, and a few months after, that secret recording. Like I've said and many others have too, due to the fixed ideology at the club, any new ideas or proposed changes in direction will always be met with a brick wall.. and therefore those people in charge have to stand by and be measured by their record as custodians and be answerable to their paying customers..


You can mention that forum, the secret recording, slagging off Operation Promotion, the snooker table interview, continued years of an under performing team and a  complete lack of innovation but I happen to think our PR and marketing has been very good, I just can't be bothered explaining how to you.
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How many businesses do you run? What's your area of expertise? What are your skills? What experience do you have? Have you got a proven track record? How successful have you been? Where do you see yourself in 3 years? What exactly can you bring to the table? There is probably a reason or 2 behind why he hasn't accepted your offer but as we don't know anything about you how can we side with you and say that JF is in the wrong for not accepting what you have offered?


flipping hell, the guy’s just proved in one paragraph why he knows what he’s talking about. Why does he need people like you to ask half arsed interview questions. Correction why do we need people like you to ask halfarsed questions questioning his qualities. Are you a member of the club board or closely related to one? You have a very defensive, negative mindset.


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Ha ha! Just read the last two pages of this thread. Fishyfishtails, you have, in the vernacular of the youngsters, been completely owned by Bigdog.  😂

If I were you, I’d stop digging.

If I were John Fenty I’d deny knowing you or having anything to do with you because you are not doing him any favours st all.


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The dog is a clever dog without real change of direction how can we possibly move forward
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Silence is golden!


Well WTF have Fenty and his cronies delivered that`s been positive in the last 17 years go on name one positive?
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You can mention that forum, the secret recording, slagging off Operation Promotion, the snooker table interview, continued years of an under performing team and a  complete lack of innovation but I happen to think our PR and marketing has been very good, I just can't be bothered explaining how to you.


Genuinely intrigued Rodley as to what you think has been good in terms of PR and even more so marketing it continues to be my biggest gripe?
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Rodley, I offered my support the day after that infamous Fan's Forum. Even though I was so angry about the treatment of Matt Dean, the dismissal of the Operation Promotion money, shut up, etc. Club before self every time and I was willing to help the club dig themselves out of a deep hole. A couple of days later there was that unapologetic snooker table interview, and a few months after, that secret recording. Like I've said and many others have too, due to the fixed ideology at the club, any new ideas or proposed changes in direction will always be met with a brick wall.. and therefore those people in charge have to stand by and be measured by their record as custodians and be answerable to their paying customers..


Quite a few people came forward and offered help they spent considerable time and effort in doing research in the process passed it onto the Club and...................................................................
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Genuinely intrigued Rodley as to what you think has been good in terms of PR and even more so marketing it continues to be my biggest gripe?


I could be wrong but I believe his tongue was firmly in his cheek. If it wasn’t, I suspect the men in white coats have already got him.


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It was very much tongue in cheek. Effectively what Fishy Fishtails was saying though.
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Genuinely intrigued Rodley as to what you think has been good in terms of PR and even more so marketing it continues to be my biggest gripe?


The PR and marketing at this club has been dog do for years, ran with no PR and marketing experience. When fans with said experience offer their help and support the club get very defensive. Yes I can see why, nobody likes being criticised, but if the lack of nous at the club does more harm to it than good and I hope the current custodians (I’m talking as a whole and not the board alone)

I bang on about it all the time. But the club and its staff simply aren’t interested in listening to fans with plans. Even the club shop staff slagged off Op Pro as ‘it took money from the clubs pocket’. They would mind, if a couple of volunteers were doing my job better than me I’d get like that.
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I am just genuinely curious to know why you think you are the one that JF needs to take the club forward? It's nothing to do with being one who toes the line I am not a sheep either I can see the good the bad and the ugly in this current regime.


The bloke in the white suit and big white hat that stands for the Monster Raving Loony Party would likely move the club forward better than the current shower that run it.
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The issue for me isn't if Bigdog, or anyone else on this forum, has the required skills to move the club forward.  It's the worrying fact that the club is of the belief that it already has the in-house expertise.

Opinions on how the club are run are fine and should be respected, but I'm afraid the evidence of the clubs movement is quite evident.  Have we moved forward on ticket sales? No.  Have we moved forward with commercial activity? No.    It's that simple I'm afraid.  

I'm sure the latest accounts reveal a drop in commercial revenue, we can butter this up whichever we like but it's a failure.  It has been for the last however many years.  If anyone, either inside or outside the club, feels that the marketing campaign (or lack of ) for season tickets this summer is anywhere near acceptable they need their head checking out.  

Bigdog has raised many points, as have many other posters, of areas where the club are going wrong.  Now the club or their chronies can sneer at these and take the attitude of 'well what do they know' or they can take it as a customer feedback and act upon it.  There's a reason why the biggest and most successful companies pay through the nose for focus groups, it's to get a steer on where they want their products and services to go.  The opinions of the fans on here, Twitter, Facebook etc. are free feedback!  You would expect to pay top money to get that in other walks of business  We've got people invested in this club, people who hold it very dear to their heart and are willing to put it in black and white as to what they want to see, yet the club are ignoring it.  It's not bad-management, it's flipping arrogant!  I'm a customer and I would like to see this.....I'm the business, intercourse off this is what you're going to get.  That's the clubs approach. It stinks.

Our whole season ticket pitch was based around the hope of a feel-good factor that Steve Wraith thought might come because the Champions League semi-finals were entertaining.  WHAT THE intercourse!!!   Is that it?  Is that what this club has come to? Desperation and blind hope?  It wasn't a great season last year, that much is clear and it's not easy selling a turd.  But at least bloody try.   It's no wonder our season ticket sales are on their bottom and it's not just because we've only just signed our first player.  It's because of a lazy approach from the club which means we'll never progress under their 'leadership'.
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All of this and more..... The Club if it listened or changed it`s philosophy in regards to marketing and PR could in my opinion double it`s turnover and I doubt I am alone in that thinking?

The Club will say what are you basing those thoughts on?

Well I am basing it on 40 year`s of being an undervalued customer of GTFC . 40 years ago we were all simply supporters and if the team won we turned up in bigger numbers life was relatively simple back then . However with the Premier League things changed and for Clubs like ours which realistically had no chance of top flight football our bean counters and custodians needed to massively up their game. This never happened and things got worse Season after Season off the pitch culminating in relegation out the League . We returned after 6 years with the whole World at our feet with a fairly clean slate in the eyes of most fans who felt in the main a massive part of the Promotion campaign . It had been a long hard road back but we had done it together Board,Players,Management & Fan`s.And then....................NOWT

Out came the tried and trusted exercise book with the cry buy your season tickets popular players left amid rumours of penny pinching que damb squib on that front and sales slightly topped the previous Season`s sales . The opening gate was the biggest in years with nil away support and a home win how did the Club look to retain and harness this support IT DIDN`T

Hurst and Sniffer had enough again it appeared to be down to something behind the scenes budget related though the fan`s forum made it clear it was toxic fan`s and the pressure from said fan`s partly created by the totally pointless and irrelevent OP . This now meant that within 6 months of the Promotion we had lost the management,most of the team and the board were pretty much united in blaming it all on the fan`s SHUT UP

The fan`s and the board have both been constants throughout the Fenty years both have never really moved the average gate has pretty much been the same and so have the faces on the board so what does this mean?

It means in monetary terms unless JF or Another want to chuck money in for some reason it`s got to come from another source . The fan`s pretty much buy the same amount of ST and matchday tickets and I imagine that also goes for replica shirt sales which is probably the next biggest earner .NO EXTRA MONEY THERE

I would hope given all of the above Mr Fenty Mr Shut Up or Another would at the very least look at these points and go actually these toxic feckers may have a point here I wonder if we could actually increase our income by doing something new . Any increase in revenue gives the football club a better chance of not only survival but a chance to get back upsetting the big boys in the Championship . You might think were toxic and you don`t need us but you can`t fill a decrepit BP with less than 7k home seats WHY IS THAT?

The fan`s and I presume the board both want a new ground and like it or not we both need each other for that to happen . We are at an impasse and sadly the silent majority have also now largely had enough with the Club`s osterich mentality when it comes to improving things and gaining some momentum . The Club have mentioned the work been done around BP in the closed season and been badly mocked by some sections for some of the failings . I had hoped the Trust would lead and get all the help the Club needed in place to cover a lot of the issues that hasn`t happened either. Reading some of the comments from JF inner circle it looks to me like once again the fan`s are to blame and Bigdog and his mates clearly ain`t good enough to raise any extra funds . SEE LINCOLN CITY
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All of this and more..... The Club if it listened or changed it`s philosophy in regards to marketing and PR could in my opinion double it`s turnover and I doubt I am alone in that thinking?

The Club will say what are you basing those thoughts on?

Well I am basing it on 40 year`s of being an undervalued customer of GTFC . 40 years ago we were all simply supporters and if the team won we turned up in bigger numbers life was relatively simple back then . However with the Premier League things changed and for Clubs like ours which realistically had no chance of top flight football our bean counters and custodians needed to massively up their game. This never happened and things got worse Season after Season off the pitch culminating in relegation out the League . We returned after 6 years with the whole World at our feet with a fairly clean slate in the eyes of most fans who felt in the main a massive part of the Promotion campaign . It had been a long hard road back but we had done it together Board,Players,Management & Fan`s.And then....................NOWT

Out came the tried and trusted exercise book with the cry buy your season tickets popular players left amid rumours of penny pinching que damb squib on that front and sales slightly topped the previous Season`s sales . The opening gate was the biggest in years with nil away support and a home win how did the Club look to retain and harness this support IT DIDN`T

Hurst and Sniffer had enough again it appeared to be down to something behind the scenes budget related though the fan`s forum made it clear it was toxic fan`s and the pressure from said fan`s partly created by the totally pointless and irrelevent OP . This now meant that within 6 months of the Promotion we had lost the management,most of the team and the board were pretty much united in blaming it all on the fan`s SHUT UP

The fan`s and the board have both been constants throughout the Fenty years both have never really moved the average gate has pretty much been the same and so have the faces on the board so what does this mean?

It means in monetary terms unless JF or Another want to chuck money in for some reason it`s got to come from another source . The fan`s pretty much buy the same amount of ST and matchday tickets and I imagine that also goes for replica shirt sales which is probably the next biggest earner .NO EXTRA MONEY THERE

I would hope given all of the above Mr Fenty Mr Shut Up or Another would at the very least look at these points and go actually these toxic feckers may have a point here I wonder if we could actually increase our income by doing something new . Any increase in revenue gives the football club a better chance of not only survival but a chance to get back upsetting the big boys in the Championship . You might think were toxic and you don`t need us but you can`t fill a decrepit BP with less than 7k home seats WHY IS THAT?

The fan`s and I presume the board both want a new ground and like it or not we both need each other for that to happen . We are at an impasse and sadly the silent majority have also now largely had enough with the Club`s osterich mentality when it comes to improving things and gaining some momentum . The Club have mentioned the work been done around BP in the closed season and been badly mocked by some sections for some of the failings . I had hoped the Trust would lead and get all the help the Club needed in place to cover a lot of the issues that hasn`t happened either. Reading some of the comments from JF inner circle it looks to me like once again the fan`s are to blame and Bigdog and his mates clearly ain`t good enough to raise any extra funds . SEE LINCOLN CITY


If the club changed it's philosophy in regards to marketing and PR AND got a new stadium, then MAYBE we could double our turnover. marketing and PR alone isn't going to double it at BP. It's easy to come out and say stuff like this, but there's no facts behind it, just some ramblings from behind a computer because you and a few others that share this delusion are fed up. We didn't have fans turn up when we were good, they aren't going to turn up because they saw a nice picture.

Other than actually being successful, what do you think would actually get more people into the ground, and keep coming back? Name the things that would actually put bums on seats without just saying that the club should be doing things.

I can't think of any clubs where supporters increased without success coming first.
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The buck doesn’t stop with the board, it stops with the person in charge of the off field hirings.

We don’t have the right people in our off field roles. Most of what comes out of the club is farmed our. Why? Because the skills just aren’t in-house. And why is that because roles go to friends and family. I have never seen any roles advertised at this club but yet every time I get a ticket someone new serves me. Hmmmmm....

Grimsby Town FC is is a family club ... as long as you are in or friends with 4 or 5 families. The rest of us are just normal people.

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If the club changed it's philosophy in regards to marketing and PR AND got a new stadium, then MAYBE we could double our turnover. marketing and PR alone isn't going to double it at BP. It's easy to come out and say stuff like this, but there's no facts behind it, just some ramblings from behind a computer because you and a few others that share this delusion are fed up. We didn't have fans turn up when we were good, they aren't going to turn up because they saw a nice picture.

Other than actually being successful, what do you think would actually get more people into the ground, and keep coming back? Name the things that would actually put bums on seats without just saying that the club should be doing things.

I can't think of any clubs where supporters increased without success coming first.


Well I can counter this by saying Lincoln City . We ran parrelel to them and started from a much higher average gate the Season before we actually gained Promotion . Yes they had a cup run which brought in much needed revenue and we never but they quadrupled the home gates through success on the field but PR and marketing dragged in huge numbers of extra fans. Town had the success when they gained Promotion they had in excess of 15k fans in London they had 25k fans on the streets of GY and CLPS welcoming them home . I don`t need to say what would put bums on seats it`s not my job .However if it where the first thing I would do is get rid of the ridiculous pricing for under 18s and charge a nominal £10 fee for a ST with a full paying adult . The football club badly needs someone who knows how to run an office/stadium/club it won`t be cheap but it will be money well spent . Write that on the back of your flipping exercise book
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I can't think of any clubs where supporters increased without success coming first.


Operation Promotion? Success didn’t come before that. It was borne out of failure.

The FACT is that the best season ticket sales in decades came after a fan led scheme, branded as ‘the worst thing that could have happened’ by the board. You can go round the houses as this thread has done but the constant is the club could do better (and it’s not down to the staff in the office, they can only do what they’re allowed to do) but it declines or alienates outside help (which other clubs embrace).

The comment about ‘why don’t you offer to help’ from one of the Fenty brothers earlier was laughable. Dozens have. People with business acumen, successes on their CVs and talent and ideas in abundance. For whatever reason those offers haven’t been taken up or people have been driven away (which other clubs embrace). That’s the clubs prerogative.

Could the club get more fans through the door? Yes. Could they make more commercial income? Yes. But they’ve proven they’re not willing to listen for whatever reason and we are where we are because of it. And as a result the yearly discussion is as boring and frustrating as it was a year ago. And the year before that.

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If the club changed it's philosophy in regards to marketing and PR AND got a new stadium, then MAYBE we could double our turnover. marketing and PR alone isn't going to double it at BP. It's easy to come out and say stuff like this, but there's no facts behind it, just some ramblings from behind a computer because you and a few others that share this delusion are fed up. We didn't have fans turn up when we were good, they aren't going to turn up because they saw a nice picture.

Other than actually being successful, what do you think would actually get more people into the ground, and keep coming back? Name the things that would actually put bums on seats without just saying that the club should be doing things.

I can't think of any clubs where supporters increased without success coming first.


Also you say if the club changed it`s philosophy . Well it hasn`t in the 40 years I have followed it and as you point out the tried and tested hasn`t added any fan`s either even when things were going well so it doesnt work sunshine does it? The ramblings behind my computer and my delusion shared by a few others doesn`t bother you or those like you which is fine but precisely why this Club will NEVER progress with you and your tinpot mates running the show . I will vote with my feet and not bother renewing my ST instead choosing the odd game so more money lost to the Club doubt I will be alone looking at the renewal numbers so far? This maybe won`t bother the board either but I can guarantee you one thing nobody at that club presently will do anything about trying to replace us with new fans or try and get us back . I would throw my tools in the dock and become a balloon salesman if I had presided over the past 17 years they need a big intercourse off mirror hanging in the boardroom and every member of the board should look in it they are the problem not the fans.
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Operation Promotion? Success didn’t come before that. It was borne out of failure.

The FACT is that the best season ticket sales in decades came after a fan led scheme, branded as ‘the worst thing that could have happened’ by the board. You can go round the houses as this thread has done but the constant is the club could do better (and it’s not down to the staff in the office, they can only do what they’re allowed to do) but it declines or alienates outside help (which other clubs embrace).

The comment about ‘why don’t you offer to help’ from one of the Fenty brothers earlier was laughable. Dozens have. People with business acumen, successes on their CVs and talent and ideas in abundance. For whatever reason those offers haven’t been taken up or people have been driven away (which other clubs embrace). That’s the clubs prerogative.

Could the club get more fans through the door? Yes. Could they make more commercial income? Yes. But they’ve proven they’re not willing to listen for whatever reason and we are where we are because of it. And as a result the yearly discussion is as boring and frustrating as it was a year ago. And the year before that.



I agree with all of that.

It’s my understanding that the board are not involved with the day to day running of the club and it is the staff who lead day to day. So what aren’t they allowed to do?

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Operation Promotion? Success didn’t come before that. It was borne out of failure.

The FACT is that the best season ticket sales in decades came after a fan led scheme, branded as ‘the worst thing that could have happened’ by the board. You can go round the houses as this thread has done but the constant is the club could do better (and it’s not down to the staff in the office, they can only do what they’re allowed to do) but it declines or alienates outside help (which other clubs embrace).

The comment about ‘why don’t you offer to help’ from one of the Fenty brothers earlier was laughable. Dozens have. People with business acumen, successes on their CVs and talent and ideas in abundance. For whatever reason those offers haven’t been taken up or people have been driven away (which other clubs embrace). That’s the clubs prerogative.

Could the club get more fans through the door? Yes. Could they make more commercial income? Yes. But they’ve proven they’re not willing to listen for whatever reason and we are where we are because of it. And as a result the yearly discussion is as boring and frustrating as it was a year ago. And the year before that.



Well said the ONLY success this Club has had under Fenty`s reign of terror is when the Trust pulled the fans together and they got behind OP and Paul Hurst put a team together the fans identified with and backed in huge numbers home and away. I don`t need to shout from the rooftops what I do but I give up a lot of my spare time to help co-ordinate and raise money for local groups and organizations. I have wasted far more time trying to help GTFC because they mean so much to me and I keep trying but it`s pointless with the current set up so I will just go when I feel like it and watch the games . The love is gone the goodwill is gone and sadly living in Grimsby I can categorically state so has the interest.
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Well I can counter this by saying Lincoln City . We ran parrelel to them and started from a much higher average gate the Season before we actually gained Promotion . Yes they had a cup run which brought in much needed revenue and we never but they quadrupled the home gates through success on the field but PR and marketing dragged in huge numbers of extra fans. Town had the success when they gained Promotion they had in excess of 15k fans in London they had 25k fans on the streets of GY and CLPS welcoming them home . I don`t need to say what would put bums on seats it`s not my job .However if it where the first thing I would do is get rid of the ridiculous pricing for under 18s and charge a nominal £10 fee for a ST with a full paying adult . The football club badly needs someone who knows how to run an office/stadium/club it won`t be cheap but it will be money well spent . Write that on the back of your flipping exercise book


This is what every fornicator who comes out with the statement of how we could double our income/attendance has to say. Nobody has a clue what could actually be done, just that it could be done. The reason being is that there is no easy answer or way to do this, but it's very flipping easy to sit behind a computer and complain incessantly.
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Maybe hire someone whose job it is to do that?


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This is what every fornicator who comes out with the statement of how we could double our income/attendance has to say. Nobody has a clue what could actually be done, just that it could be done. The reason being is that there is no easy answer or way to do this, but it's very flipping easy to sit behind a computer and complain incessantly.


Well you could start by reinstating the best Fans Liaison Officer the club has ever had.  Which I realise would be a shame for the new one.

You know, what’s his name, thingamebob,   Oh yes I remember now.


Lord fuking Lucan.


I wouldn’t say my Ex Mrs is loose.

But she’s just completed Tinder !!
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If the club changed it's philosophy in regards to marketing and PR AND got a new stadium, then MAYBE we could double our turnover. marketing and PR alone isn't going to double it at BP. It's easy to come out and say stuff like this, but there's no facts behind it, just some ramblings from behind a computer because you and a few others that share this delusion are fed up. We didn't have fans turn up when we were good, they aren't going to turn up because they saw a nice picture.

Other than actually being successful, what do you think would actually get more people into the ground, and keep coming back? Name the things that would actually put bums on seats without just saying that the club should be doing things.

I can't think of any clubs where supporters increased without success coming first.


How about some success then, the current shower of excrement that run this club haven't achieved much this last 15 seasons or so.

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This is what every fornicator who comes out with the statement of how we could double our income/attendance has to say. Nobody has a clue what could actually be done, just that it could be done. The reason being is that there is no easy answer or way to do this, but it's very flipping easy to sit behind a computer and complain incessantly.


Wholesale changes at the top needed and also fresh investment required to put in place marketing initiatives based upon one, three, five and ten year strategies. Sadly, the club's has been reduced to the stage where it's got to invest in the fanbase in years one and two before it can start to take more significant levels of money off them. It's true, so many fans won't step through Blundell Park until Fenty's gone, he's a busted flush after all of this time. Not a dig, but it's a very real barrier to growth. The club needs a new broom to sweep the sterility and mutual hostility away. There's plenty that could be done, so much, but everything needs ripping up and starting again to build a cohesive picture for fans to buy into. Too much to write down on a forum as it would amount to a fairly hefty document if done thoroughly. It's not just about thinking up little schemes on top of what we've got to get a few more through the gate, it's about the club doing every single thing down to the minute details and tailoring it all to what the fans need. Accuracy, attention to detail and every action having a fruitful purpose to build up a mutual respect. What we seem to have is the club tailoring everything to how it suits the club and the fans have to fit into it, there's very little mutual respect left.

Look at the Self Select Scheme's almost non-existent take up. Most on here said it wouldn't work. Thirteen games for the price of twelve after a good idea was butchered by a fish merchant, accountant, solicitor and long serving members of staff who should have better acumen and judgement in their positions but don't. The name for a start. Why not call one The Shift Worker's Scheme and another, The Exile Package? Names that thousands could clearly associate themselves with. Build up a contactable and marketable database of both and why not 6 games for the price of 5 for god's sake? If the club are so jittery that they thought it would affect season ticket sales, they should be asking themselves bigger questions as to why and also make sure the product's good enough to keep fans coming back, after all it's what they should be doing anyway rather than thinking we better get as many season tickets sold as possible because the football's gonna be more than likely shite as it always has been while we've been in charge. The lack of self confidence in what they are doing shines through and is covered up by bluster and chastisement.

Self Select Scheme just a minute part of it and a much bigger part is attracting youngsters. We're just about the most expensive in the league and I've not seen an inkling of anything done by the club to draw the next generation in.. nothing. Just two parts of a huge picture, but because you Pen Penfras, haven't got any creativity or a clue yourself, don't paint everyone else with the same brush. Street food instead of pies? Healthy eating options? Little bits building up to an integrated bigger picture. There's plenty that can be done but the present regime are not liked enough or respected enough to have much impact even in the unlikely event that they came up with a decent idea. It needs to be someone else to re-energise the fanbase, after seventeen years the fans have no belief in them as individuals or as a group.

To say that commercial income and attendances can't be improved is an absolute fallacy, just needs to right people to do it with the appropriate skills and ability..

Fenty quitting the board and relinquishing control of the club could easily put 1k on the home gate, releasing the shackles, a brave new dawn and all that, which could more than pay for a highly qualified new CEO with a proven track record and the club could build from there..
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This is what every fornicator who comes out with the statement of how we could double our income/attendance has to say. Nobody has a clue what could actually be done, just that it could be done. The reason being is that there is no easy answer or way to do this, but it's very flipping easy to sit behind a computer and complain incessantly.


In your opinion. You’re just another negative old fornicator who thinks if your career hasn’t been in the fish business in Grimsby, you’re not qualified to do anything.


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This is what every fornicator who comes out with the statement of how we could double our income/attendance has to say. Nobody has a clue what could actually be done, just that it could be done. The reason being is that there is no easy answer or way to do this, but it's very flipping easy to sit behind a computer and complain incessantly.


When you say nobody do you mean the little gang of hangers on that sit around the board room table or instead do you refer to those who squabble over the exercise book and ruler in the ticket office because that`s the tools they have to work with?

In 2019 I would be alarmed if anybody sat reading this didn`t at least think they could improve the ticketing side of things it`s a joke.
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I'm pretty sure it's do-able. You could cheaply created land yards with a GTFC gift card \ membership that has the users identification.  Then when they scan the card it

a) it can check if you've been banned etc
b) reduces the amount from your card to the value of the ticket
c) can be topped up electronically

Basically similar process to a Co-op divi card.

All you need is software that can hold a database, a device that can scan the card and you have a self ticketing system.




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We haven't heard any update from the club regarding season ticket sales, I wonder why?? Oh yeah because season ticket sales are probably at the lowest since records began, if not the lowest then certainly one of the lowest, what are club doing to address this? Nothing.
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Home shirt best it's been for a good while backed up by two highly marketable colours for the 2nd and 3rd kits.. Credit where credit's due..
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Home shirt best it's been for a good while backed up by two highly marketable colours for the 2nd and 3rd kits.. Credit where credit's due..


Well turned around Bigdog back to the title of this thread!!  



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Possibly a load of balderdash but someone mentioned in the comments on fb that the socks aren't red this year. Hope it is balderdash.

https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2019/june/three-new-shirts-unveiled/

Home shirt is decent. Change shirt looks like a hastily-designed training top.
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That was my first reaction ^^^
Home shirt really looks good , blue shirt crap and the pink one although not really my cup of tea will sell well I’d guess and would make a better change strip .


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I agree the 2nd kit looks like a training top. From the point of view of wearing it, I quite liked the fact it looks a little more relaxed. Would like to see it in the flesh  but very tempted.
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Home kit look pretty good need to see the back of it before I buy

As for the 2nd and 3rd.....I’m old school, why we can’t wear our  famous Black and white strip away if it doesn’t clash?

My pet hate


Are we any closer to getting promoted since Hurst has been here? No

Has he been given time to achieve promotion by the chairman and fans? Yes

Hurst out
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Home kit look pretty good need to see the back of it before I buy

As for the 2nd and 3rd.....I’m old school, why we can’t wear our  famous Black and white strip away if it doesn’t clash?

My pet hate


My pet hate too but commercially understandable. Based on the teams in League Two this season we’d only technically need a change strip a max of five times. I think the third kit would only be needed at Colchester.

We’ll hopefully get to wear the black and white at Scunny though as both away kits are likely to clash in some way.


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The collar on the home shirt is dreadful, as they often choose it to be. If it had the same style collar as either of the away kits it’d be good.

The pink one is pretty good.

The blue one is cool. If it’s the same material as last years red one then I’ll probably get it, but this does mean the Young’s logo will be a transfer, which is a negative.
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The collar on the home shirt is dreadful, as they often choose it to be. If it had the same style collar as either of the away kits it’d be good.

The pink one is pretty good.

The blue one is cool. If it’s the same material as last years red one then I’ll probably get it, but this does mean the Young’s logo will be a transfer, which is a negative.


I liked the home one until I saw the fade. Totally unnecessary and makes it looks as though it’s disappearing into the shorts.



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think that home shirt looks smart, some nice little details...

Blue shirt looks like a training t- shirt..

didnt like last years pink one and dont like this one either...

So just a 1 out of 3 and a "must try harder" comment for Errea from me.



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Yet another fail I’m afraid.

When oh when will the club release a design that makes a short, balding, podgy. middle aged bloke look athletic. ?

Then I’ll have one of each. 😄


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But she’s just completed Tinder !!
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My 6 year old and 4 year old are already struggling to decide which they want. I won't be getting one as I'm an adult.
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The collar on the home shirt is dreadful, as they often choose it to be. If it had the same style collar as either of the away kits it’d be good.

The pink one is pretty good.

The blue one is cool. If it’s the same material as last years red one then I’ll probably get it, but this does mean the Young’s logo will be a transfer, which is a negative.


The home shirt is a recoloured version of Lincoln’s 16/17 kit .. same template .. typical town 2 seasons behind everyone else
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I liked the home one until I saw the fade. Totally unnecessary and makes it looks as though it’s disappearing into the shorts.



To me like a previous years, the home shirt makes slim people look like they have a fat gut.  


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As usual, due to there being 0%  VAT on children’s clothing, the kids kit is more expensive than the adult kit...

Adult Shirt
£35.83

+£7.16 VAT
=£42.99
Adult Shorts
£14.99

+£3.00 VAT
=£17.99
Adult Socks
£8.33

+£1.66 VAT
=£9.99

Total pre-tax cost of Adult GTFC kit = £59.15

Kids Shirt
£35.99

+£0.00 VAT
=£35.99
Kids Shorts
£14.99

+£0.00 VAT
=£14.99
Kids Socks
£9.99

+£0.00 VAT
=£9.99

Total pre-tax cost of Kids GTFC kit = £60.97
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Oh and I’m waiting for the Fishy meltdown because the home socks are black this season...
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Oh and I’m waiting for the Fishy meltdown because the home socks are black this season...


Ever since the diversity mural wall behind the Pontoon was installed I think you will find we are much more accepting of various sock colours.

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Black should be third choice behind red and white though. Have we ever been good in black socks over a season?
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Not that bothered about the style of the kit. More interested how the players perform that wear it.
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Oh and I’m waiting for the Fishy meltdown because the home socks are black this season...


I'm probably in the minority.. but I hate the red socks and red being the highlight colour in our kits and club identity. Find it quite a cheapening colour and best left to the glory hunters who support Manure, Liverpool and Arsenal from their armchairs in NE Lincs. Would quite like the kit being fully black and white like it has for long parts of our history. And.. I'll be definitely in the minority by saying that our club crest needs an overhaul too. Looks very dated and quite 80s in design style and needs a cleaner more contemporary look while still harking back to our heritage and incorporating the three fish.. A chocolate and sky blue third kit wouldn't go amiss and also as a third lit I wouldn't mind us using the narrow/varied width hooped shirts of yesteryear in appropriate change colours. A bit more interesting and GTFC iconic than the ones we've been producing and could build up a catalogue of forever heritage kits in the club shop....
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I'm probably in the minority.. but I hate the red socks and red being the highlight colour in our kits and club identity. Find it quite a cheapening colour and best left to the glory hunters who support Manure, Liverpool and Arsenal from their armchairs in NE Lincs. Would quite like the kit being fully black and white like it has for long parts of our history. And.. I'll be definitely in the minority by saying that our club crest needs an overhaul too. Looks very dated and quite 80s in design style and needs a cleaner more contemporary look while still harking back to our heritage and incorporating the three fish.. A chocolate and sky blue third kit wouldn't go amiss and also as a third lit I wouldn't mind us using the narrow/varied width hooped shirts of yesteryear in appropriate change colours. A bit more interesting and GTFC iconic than the ones we've been producing..


I think I agree about the socks, but keep your hands off the badge - I’m biased, yes, but I have always thought it is, hands down, the best badge in football. And I’m not even joking. Look at Scunny and Lincoln’s badges in comparison, they’re appalling!
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I think I agree about the socks, but keep your hands off the badge - I’m biased, yes, but I have always thought it is, hands down, the best badge in football. And I’m not even joking. Look at Scunny and Lincoln’s badges in comparison, they’re appalling!


Agree, let's leave the badge alone,  I haven't seen a better one anywhere in football. Lincoln used to have a half decent one then changed it a few years back to that horrific scratchy one-legged goblin thing.
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I also agree on the badge. I think the current design more or less came about in the 70s. Minor tweaks since then. But I think it is iconic has stood the test of time and it would take a work of genius to improve upon - I don't have any confidence in the regime to find someone capable of a stroke of design genius.

I can't think of any of the recent redesigns of badges that look good. Most are tacky, cheap attempts at following marketing precepts.


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As usual, due to there being 0%  VAT on children’s clothing, the kids kit is more expensive than the adult kit...

Adult Shirt
£35.83

+£7.16 VAT
=£42.99
Adult Shorts
£14.99

+£3.00 VAT
=£17.99
Adult Socks
£8.33

+£1.66 VAT
=£9.99

Total pre-tax cost of Adult GTFC kit = £59.15

Kids Shirt
£35.99

+£0.00 VAT
=£35.99
Kids Shorts
£14.99

+£0.00 VAT
=£14.99
Kids Socks
£9.99

+£0.00 VAT
=£9.99

Total pre-tax cost of Kids GTFC kit = £60.97


Who cares ffs ?!


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Who cares ffs ?!


Well, he does have a very valid point, Louth.
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Black should be third choice behind red and white though. Have we ever been good in black socks over a season?


I think we last won a league wearing our lucky red socks  40 years ago wasn't it?

I much prefer black or white or black and white socks myself as I think it looks classier.

I used to like those Newcastle United socks - black with a white top.

Anyway as somebody said it is far more important what players are wearing the strip.
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Really don’t like the back of the new home shirt. Front looks fine and I don’t mind the collar, and a couple of nice touches with the 3 fish and we are town embroidering. But what’s happened to the stripes on the back? From behind it looks like we wear all black, I personally really don’t like that. In fact I’d go as far to say it’s my least favourite kit since one of the Jarvis efforts of the 00’s. Wish we’d go back to the full stripes on the back with red names and numbers, even fade the stripes if it’s hard to make out who is who.


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I agree with jimgtfc.  I really don't like the new shirt.  Front looks OK, but I really hate the whole of the back of the shirt being black with no stripes on it.  If you're behind the goal, it will look like you're watching the All Blacks not Grimsby Town!
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https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2019/june/have-you-got-your-brand-new-town-shirt/


Why does the shirt to fit kids (mini kit) have red edges to the sleeves whilst the larger sizes have black ?


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I watched the highlights of this Donny game and the Town shirts look awful on the box. See them in a photo from the front in the GT and they look OK but because the telly cameras are high up in virtually every ground, you hardly ever see the stripes. Mostly you see the back, a black blob with a number on it,. The players look like the All Blacks or referees pre-posh kits. With the black shorts it looks really dull and boring. You would think that whoever designed/commissioned/bought this kit would have considered this beforehand.


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Black should be third choice behind red and white though. Have we ever been good in black socks over a season?



I never realised that the colour of our socks affected our performance. Who would have thought that?


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Well, he does have a very valid point, Louth.



But seeing as " Joe Average " has to pay the VAT on the adult kit then surely the final cost pre tax is irrelevant. That is of course unless the average punter can claim the VAT back.


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I never realised that the colour of our socks affected our performance. Who would have thought that?


Funnily enough it does, or at least some people in football believe it does. This last came to the fore when teams like MU started wearing grey as a third kit and even the great Fergie was saying that it was making players hard to spot in midwinter gloom and he wanted something brighter. Bright or white socks got the same argument long ago before that in the 50s when floodlights were much dimmer. The socks are often the first and sometimes only part of the player a team mate can see. So you can actually play a one-two without looking up.



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I watched the highlights of this Donny game and the Town shirts look awful on the box. See them in a photo from the front in the GT and they look OK but because the telly cameras are high up in virtually every ground, you hardly ever see the stripes. Mostly you see the back, a black blob with a number on it,. The players look like the All Blacks or referees pre-posh kits. With the black shorts it looks really dull and boring. You would think that whoever designed/commissioned/bought this kit would have considered this beforehand.


Yes I was a bit disappointed with that.

Why have we abandoned stripes on the back of the shirt? There is no stripe on the shorts, the socks are all black and when we are attacking the Osmond end from the Pontoon it will effectively be an all black kit.
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I watched the highlights of this Donny game and the Town shirts look awful on the box. See them in a photo from the front in the GT and they look OK but because the telly cameras are high up in virtually every ground, you hardly ever see the stripes. Mostly you see the back, a black blob with a number on it,. The players look like the All Blacks or referees pre-posh kits. With the black shorts it looks really dull and boring. You would think that whoever designed/commissioned/bought this kit would have considered this beforehand.


Hate the home shirt for this very reason. In fact I think it’s one of the worst since the Jarvis monstrosity. Would love to see us return to the full stripes on the back with red names and numbers.


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Yes I was a bit disappointed with that.

Why have we abandoned stripes on the back of the shirt? There is no stripe on the shorts, the socks are all black and when we are attacking the Osmond end from the Pontoon it will effectively be an all black kit.


I can't imagine many people wanting to buy it either. It just looks drab and uninteresting and it won't tempt too many into the shop for one., like Jim says the old b/w stripes and red numbers was a lot better. I suppose we are stuck with it for the season though.



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I bought one and it looks grrreat  
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I bought one and it looks grrreat  


Thanks tiger.
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Isn't there a ruling that the number on the back must be on top of a solid colour?

Even so, say a black square just big enough to fit number in (and name) would be better.
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Thanks tiger.


Missing stripes and all that lol
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