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HertsGTFC
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My immediate concern is not doing a Yeovil.

I’m just looking at the League 2 line up for next season now it’s been finalised, and I cannot see many (any?) worse teams than us. It is a very strong league...


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Quoted from marinerdazza
My immediate concern is not doing a Yeovil.

I’m just looking at the League 2 line up for next season now it’s been finalised, and I cannot see many (any?) worse teams than us. It is a very strong league...



Frighteningly so, bottom six I fear, so long as there are two worse than us  


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We had Bogle. He was a machine but we weren't likely to keep him at 23, with his physique and potentIal to go on. But we had Amond, the fans loved him, adored him. He scored 36 goals for us but we messed him around with his contract. Lied and took his offer away. He was conned, our fans were devastated to lose him. The upper echolons at BP suggested he didn't score many against top six sides in the national league. A wantaway Hurst who certainly had eyes on a move didn't want him as he wanted to play 4-3-3. Amond, I'd agree wouldn't fit in there. Why did Hurst want away? And a sideways move at best.

Nolan? He'd sorted his head out after wasting years levels below his ability. No problem there, he shouldn't be playing league two. Toto? Not bothered when he went though he's much better than anything we have now he's matured and cut out so many mistakes. We had so much momentum, losing Amond killed it more than anything.

The fans worshipped Padraig, a disinterested and uncommitted Hurst allowed him to go although I suspect earlier lies about his contract helped Amond's decision. That said, I heard pretty much the second he signed for us in the fifth tier, he was looking for a move. We didn't capitalise on promotion, we still have the same problems, the same reason we became a poorly club that couldn't even finish 90th of 92 clubs and I fear we could well return to the Dog and Duck, and more 5-0's at Braintree.
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Frighteningly so, bottom six I fear, so long as there are two worse than us  


Makes you wonder what will happen regarding Mr Fenty if he takes us back into the tinpot for a second time???





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Makes you wonder what will happen regarding Mr Fenty if he takes us back into the tinpot for a second time???





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Quoted from marinerdazza
My immediate concern is not doing a Yeovil.

I’m just looking at the League 2 line up for next season now it’s been finalised, and I cannot see many (any?) worse teams than us. It is a very strong league...


I sort of know what you mean, but we haven't assembled a team yet and neither has anyone else.
Is there really any reason to feel, at this point, that we will be a poorer team than Stevenage, or Crawley, or Cheltenham, Cambridge, Port Vale, Crewe, Macclesfield......?


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We had Bogle. He was a machine but we weren't likely to keep him at 23, with his physique and potentIal to go on. But we had Amond, the fans loved him, adored him. He scored 36 goals for us but we messed him around with his contract. Lied and took his offer away. He was conned, our fans were devastated to lose him. The upper echolons at BP suggested he didn't score many against top six sides in the national league. A wantaway Hurst who certainly had eyes on a move didn't want him as he wanted to play 4-3-3. Amond, I'd agree wouldn't fit in there. Why did Hurst want away? And a sideways move at best.

Nolan? He'd sorted his head out after wasting years levels below his ability. No problem there, he shouldn't be playing league two. Toto? Not bothered when he went though he's much better than anything we have now he's matured and cut out so many mistakes. We had so much momentum, losing Amond killed it more than anything.

The fans worshipped Padraig, a disinterested and uncommitted Hurst allowed him to go although I suspect earlier lies about his contract helped Amond's decision. That said, I heard pretty much the second he signed for us in the fifth tier, he was looking for a move. We didn't capitalise on promotion, we still have the same problems, the same reason we became a poorly club that couldn't even finish 90th of 92 clubs and I fear we could well return to the Dog and Duck, and more 5-0's at Braintree.


Check out an interview with Podge from earlier this year where he is very complimentary about Hurst and Doig and says he keeps in touch with PH etc... etc...

I’d suggest Podge leaving was more about his agent and the club not backing the manager.

If you recall Podge said “I just left it to my agent” well if Hartlepool offered the player more and the agent a bigger “introduction fee” (aka bung) that tells us everything.




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I sort of know what you mean, but we haven't assembled a team yet and neither has anyone else.
Is there really any reason to feel, at this point, that we will be a poorer team than Stevenage, or Crawley, or Cheltenham, Cambridge, Port Vale, Crewe, Macclesfield......?


I’m usually quite positive. But if we’re as complacent as we have been in previous seasons then yes there’s every reason to think we’ll be poorer. And by we, I mean the board. There’s nothing wrong with a bit of realism and I’d rather try and point it out now whilst something can be done about it, than afterwards when we’re knackered again. We’ve not got the best record of learning from past mistakes.
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That's not the point My question was  had we kept the promotion team plus one or two new faces could we have 'done a Tranmere'?



That side only strung a run of results together when Townsend was on loan, so I'll go with no, unless by some miracle he was one of the new faces.


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Could we have 'done a Tranmere' ?

Our boardrooms ambition was to survive the drop, so it's a tale of ambition and with that ambition, budget.

You could argue that the budget does not always guarantee winning but it is key to bringing in quality. Also leadership is key as to quote Alexander the great I'm not afraid of an army of Lions led by a sheep, I am afraid of an army of sheep led by Lion.


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