Could this be it? Freemo latest.

Quoted from Civvy at last

Fcuk me, what a miserable bunch of batsards you are.
I don’t often criticise our fans, or this site. But fans of most other clubs (and I have mates in a lot of places) would be pushing like anything for a new ground.  We don’t need council or NIMBY’s to screw this up. You moaning tw@ts do it for them.
Every single place that gets nominated has a good few on here moaning.  Perhaps if we got off our @rses (ala Luton fans) and really really got behind this, maybe it could actually happen.
Let’s stop wallowing in self pity and actually try and make a difference.
UTM.

This exactly.
The new stadium should be number one priority.
The best chance ever I would have thought to actually move into a new stadium.

No it deffo Cleethorpe rd.  I recognise the caxton theatre down the road

Other images have lorries at the lights.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

I don't think anyone commenting on this thread is against a new ground, or one on Freemo. And Swin and I certainly can't be accused of being NIMBYs on this (clue's in the usernames). Just commenting that this announcement hardly takes us any further forward.

I’m not accusing you or Swin of being NIMBYs. But I do think you fall into the first category.  Why such negativity ?  We slate JF for not attempting to move forward. I think most of us will only believe it’s going ahead when the foundations actually start to get laid.  But I’m bugggered if I’m going to pooh pooh every idea that comes along. So yes, I’ll try and  be positive, I’ll get behind  new ideas and yes, I would love to see the Town I still live in undergo regeneration and improvement.

Dont forget...whichever side of the debate you sit on....this is the Freemans tenant for their redevelopment of the block that is currently being demolished.
They are currently standing alone and moving ahead with their own plan for their land in that neighbourhood.

GTFC, LHP (former Shoreline/council land owners) and the Great Gy Project dock thing arent involved in this as far as i am aware.

IMO all parties should be around the table looking at one overall linked vision .....if JF is now the portfolio holder for regen he needs to get that moving as quick and as far as he actually can with his conflict restrictions.

Quoted from KingstonMariner

It’ll take a lot more investments at that level to fund the ground. Was it £22m quoted for the ground or was that for all the ancillary stuff as well?

I may be wrong but I don't think £22m gets you much in the way of a football ground these days. From memory, the original Conoco Stadium plans were due to cost £12m for phase 1, which would have delivered a 14,000 seater stadium. Phase 2, which included adding additional seats into already enclosed corners and towards the back of the 'main' stand would have taken the capacity to a fraction over 20,000 at a total cost of £18m. Given those plans are roughly 20 years old, £22m doesn't seem sufficient in 2019 money to deliver a circa 15,000 capacity stadium.

If you compare with recent / current builds of a similar-ish scale:

Saint Helens Rugby (opened 2010) - 18,000 capacity (15,000 seats) £25m
Rotherham United (opened 2012) - 12,000 capacity - £20m
Brentford (set to open 2020) - 17,000 capacity - £70m
Aberdeen (proposed) - 20,000 capacity - £50m

Scunny's failed stadium proposals over at the Lincolnshire Lakes were pegged in for around £25m for a 12k capacity, and that's going back a few years. I reckon for a decent 15,000 stadium ready to open in, let's say 2022 (which is probably more than a tad ambitious), you're not going to see much if any change out of £30m, and that's a lot of money to find.

You probably could do it for less, but then you run the risk of ending up with something like York are about to move into. A cheap, dreary, generic lego stadium:

https://www.yorkcityfootballclub.co.uk/news/gallery-community-stadium-latest

It's obviously imperative for the club's long-term future that we move, but when you break the costs down you can see how it might not be that easy to deliver in practice.  

Quoted from Civvy at last

I’m not accusing you or Swin of being NIMBYs. But I do think you fall into the first category.  Why such negativity ?  We slate JF for not attempting to move forward. I think most of us will only believe it’s going ahead when the foundations actually start to get laid.  But I’m bugggered if I’m going to pooh pooh every idea that comes along. So yes, I’ll try and  be positive, I’ll get behind  new ideas and yes, I would love to see the Town I still live in undergo regeneration and improvement.

It's not negativity. It's just being grounded. I'm not pooh poohing the idea (though you're wise not to pooh pooh a pooh pooh). Just pointing out a £7.1m investment in a shop isn't going to contribute much to a £20m stadium build, so I'm not going to get excited about it as part of an enabling development. And no one has said how this is actually going to help the new stadium - there's no link made to a share of this money going towards funding it. And if there was how much of that £7m is profit that is going to be shared with the 'stadium fund'? Bricks and mortar retail isn't exactly doing well at the moment.

Nothing would please me more than seeing a run down part of the town being regenerated. If the government turned around and said, right we're going to put your income tax up and all the extra is going to be invested in regenerating Grimsby, I'd say take it with my thanks. But whether I post positive or negative comments about a potential new shop opening isn't going to make or break it. As things stand, a new retail outlet in one part of town isn't even going to help very much beyond the jobs created for the duration of the build (every little helps).

Quoted from Poojah

I may be wrong but I don't think £22m gets you much in the way of a football ground these days. From memory, the original Conoco Stadium plans were due to cost £12m for phase 1, which would have delivered a 14,000 seater stadium. Phase 2, which included adding additional seats into already enclosed corners and towards the back of the 'main' stand would have taken the capacity to a fraction over 20,000 at a total cost of £18m. Given those plans are roughly 20 years old, £22m doesn't seem sufficient in 2019 money to deliver a circa 15,000 capacity stadium.

If you compare with recent / current builds of a similar-ish scale:

Saint Helens Rugby (opened 2010) - 18,000 capacity (15,000 seats) £25m
Rotherham United (opened 2012) - 12,000 capacity - £20m
Brentford (set to open 2020) - 17,000 capacity - £70m
Aberdeen (proposed) - 20,000 capacity - £50m

Scunny's failed stadium proposals over at the Lincolnshire Lakes were pegged in for around £25m for a 12k capacity, and that's going back a few years. I reckon for a decent 15,000 stadium ready to open in, let's say 2022 (which is probably more than a tad ambitious), you're not going to see much if any change out of £30m, and that's a lot of money to find.

You probably could do it for less, but then you run the risk of ending up with something like York are about to move into. A cheap, dreary, generic lego stadium:

https://www.yorkcityfootballclub.co.uk/news/gallery-community-stadium-latest

It's obviously imperative for the club's long-term future that we move, but when you break the costs down you can see how it might not be that easy to deliver in practice.  

All of that just underlines my point.

Just another new ground thread to pad out the last quarter of a century, soon be 2045 and cutting the ribbon.

Quoted from Mrs Doyle

Get on Board Fenty this is your exit strategy right there.

well when its a generic structure that has no atmosphere and no redeeming features, and you cant tell the home end from the away end.....it will be interesting to see who you will blame then.