Next Season

Who do we keep, who do you want shot of?

who do you want shot of?

Mr Fenty  

Now we are safe, shouldn't the takeover of forward thinking investors have been triggered  

50 points was the trigger wasn't it.   Not sure if this was posted on here or twitter.

Quoted from Nutsy

Who do we keep, who do you want shot of?

Get rid of Collins, Ring, Cardwell, Woolford and Cook.

Quoted from Meza

50 points was the trigger wasn't it.   Not sure if this was posted on here or twitter.

Nothing official was ever said by the club , just supposition, conjecture and rumours amongst some posters.

I first saw the rumour on CA but there was no attribution so always assumed it was ballcocks.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Get rid of Collins, Ring, Cardwell, Woolford and Cook.

My understanding is that we have been trying to offload Cook for a few weeks now as he is one of the highest paid players.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Get rid of Collins, Ring, Cardwell, Woolford and Cook.

Ring was signed on an 18 month contract so he won't be going anywhere soon I expect

Likewise Cardwell's was extended

Just checked and Cook signed a 2 year deal with us

So as things stand, the only place they might go is out on loan

I don't think Jordan Cook has done much wrong to be fair was one our better players early season then he got injured I think he should be kept for next season.

Sebastian Ring hopefully he proves me wrong but haven't been impressed so far.

For me Cardwell is the least I’m impressed with. Such an important position and he just doesn’t seem anywhere near the mark if we’re to push for the top.

I think Ring has to be given a pre season before judging him. He's come into s team which by all accounts hasn't been performing well, into a wing back position with no pre season as the season ended months before in Sweden.

Why keep Cook he seems to be permanently out injured
We need players who are fit to start 40 games a year

I would send rose and cardwell out on loan.
Out of the players out of contract I'd show the door to Wolford, Collins, Thomas and Whitmore.

Quoted from MuddyWaters

Get rid of Collins, Ring, Cardwell, Woolford and Cook.

Cook - featured in one of our best periods of the season and has been unlucky with injuries.

Ring - played half a season in English football. Too early to judge.

Woolford - versatile experienced player - we need some of these in what is likely to be a very young squad.

Cardwell - just signed a new contract so whatever anyone thinks he is likely to be here but I think he may go out on loan next year.

Collins - likely to be released.

Cook is 29 and played 215 professional games, scoring 24 goals. He had a 3 year stint where he played 30+ games per season but other than that, he hasn't really played much football and you have to ask yourself why?

For me he is one of them players that can do a job in a number of positions but doesn't actually excel in any position.

Quoted from jamesgtfc

Cook is 29 and played 215 professional games, scoring 24 goals. He had a 3 year stint where he played 30+ games per season but other than that, he hasn't really played much football and you have to ask yourself why?

For me he is one of them players that can do a job in a number of positions but doesn't actually excel in any position.

He's a hustle and bustle kind of player, when fit (which isn't very often) is a nightmare for defences and he's not a striker, winger midfielder, but played alongside an out n out forward I think he'd be a right asset... unfortunately though I think his injury record doesn't stand him in good stead as a long term option and expect Jolley to try and move him on in the summer..

I'm always amazed by this type of post, because what the original poster is asking for is who to sack from their job on a very public forum. There's no other occupation like that, and every company I've ever dealt with has a very clearly defined procedure for getting rid of employees they don't want to keep, either through redundancy or disciplinary measures. Whichever way they choose, it's confidential, and any mitigating factors that could affect performance are taken into account.

So it's a very simple request, please don't do this. If a player is having personal issues which might affect their performance - it could be mental health, it could be family problems, it could be one of many things - why would you wish to compound it all by picking them to pieces online? If they are getting support from the club for whatever reason, if they are getting slaughtered on here, do you think it's going to make their situation any easier? Of course it isn't. Moan about them if you must, but please, not in public like this.

Quoted from jock dock tower

I'm always amazed by this type of post, because what the original poster is asking for is who to sack from their job on a very public forum. There's no other occupation like that, and every company I've ever dealt with has a very clearly defined procedure for getting rid of employees they don't want to keep, either through redundancy or disciplinary measures. Whichever way they choose, it's confidential, and any mitigating factors that could affect performance are taken into account.

So it's a very simple request, please don't do this. If a player is having personal issues which might affect their performance - it could be mental health, it could be family problems, it could be one of many things - why would you wish to compound it all by picking them to pieces online? If they are getting support from the club for whatever reason, if they are getting slaughtered on here, do you think it's going to make their situation any easier? Of course it isn't. Moan about them if you must, but please, not in public like this.

Surely a wind up??
It's an internet forum,fan speculation & not part of any internal club procedures.
Pales in to insignificance to some of the absolute garbage posted on here.
Are you actually suggesting that posters should not voice their opinions on who should be playing for the club in the future??

Extending Cardwell's contract was a mistake that I think we can all see. I wonder if the management are wishing they hadn't done it?

Truth is, we need much better quality than all of the strikers we've got.

The one thing I hate, and I use that term exceedingly loosely, is when you get linked with every player that's got a dog named grim or because a player has links.

We all know that there's players that will or won't come. So before we get linked with every player that's ever shopped at ikea, can we just enjoy a few weeks off!

Dont know who is out of contract,

Keep Davis, and Hall Johnson, if they are ooc....

rest can urine off.....

Ring was a terrible buy, as was Cook,

Lose Collins, Woolford, Hooper, Whitmore, Thomas.
Loans ending and go back: Dennis, Embleton, Grayson.
Loan out next season. Cardwell and Rose
Keep: Davis, RH Johnson.

The rest are contracted anyways so will go nowhere

Quoted from chaos33

Extending Cardwell's contract was a mistake that I think we can all see. I wonder if the management are wishing they hadn't done it?

Truth is, we need much better quality than all of the strikers we've got.

This is what worries me most about the coming summer. I want nothing more than Jolley to prove me wrong on this but I think his judgement so far on forwards has been patchy to be kind. Yes Thomas was a decent signing and had contributed reasonably well considering how we starved him of service, but even this signing had the feeling of an agent desperate to get their client a club and the best available option was Town, as opposed to Thomas being well scouted/known previously.

Of course there was the failed attempt to bring in Angol before the season started, but he has had more clubs that Tiger Woods and his only 24, which begs the question why, and in truth his goal scoring record is average at best bar one season in the Conference South. But who knows on this one, maybe it was the difference to being successful or having the season we have had.

But Cardwell (contract extension) and Robles have shown that Jolley is perhaps wanting in this area more than we think.

Also in January he wanted to bring in his Swedes (Ohman will hopefully prove worth it) in preference to strengthening the real weakness in the side, the forwards.

Its not like we had been banging in the goals up until then. And then the waste of money that was Grayson on loan.

He also brings in a known goalscorer in Dennis who, it turns out, is a striker who is a waste of space without service. Makes me wonder if Jolley did his homework on Dennis or is just in denial about the number of chances our strikers actually get in a game.

Either way for me the jury is still well out on Jolley in regards strikers, you could argue budget constraints, but I would say how come we could afford to give Woolford/Collins extra deals last summer and not instead use that money on offering a decent striker a decent wage, maybe Angol would have joined if the money spent on Collins contract was also offered to him?
    

Thomas Woolford Collins Hooper - let them go
Whitmore and Cook - not fussed

I think he will keep everyone else - and why give Cardwell contract extension and then get shut?

No major overhaul - just far better quality needed in the vital areas: creativity and scoring

Quoted from chaos33

Extending Cardwell's contract was a mistake that I think we can all see. I wonder if the management are wishing they hadn't done it?

Truth is, we need much better quality than all of the strikers we've got.

Sorry I don't agree. Give him until Christmas, if he doesn't show then I'll agree.

The positive outlook I beleive, is that we have a clear area to focus on with our transfers. If we had to retain this entire squad, we would have a top goalkeeper, a decent defence (we've conceded the second least goals in the bottom half) and a Really good midfield engine, those are good building blocks to have and jolley now has that known quantity and foundation to build on.

Just watched Maccas interview after the poty awards, think he may might be gone this summer or next and accepts the battersby is a better overall keeper than himself and will emerge as the season goes as the new number 1..probably off the mark with my assumptions but wouldn't be surprised to see macca move on and battersby become our new stopper

It's easy isn't it. Get rid of him , that ones a cart horse, etc etc.

Collins and woolfords wages will pay for striker from Man U.

Get a grip.

Jolley is getting stick for taking a risk on a couple of players ie Robles- if that works he get called a genius.

Cardwell, a young striker that he clearly sees worth giving a little time to develop. Haven't we not learnt recently that giving young players time is beneficial (Clifton, Wright, Rose). As a target man type him to take time to learn that trade. Clearly next season he will be the boo boys favourite with Wooly gone.

If we had the budget we would sign ready made good quality league 2 players all summer long. Chances are we are going to have to take what we can, maybe get a couple of decent players and top up with a supporting cast of young , unproven or questionable signings.

THATS OUR LEVEL PEOPLE.

Let's be glad we dont need 10 or more players like recent seasons.

Hope JSF let's a few more pounds out the piggy bank (Fenty Out).

Give the manager some time. Christ last season we didn't know which league we where going to play in until the penultimate game so I predict we are further on and better off in terms of recruitment this year!