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KingstonMariner
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Hall-Johnson instead of Ring for me and let's not expect too much of Whitehouse, he hasn't kicked a ball for us yet but otherwise it looks promising



Are you feeling well Swin?  


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Oh my friend we're older but no wiser,
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same.
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Are you feeling well Swin?  


Well if he’d been to a few more games, he’d know that RHJ is neither a full back nor left footed 🤨
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I feel that Jolley had Whitehouse penciled in as an essential member of the 11 in pre season and his was a massive loss for us in hindsight. An all action link between midfield and attack. We had to replace him with an England under 21 midfielder who in the short term filled the void.
When he also had his season cut short along with our top scorer its no surprise our season has tailed off.
Lets face it, Our squad is threadbare and/or been playing for nothing for weeks except pride.
Despite all this we have improved and our acerage squad age has dropped again.

Been listening to Peter Swan on Sportstalk and Scunny spent £750,000 in January and they are all but down.
I know theres a balance between financial report and ambition but glad we are entering a new season with a steady balance rather than unsure future.
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In the current state of the club, it will be a miracle if we sign 2 decent strikers.
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In his first season I remember thinking that Rob Jones was one of the most inept defenders I'd ever seen at BP...



Oh he was dire.  On his best day he was like Bambi on ice.  Towards the end of that season he started to improve and then the next season he was just an absolute beast.  Like most of that team he peaked in the winter and struggled a bit towards the end of the season but there was a significant period where he just looked unbeatable.
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I suspect Scunny's decline might have a fair bit to do with the fact that their benefactor has decided that enough is enough


It’s not technically his money it’s his wife who holds the purse strings. That said, their budget was the third highest in L1 this year so I suspect that may not be the case.
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Why are we even talking about if we keep him or get rid of him?

Almost unanimously this season was to be written off as one of transition.  It was accepted that this season would be one where building blocks are put in place and it would take a minimum of 3 transfer windows before we saw any fruits.

Whilst I'm disappointed at how this season has gone, despite glimpses of promise at times, what's the point of saying we're going to give time to get it right and then hang him out to dry when we're firing on all cylinders all the time?  He's either got the long-term rebuild job or he hasn't.  If he has and fails, then at least we know we gave him the time to do so.  If he hasn't then we have to accept that we'll forever be in this cycle of appointing managers on the merry-go-round and we'll never get anywhere.

There's no two ways about it, we need to make improvements over the summer.  Quite significant improvements.  But we knew that was going to be the case anyway.  

The last time we were in a position where we were faced with a total rebuild and actually gave a manager real time to build something was 2004 under Russell Slade.  Let's forget the absolute shower that he produced in his second spell here and focus just on his first spell. In that first spell Slade built a bang average side in his first season that showed glimpses of promise.  I think we finished about 18th despite flirting briefly with a play-off place in the late winter/early months of spring.   Very few people were excited for his second season.  In his second summer he made some key signings (Paul Bolland, Gary Jones, Steve Mildenhall) and gelled them with the core he had brought in the previous summer (Michael Reddy, Rob Jones, Justin Whittle).  Ultimately it didn't work out quite as hoped but the improvement from one season to another was incredible.


The centre mids were great that year Bolland, Kalala, Toner scored great goals against Lincoln and Carlisle, Woodhouse added quality from set pieces who 4 years early moved to Birmingham for 1 million.

Jones and Reddy upfront, Parkinson on the wing, Jones and Whittle at the back.

Fenty had a relegation budget again that year, and Slade worked miracles getting the team together but since then it's proved you can't do it every year.


Relying on free transfers and loans.


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Quoted from Stew0_0

Lets face it, Our squad is threadbare and/or been playing for nothing for weeks except pride.


So you must be implying they have very little pride then !!


The wife was going away for a girly weekend.
I jokingly remarked  'I don't know whether to spend it watching porn or watching football'
'you may as well spend it watching porn' she replied
That's understanding darling what makes you say that? I asked

She said 'Well you already know how to play football'  
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The centre mids were great that year Bolland, Kalala, Toner scored great goals against Lincoln and Carlisle, Woodhouse added quality from set pieces who 4 years early moved to Birmingham for 1 million.

Jones and Reddy upfront, Parkinson on the wing, Jones and Whittle at the back.

Fenty had a relegation budget again that year, and Slade worked miracles getting the team together but since then it's proved you can't do it every year.


Relying on free transfers and loans.





Out of interest , what was the playing budget that season?


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Quoted from Nutsy
We have the bones of a promotion chasing side:

Macc
Hendrie Ohman Davis Ring
Clifton Whitehouse Hessenthaler
Vernam Cook Wright

There is a back to bones XI that will get better with a good pre season, plus additions in for the forwards

Yes, this does not set some people's hearts racing but the overall age of that 11 is 24. Take into account the bench of next years players and that'll not alter things either.

We are getting there - just think the last manager got rid of Shaun Pearson and replaced him with Nathan Clarke... the only way is up

UTM


Definitely not good enough-doubt if that team would score a goal before xmas
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