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Abdul19
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I remember Josh Venney playing about 6 minutes against Barrow


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I remember Josh Venney playing about 6 minutes against Barrow


He looked good in the reserves and cup games he played in, but like others said, Hurst just didn't dare risk them, shame as Clifton has come on loads under Jolley and we might have lost a few potential players over the years
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He looked good in the reserves and cup games he played in, but like others said, Hurst just didn't dare risk them, shame as Clifton has come on loads under Jolley and we might have lost a few potential players over the years


Well he was clearly right not to play him as he’s now at GY boro.....
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Seems like Woods is getting the plaudits here and maybe rightly so but dont forget its MJ that approves these. Whether or not these lads make it through is another thing but its nice that a manager has faith in the system and wont just discard players at the end of their YT days.

MJ's experience is more working with this level of player and he knows that the next step in their development is crucial and is prepared to sign the most promising talent up and give them a couple of years to develop them on.  Bignot had stated a similar philosophy but obviously we never saw if he would put that into action as he was gone before he could set it up.

Hurst just wasnt interested in the youth...i seem to think there were a couple of seasons under him were none of the youth were offered a deal and all released.

The knock on from this is that we might start seeing local youth stay local, for quite a few years Scunny & Hull have been drawing local talent as it was clear a) - we were non league and the youth system was butchered b) managers were just chopping lads at 16/17 yrs ....with MJ showing faith in youth then the draw of professional contracts and a clear career progression route might build some momentum.



But MJ will only approve a deal for a youth graduate if he is good enough and that is totally down to Woods identifying the talent and then developing it. MJ's previous experience with young players included under 23's at Burnley but these will have been lads who had come through the youth system, already got contracts and being further developed. This would have been a totally different situation to Woods who would have been instrumental in identifying talent at schoolboy level especially those in the 12 to 15 age group.


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He looked good in the reserves and cup games he played in, but like others said, Hurst just didn't dare risk them, shame as Clifton has come on loads under Jolley and we might have lost a few potential players over the years


Speaking of Clifton, to be fair to PH, he was offered a pro deal a year early.


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Was just gonna say clifton was signed pro by Hurst tbf
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Hopefully they will be loaned out as per Clifton rose and Wright in order to gain some proper experience
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Re: Hurst' record with youth: Was Bradley Woods a homegrown player or did he just sign for us at a young age?

Then there was Charlie I'Anson, not homegrown but a yoot when he played for us. Mind you he didn't last long like all the others.


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But MJ will only approve a deal for a youth graduate if he is good enough and that is totally down to Woods identifying the talent and then developing it. MJ's previous experience with young players included under 23's at Burnley but these will have been lads who had come through the youth system, already got contracts and being further developed. This would have been a totally different situation to Woods who would have been instrumental in identifying talent at schoolboy level especially those in the 12 to 15 age group.


Sorry to be a pedant, but more people than Woodsy should get recognition here. NW oversees/manages the whole Academy and obviously coaches the YT's with Callum Lester, but recruitment at the younger ages and coaching/developing players at all the younger age groups isn't done by him, it's other members of staff.

The 18 Coaching (& support) staff, plus medical, sports science, performance analysis and a scouting network.

The Academy as a whole is doing good things, has big ambitions and is making great progress.


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