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On the BBC app, the headline states “I’m not frustrated at all” but the content has frustration running right through it. He needs and wants a bigger pot of money to make a success of GTFC and I sense he now realises what frustrates the fans as well as previous incumbents. He is just the latest in a long line of managers who will not be able to achieve what they want.
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If the interviewer was Matt Dean then i dont blame Jolley for getting drunk off...he irritates the fck out of me with his style of interviewing, very quick to fire in questions mid way through an answer and tends to reword a question several times in the same interview...always looking to trip up his subject IMO.
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He's cut off at the knees and he knows it. Thing is I don't think he has any choice but to plow on after leaving his last job who would give him a third crack at management with no discernible achievement.
The club should back him for fecks sake, this is now the third manager in three years who has intermated that we don't have the required back room infrastructure.
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He's cut off at the knees and he knows it. Thing is I don't think he has any choice but to plow on after leaving his last job who would give him a third crack at management with no discernible achievement.
The club should back him for fecks sake, this is now the third manager in three years who has intermated that we don't have the required back room infrastructure.
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He's cut off at the knees and he knows it. Thing is I don't think he has any choice but to plow on after leaving his last job who would give him a third crack at management with no discernible achievement.
The club should back him for fecks sake, this is now the third manager in three years who has intermated that we don't have the required back room infrastructure.
Catch 22 situation, without forward-thinking business acumen from the board, the budget will not grow and remain as it is. The only other option is for JF not to take his annual £200k out of the club and pump more money in. We then becomes less sustainable and less likely to get rid of JF. We either need a "football fortune" or a board who know how to grow a business.
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Catch 22 situation, without forward-thinking business acumen from the board, the budget will not grow and remain as it is. The only other option is for JF not to take his annual £200k out of the club and pump more money in. We then becomes less sustainable and less likely to get rid of JF.
We either need a "football fortune" or a board who know how to grow a business.
Whilst I totally agree, this isn’t new, is it? Even John Fenty has said we are looking for football fortune, well I think he should have worked out by now that it doesn’t grow on trees.
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I feel sorry for him. He's doing the best with limited resources and a club organisation that isn't very commercially-minded or fit for purpose.
That said, and even though we're on a bad run at the moment, we really do need to support him. He's a young manager in his first full season managing a club. It's a different skill set to just coaching players and teams within a wider structure, and though he managed in Sweden (part of a season) and had a ten game blitz with us last season, he's still getting used to things like managing and balancing a squad, conducting a transfer window and thinking about the next one, dealing with media, managing supporter expectations, working with a domineering Chairman, facing criticism, dealing with difficult and disruptive players. All of this on top of being frustrated at not finding a working combination of players and formation.
So he is frustrated and he will make mistakes, but I still think he has the right stuff to take us on and needs our support. He's bringing youth players through and will continue to do so. We've had a couple of good runs and have a decent core of a squad. We've not been in danger of relegation and even up to February were in touch with the playoffs.
The worrying part is that it sounds like he's again being denied the support staff he needs and that facilities and location are proving a barrier to recruitment. The club need to take a serious look at how we mitigate these factors or we'll always struggle. I liked Jolley's insistence that players live in the area but surely if we're missing out on some people who don't want to uproot their families we need to have a workable solution that allows them to live further afield and maybe spend Wednesday to Saturday in Grimsby. Let's give him what he needs in terms of equipment and backroom support.
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A thread about a storm in a tea cup...... posts above from Mariner 91 & Hackney Haddock are bang on for me.
MJ is a young manager making mistakes and learning his trade at a club with minimal resource, what do people inc the media expect? Much more experienced managers are equally as frank and make numerous mistakes throughout the season.
Remember MJs got a bit of form from last season like when he asked Dave Burns “I’m sorry what’s your name?” after the Wycombe game and followed it up with “Pirlos wasn’t available for selection today” personally I think it’s quite funny.
Over this season he’s done a decent job on the whole e.g. trying to build a squad that’s not completely based upon 1 year journeymen and has a mix of longer term deals and youngsters coming through. A job that’s been done like many clubs in the lower part of L2 on a tight budget.
I just hope he never cups his ear..... that will send many of the doom mongers completely into overload.
It feels like the same old people are getting on the managers back because we’re not playing champagne football or after nearly going down last year in contention for promotion over Easter.
MJ has a plan and should be allowed to get on with it to be honest.
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I feel sorry for him. He's doing the best with limited resources and a club organisation that isn't very commercially-minded or fit for purpose.
That said, and even though we're on a bad run at the moment, we really do need to support him. He's a young manager in his first full season managing a club. It's a different skill set to just coaching players and teams within a wider structure, and though he managed in Sweden (part of a season) and had a ten game blitz with us last season, he's still getting used to things like managing and balancing a squad, conducting a transfer window and thinking about the next one, dealing with media, managing supporter expectations, working with a domineering Chairman, facing criticism, dealing with difficult and disruptive players. All of this on top of being frustrated at not finding a working combination of players and formation.
So he is frustrated and he will make mistakes, but I still think he has the right stuff to take us on and needs our support. He's bringing youth players through and will continue to do so. We've had a couple of good runs and have a decent core of a squad. We've not been in danger of relegation and even up to February were in touch with the playoffs.
The worrying part is that it sounds like he's again being denied the support staff he needs and that facilities and location are proving a barrier to recruitment. The club need to take a serious look at how we mitigate these factors or we'll always struggle. I liked Jolley's insistence that players live in the area but surely if we're missing out on some people who don't want to uproot their families we need to have a workable solution that allows them to live further afield and maybe spend Wednesday to Saturday in Grimsby. Let's give him what he needs in terms of equipment and backroom support.
I can understand his frustrations but I do not feel sorry for him. Here is a bloke who has mapped out his career very carefully and will have done his homework before coming to this job. Everyone and his dog knows that Hurst left because of budget and the only players Bignot and Slade could get were cheap or loanees. So he knew full well what Fenty’s position is when it comes to funding. While he was doing OK it was OK. But once the cracks began to show in the side it was not OK so he feels miffed. Understandable ....... but he ain’t the only manager to feel like that. Personally I do not think he is a great manager. He could be an asset to a club, including Town in this, as a Football Director in overall control of that side of a club like Huddersfield and Norwich have done with Stuart Webber, working with a head coach who knows more about actual football game play and team building.
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