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By the way... Imps are in L1......
Do us a favour, take ya face for a shite... |
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By the way... Imps are in L1......
And the proper supporters are out celebrating whilst the plastics are at home trolling ......... don’t worry your tail will be hard again soon and you can carry on with what gratifies you most. |
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I do appreciate that Fenty has put a lot of his own money into the club and kept it from administration.
But if he's now expecting this money back then he should have the business sense to recognise that he'll never get it and just cut his losses.
To make the kind of profits that will help him recoup a large chunk of his benign loans means we'll have to be successful on the pitch and show innovation off it, and we're doing neither at the minute.
Check mate.
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I do appreciate that Fenty has put a lot of his own money into the club and kept it from administration.
But if he's now expecting this money back then he should have the business sense to recognise that he'll never get it and just cut his losses.
To make the kind of profits that will help him recoup a large chunk of his benign loans means we'll have to be successful on the pitch and show innovation off it, and we're doing neither at the minute.
Check mate.
Stale mate would be the more apt term for it. |
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Well seeing as a generation is usually classed as thirty years then that is a sweeping statement. As a point of interest , not that it will strengthen your point , just check out the 1968/69 season. Town finished second to bottom in Division 4. Also in the same league were Bradford Park Avenue, York City, Chesterfield, Aldershot, Chester, Workington, Wrexham, Darlington and Halifax. So 50 years ago we were in the same league as now , in such auspicious company and no JF to blame for our predicament. Go back to 1954/55 season when we finished second to bottom in Division 3 (N). No Division 4 then so we effectivley finished joint second in the FL. Of the 24 teams in that league 14 are now non-league.Yes we were "lumped " in with those teams 64 years ago. Fans seem to forget that our history in the time I have been alive (71 years) is not as illustrious and great as they seem to think. These are also times when no Director or Chairman would have stepped into the breach to save the club with loans (benign or otherwise ) or gifts to keep the club going.
Going back to previous poor spells, what about when Town were in the top flight and finishing 5th, no lets hark back to doom and gloom, tell me in our history give me a break down of how long we have spent in each league, because when I last checked we had spent night on 50 years at Championship level, and around 12 in the top flight. The fact we have spent more time in the top flight than non league tells me we should be top half of league 1 to bottom half of the Championship under the right stewardship. |
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Going back to previous poor spells, what about when Town were in the top flight and finishing 5th, no lets hark back to doom and gloom, tell me in our history give me a break down of how long we have spent in each league, because when I last checked we had spent night on 50 years at Championship level, and around 12 in the top flight. The fact we have spent more time in the top flight than non league tells me we should be top half of league 1 to bottom half of the Championship under the right stewardship.
I totally agree on where we should be and yes with the right stewardship we could be there again. The reason I mentioned previous poor seasons was because they happened in my lifetime and they counter the perceived idea that bad times have only occured recently and are peculiar to the management of the club by JF and no other regime in our past. Yes we were in the top flight of English football but seeing as that finished in the late 1940's that is beyond my recall. |
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I totally agree on where we should be and yes with the right stewardship we could be there again. The reason I mentioned previous poor seasons was because they happened in my lifetime and they counter the perceived idea that bad times have only occured recently and are peculiar to the management of the club by JF and no other regime in our past. Yes we were in the top flight of English football but seeing as that finished in the late 1940's that is beyond my recall.
We've never had such a sustained spell as bad as this though. 67-70 is probably the last time. Other than that it's been brief spells in the 4th tier. |
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I totally agree on where we should be and yes with the right stewardship we could be there again. The reason I mentioned previous poor seasons was because they happened in my lifetime and they counter the perceived idea that bad times have only occured recently and are peculiar to the management of the club by JF and no other regime in our past. Yes we were in the top flight of English football but seeing as that finished in the late 1940's that is beyond my recall.
Fair comments, for those of us who don't remember those times there are still some old boys who still go who do, isn't that right barra |
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We've never had such a sustained spell as bad as this though. 67-70 is probably the last time. Other than that it's been brief spells in the 4th tier.
I think I’m correct in saying the first time we dropped into the fourth tier was 1968 when we had four seasons there before Lawrie Mac got us up Our next spell was from 77 to 79 when John Newman got promotion The next was from 88 until 90 when under AB1 we were back going up So there were 8 seasons only at this level until we dropped down again in 2004. It means 10 seasons now at this level ( including 19-20 in with this ) plus of course the six out in the conference This is definitely the lowest ebb in our history but all things must pass.....just hope I’ll see Town at a higher level again one day, in the years I’ve got left UTM GTID |
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Football is played in far more places than it was in even the 70s and 80s. If you look back on quality papers in decades gone by it got a fraction of the coverage does today. Posh southerners used to turn their nose up at football now it's an establishment sport. You really are not comparing like with like if you are expecting town to emulate what they did in the past when they now have to compete with far more affluent towns and cities who (if they were even built) once spurned the game. And we have to compete with a ground built in the 19th century.
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