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Good job the fans don’t ask or have the opportunity to get their money back eh...
I’d class them as investors. Not only investing time but money. Some life long.
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I'm confused what is JF, an investor or benefactor?
He doesn't appear either to me.
As Swin fairly points out investors expect (but here i differ) but more often than not don't get their money back, which essentially how stocks and shares work.
If you make a poor investment decision i.e appointing a manager who gets you relegated, what rational reason do you get for taking your money back when it goes wrong. I can't say well that company I invested in didn't perform as I expected so give me my trade back.
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I'm confused what is JF, an investor or benefactor?
He doesn't appear either to me.
As Swin fairly points out investors expect (but here i differ) but more often than not don't get their money back, which essentially how stocks and shares work.
If you make a poor investment decision i.e appointing a manager who gets you relegated, what rational reason do you get for taking your money back when it goes wrong. I can't say well that company I invested in didn't perform as I expected so give me my trade back.
Not only that, what money he has put in has bought him a lot of local recognition. Add to that the ability to showboat in the boardroom, be top man at a distinguished Football League club, with all the opportunity that brings. The fact that he has done sodomist all with it is his fault. How on earth he can expect his money back is beyond me. That money has been a Godsend to him, or perhaps should have been. For most of the time he has been in charge it is the fans who have put the money in to keep us afloat, so for basically an initital investment he has been able to sit back and hope for football fortune. It hasn't arrived, due to his mismanagement so now he wants his money back??
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Not only that, what money he has put in has bought him a lot of local recognition. Add to that the ability to showboat in the boardroom, be top man at a distinguished Football League club, with all the opportunity that brings. The fact that he has done sodomist all with it is his fault.
How on earth he can expect his money back is beyond me. That money has been a Godsend to him, or perhaps should have been.
For most of the time he has been in charge it is the fans who have put the money in to keep us afloat, so for basically an initital investment he has been able to sit back and hope for football fortune. It hasn't arrived, due to his mismanagement so now he wants his money back??
So the money JF paid to Ramsden and the £800,000 he paid HMRC ( all incurred prior to his involvement with the club) didn't keep the club afloat? Do you think a whip around from the fans would have raised that amount to keep us afloat?
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So the money JF paid to Ramsden and the £800,000 he paid HMRC ( all incurred prior to his involvement with the club) didn't keep the club afloat? Do you think a whip around from the fans would have raised that amount to keep us afloat?
It is also worth pointing out that half of Operation Promotion was contributed by Lee Mullen and his wife.
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It is also worth pointing out that half of Operation Promotion was contributed by Lee Mullen and his wife.
They put in 20K, we raised over 100k so they contributed around a fifth of it, not half
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It is also worth pointing out that half of Operation Promotion was contributed by Lee Mullen and his wife.
I'm afraid that is not the case. Their extremely generous donation of £20K made them far and away the biggest single donors but it amounted to slightly less than 20% of the total raised.
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So the money JF paid to Ramsden and the £800,000 he paid HMRC ( all incurred prior to his involvement with the club) didn't keep the club afloat? Do you think a whip around from the fans would have raised that amount to keep us afloat?
Read it again.
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Read it again.
I have . He allowed the situation to exist so the input from the fans could keep the club going. He provided the platform so the club could keep going - £1,175,000 's worth of platform. Do you honestly think if he hadn't put that cash in the club would have survived to be at the level we are now? If the club had been wound up by HMRC and gone into administration we could have easily gone the way of Chester, Darlington and others. Some fans think that administration is a panacea to all the problems and point to other clubs that have come out of it ok but it is a double edged saw and nothing is guaranteed about the outcome.
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I have . He allowed the situation to exist so the input from the fans could keep the club going. He provided the platform so the club could keep going - £1,175,000 's worth of platform. Do you honestly think if he hadn't put that cash in the club would have survived to be at the level we are now? If the club had been wound up by HMRC and gone into administration we could have easily gone the way of Chester, Darlington and others. Some fans think that administration is a panacea to all the problems and point to other clubs that have come out of it ok but it is a double edged saw and nothing is guaranteed about the outcome.
My original post says nothing about what you are arguing against. I specifically mentioned his intial investment (the money that kept us afloat) so I don't see what your point is. My post was about how he has benefited from that initial investment, and it is obviously a fact that since his tenure the fans have provided most of the funds to keep the club going.
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