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We had no facking money though
"If you don't facking like it don't facking come."
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mariner91 |
February 23, 2019, 11:16am |
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People are entitled to their opinion, if you think Hurst was good that is your prerogative.
One thing though. The club was not in total decline pre-Hurst. Neil Woods had been given a very good budget with the parachute money, probably second only to Crawley, but he had still not got the team into a playoff position in fact we were 9th after drawing with Fleetwood and still in with a shout. On 23rd February 2011 Neil was sacked. One month later Scott and Hurst were appointed but we could only finish 11th.
The club blew the parachute money by not sacking Woods the moment he took us down. The only thing that stopped a relegation scrap that first season was Connell's goals, take him out of that team and it was unbelievably poor. Out of that entire squad, Connell was the only one in the 8 years since who has moved up a level in football, all the rest went down the pyramid because they were generally pretty awful. Some of the players who played for us that season are scarily bad. Here's a list of players who made more than 20 appearances for us that year: Connell, Wood, Hudson, Eagle, Bore, Cummins, Peacock, Kempson, Ridley, Coulson, Arthur, Atkinson, Samuels, Watt, Leary, Garner. Out of that lot, only Connell, Wood and Coulson would have been anywhere near the starting eleven of a team going for promotion. Your prejudice against Hurst is clouding your judgement of just what a state we were in when he took over.
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Ipswin |
February 23, 2019, 11:26am |
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Ipswich? He let good players go too soon probably because he has no experience of managing “stars” who are paid more than him and tried to do a Shrews again but his signings were not good enough. The football was even more defensive than McCarthy and not what Ipswich fans wanted to see. Lambert will take them down but he is on a hiding to nothing with the players Hurst left.
Lambert is very lucky that he can hide behind the disaster that was Hurst and blame him for relegation, a position a lot of Ipswich ST holders I know have already adopted In fact Lambert's record is no better than Hurst's and he has now had a transfer window during which he brought in a number of players It does appear however that Nolan (and occasionally as a sub Nsiala) is now pushing for a regular start under Lambert and is showing the promise Hurst (and I) thought he had. That said he'll be playing in Div 1 next season so he might look even better! Ipswich Town relegated! Loving it! (just hope somehow we can get into the playoffs and go up, would love to play them again)
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KingstonMariner |
February 23, 2019, 11:48am |
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The club blew the parachute money by not sacking Woods the moment he took us down. The only thing that stopped a relegation scrap that first season was Connell's goals, take him out of that team and it was unbelievably poor. Out of that entire squad, Connell was the only one in the 8 years since who has moved up a level in football, all the rest went down the pyramid because they were generally pretty awful.
Some of the players who played for us that season are scarily bad. Here's a list of players who made more than 20 appearances for us that year: Connell, Wood, Hudson, Eagle, Bore, Cummins, Peacock, Kempson, Ridley, Coulson, Arthur, Atkinson, Samuels, Watt, Leary, Garner. Out of that lot, only Connell, Wood and Coulson would have been anywhere near the starting eleven of a team going for promotion. Your prejudice against Hurst is clouding your judgement of just what a state we were in when he took over.
I think you're being a bit one-eyed about Woods. You can't criticise him for something that didn't happen. We were in no danger of relegation. And if he is criticised for signing excrement players he should be praised for signing ones that were successful like Connell. You can't criticse Woods by saying 'but for Connell's goals we'd have been in danger of relegation', for the fact that Woods signed Connell.
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Rodley Mariner |
February 23, 2019, 12:07pm |
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Can we blame him for 26 games without a win, relegation to the conference and spunking the parachute payment?
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February 23, 2019, 12:07pm |
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I think you're being a bit one-eyed about Woods. You can't criticise him for something that didn't happen. We were in no danger of relegation. And if he is criticised for signing excrement players he should be praised for signing ones that were successful like Connell. You can't criticse Woods by saying 'but for Connell's goals we'd have been in danger of relegation', for the fact that Woods signed Connell.
Regardless of what Woods did or didn't do when Hurst took over we where really poor on and off the,pitch and had been for years.
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chaos33 |
February 23, 2019, 8:07pm |
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Can we blame him for 26 games without a win, relegation to the conference and spunking the parachute payment?
Apparently not.
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Abdul19 |
February 23, 2019, 8:29pm |
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To be fair, his run was only 20 games (plus 2 in the cup, including a loss to a team 2 divisions below)
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KingstonMariner |
February 23, 2019, 9:38pm |
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Can we blame him for 26 games without a win, relegation to the conference and spunking the parachute payment?
Of course. It's just people making stupid comments I don't like. How can you moan someone signed a team that would have ended up in the bottom of the Conference, but for one player he signed.
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KingstonMariner |
February 23, 2019, 9:39pm |
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Regardless of what Woods did or didn't do when Hurst took over we where really poor on and off the,pitch and had been for years.
No disputing that.
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