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I don’t like him but he isn’t rubbish. It’s just that he could be a much better manager if he threw away the chip on his shoulder and became more positive in the job. His ambitions are limited. He did well at Shrews in the first season to save them from the drop and created his usual defensive side for year 2 that got to the top spot in the league by January with a lot of 1-0 wins. Then for some reason, just as he did at BP he settled for the play offs much too soon. Games he could and should have won were drawn and the side lost points and momentum. Some Shrews fans said the same as some Town fans about his negative tactics against poorer sides and his aim being not to lose.
Ipswich? He let good players go too soon probably because he has no experience of managing “stars” who are paid more than him and tried to do a Shrews again but his signings were not good enough. The football was even more defensive than McCarthy and not what Ipswich fans wanted to see. Lambert will take them down but he is on a hiding to nothing with the players Hurst left.
I feel sorry for Hurst in a way. There is a decent manager in there but he is scared to let him out. In the end it was his fear of failure that caused him to fail.
Looking at the Ipswich situation I would imagine he was forced to let good players go to keep their costs down. |
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| TheRonRaffertyFanClub |
| February 22, 2019, 9:09am |
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Looking at the Ipswich situation I would imagine he was forced to let good players go to keep their costs down.
No doubt. But he was not able to make the best of the ones he had. Fair enough he tried to make silk purses out of Nolan and Toto and the like and that worked at Shrews but it was a step up too far for them to play against quality every game. From the bits I’ve read from Ipswich fans he seemed reluctant to use some of their good young players as well which is another of his safety first foibles isn’t it? Bryan Klug has run a good academy down there for years. |
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| FishOutOfWater |
| February 22, 2019, 1:48pm |
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I wonder what Slade and Wilko are doing now ?
The same as when they were in charge here probably...… absolutely nothing! |
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| devs |
| February 22, 2019, 3:36pm |
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Thought Hurst interview was 100% fair and balanced
He has no time for the bile spouted by a significant minority - why would he?
But for at least 95% of fans he has huge respect and admiration
PH will never have a love in with the fans of any club - like AB - he's not built that way...dour Yorkie and all that
And he deep down probably regrets the 'cup-ear' gesture - but it was a split-second choice releasing lots of pressure I guess...unlike some who post on here after GTFC lose and they offer very well thought out and considered opinions such as 'Jolley out' 'worse team ever' etc
We move on...
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| RichMariner |
| February 22, 2019, 4:38pm |
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Like him or loathe him, he was the one who got us back into the Football League and gave us an incredible moment at Wembley (made all the sweeter due to the fine margins that denied us in previous years).
He gave it his all. He brought the likes of McKeown, Pearson, Disley, Bogle and Amond to the club. Let's not forget - we were a club in total decline. We could have gone the way of Stockport. Look at Hartlepool and Chesterfield... we had no divine right to be challenging near the top every season. The fact we did was down to him.
Budget? Yes, probably healthy. But so was Notts County's for this season. Budgets help, but they mean nothing if you haven't got the right person in charge.
I think the way he left the club has tainted people's memories of him. Added to his reaction after winning at Wembley, I think it's skewed things somewhat.
Look at the facts. A high win percentage. Top 4 finishes in most of his seasons as a manager at every level. The only manager to deliver promotion apart from AB in the last 30-odd years. If there's a League 1 club looking for some stability then they'd do worse than to appoint Paul Hurst.
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| Cayman_mariner |
| February 22, 2019, 6:44pm |
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Like him or loathe him, he was the one who got us back into the Football League and gave us an incredible moment at Wembley (made all the sweeter due to the fine margins that denied us in previous years).
He gave it his all. He brought the likes of McKeown, Pearson, Disley, Bogle and Amond to the club. Let's not forget - we were a club in total decline. We could have gone the way of Stockport. Look at Hartlepool and Chesterfield... we had no divine right to be challenging near the top every season. The fact we did was down to him.
Budget? Yes, probably healthy. But so was Notts County's for this season. Budgets help, but they mean nothing if you haven't got the right person in charge.
I think the way he left the club has tainted people's memories of him. Added to his reaction after winning at Wembley, I think it's skewed things somewhat.
Look at the facts. A high win percentage. Top 4 finishes in most of his seasons as a manager at every level. The only manager to deliver promotion apart from AB in the last 30-odd years. If there's a League 1 club looking for some stability then they'd do worse than to appoint Paul Hurst.
Excellent post Rich, bang on the money for me. |
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| TheRonRaffertyFanClub |
| February 22, 2019, 7:28pm |
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Let's not forget - we were a club in total decline..
People are entitled to their opinion, if you think Hurst was good that is your prerogative. One thing though. The club was not in total decline pre-Hurst. Neil Woods had been given a very good budget with the parachute money, probably second only to Crawley, but he had still not got the team into a playoff position in fact we were 9th after drawing with Fleetwood and still in with a shout. On 23rd February 2011 Neil was sacked. One month later Scott and Hurst were appointed but we could only finish 11th. |
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| Abdul19 |
| February 22, 2019, 10:24pm |
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*drawing with Forest Green
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| KingstonMariner |
| February 22, 2019, 10:26pm |
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People are entitled to their opinion, if you think Hurst was good that is your prerogative.
One thing though. The club was not in total decline pre-Hurst. Neil Woods had been given a very good budget with the parachute money, probably second only to Crawley, but he had still not got the team into a playoff position in fact we were 9th after drawing with Fleetwood and still in with a shout. On 23rd February 2011 Neil was sacked. One month later Scott and Hurst were appointed but we could only finish 11th.
Ah but look what happened the following season. Scott n Hurst completely turned things around and we finished .....11th. But with a few more points. |
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| Abdul19 |
| February 22, 2019, 10:47pm |
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We had no facking money though
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