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| February 24, 2019, 2:03pm |
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The elections are held every year at the AGM where normally a third of the board are up for re-election each year. I'm not sure if we have a full 12 person complement at the moment but anyone who is interested in helping can attend a Trust Board meeting to see if they fancy it. We need workers.
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| barralad |
| February 24, 2019, 2:07pm |
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There isn't much info about scheduled elections, just an invitation to enquire about joining. It's quite obvious that many people don't know how appointments are made to the board so I was hoping someone with that knowledge could share it. I'd love to get involved with the club one day but as I'm only in my early 20s I'm not sure that I could offer much experience. Plus I couldn't hope to find the free time to be useful. Would be happy to help with fundraising though.
Age is no bar. I bet you understand what your peers want from their relationship with GTFC far better than I do at 61 years of age!! |
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| barralad |
| February 24, 2019, 2:08pm |
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Not wanting to dwell in the past but if you'll allow me to go back as far as Tuesday night, the disparaging use of the term 'keyboard warriors' from at least one member of the Trust board is hardly encouraging us to join is it?
Yeah I get that..the Man Utd Trust weren't happy either... |
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| KingstonMariner |
| February 24, 2019, 3:28pm |
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Not wanting to dwell in the past but if you'll allow me to go back as far as Tuesday night, the disparaging use of the term 'keyboard warriors' from at least one member of the Trust board is hardly encouraging us to join is it?
All the more reason to join OC. Make your voice heard in a more effective way. As a non-member you don't have a say in it. |
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| February 24, 2019, 5:05pm |
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I'll probably regret this but here goes...
The events leading up to Russell Slade's eventual departure were in my personal opinion a watershed in the relationship between the club and the Trust. Out of it came the survey with those who completed it sending a very clear message to the Trust about the future direction of the relationship. This gave the Trust extra support in going back to the club seeking to strengthen the place of the Trust in the life of GTFC . Out of these discussions came the recently agreed M.O.U. which puts The Mariners Trust in a great position to move forward- a position lots of Trusts in this country are envious of. Yes the discussions were more protracted than hoped for but instrumental in those discussions in addition to Jon Wood and Dave Roberts were the two people mentioned above. Call me old-fashioned but I fail totally to understand how the Trust using the skills of people who have previously worked for or with the football club is necessarily a bad thing. Terry has an insight into the workings of GTFC that makes him invaluable in discussions relating to the match day experience and most Town fans must be aware of Alan's previous role!
Every one has the capacity to make mistakes (yes even you Aaron). Terry resigned from his role as Chair in recognition of his. Alan has not to my knowledge made any such mistakes but appears to be damned by a mythical closeness to J.F. and the Board which I 've yet to see any proof of its detriment to the role of the Trust in representing its members.
For me there is a clear choice for people:- to either support the efforts being made to move the club/Trust relationship forward or carry on dwelling in the past (horrible though that may have been) and moaning about it on here from the outside.....
There is a saying that ex poachers make the best gamekeepers! At least if you are part of something you can effect change. If you are not part then you have no meaningful say in the outcome. It's like the right to vote , if you don't use it then you are in no position to question the outcome. |
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| Ipswin |
| February 24, 2019, 5:45pm |
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. It's like the right to vote , if you don't use it then you are in no position to question the outcome.
The exception being the Brexit referendum where if you voted remain you cannot question the outcome |
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| barralad |
| February 24, 2019, 8:29pm |
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Yeah I get that..the Man Utd Trust weren't happy either...
It appears Terry's joke about Man U fans was edited out of the video...sorry! |
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| February 24, 2019, 8:58pm |
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It appears Terry's joke about Man U fans was edited out of the video...sorry!
Good to hear that he doesn't only make smug jokes about Town supporters... |
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| KingstonMariner |
| February 24, 2019, 10:27pm |
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I didn't red cross you but obviously disagree regarding JFs proximity to the coal face. My experience is that we spend far more time taĺking to Ian Fleming and co about the things which affect fans. John isn't present and I'll wager unless things go wrong and are escalated to Board level through Jon Wood he doesn't get to hear about them. That situation is I suggest repeated in football clubs across the country.
I'd still expect JF to be able to answer the question raised positively. He owns a third of the business. If it's repeated in clubs across the country, it's not surprising so many of them are in debt. Understanding your customer base isn't the same as changing the light bulbs. |
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| 1mickylyons |
| February 25, 2019, 10:37am |
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In my experience the Trust people are decent honest people who give up there own time to try and make things between club and fans better for both parties. However the criticsm that`s come there way in regards to how slow they are to react is I feel in part justified though I am sure what will come back is they have to wait a while to get all the bodies around a table . In addition barralad highlighted the lack of MT bodies willing to work on their behalf which again is a factor. The perception that the MT top table all being yes men from some quarters I have mixed feelings about but fully understand why it`s levelled . The MT don`t want confrontation and clearly that`s in the best interests of all parties concerned with GTFC but they are a voice that can and should be heard and if ever a time arises where confrontation is required I hope they will take up the cudgels on our behalf. One of 5 Clubs in the Country to have this signed agreement suggests they are doing a better job than most. Things don`t move as fast as I would like which I have highlighted but I believe them when they say they share that frustration.
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