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KingstonMariner
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I appreciate that it's frustrating to see Lincoln suddenly become world beaters on and off the pitch, but the constant comparisons to them on here are a little unhelpful.  The club's community work is one of the few things about us that can be lauded, and while there is definitely more to be done, directly comparing it to another club's efforts is a bit pointless.  We should be taking inspiration from successful ideas elsewhere, clearly, but there seems to be an attitude that if Lincoln are doing something and we aren't, it's exact proof of why we are now trailing in their wake.

They'll be going up this season and deservedly so.  Football is cyclical and the tide will turn again.  


Unhelpful to who?

The point of drawing comparisons (benchmarking if you like) is to see what other people in similar positions do better. We SHOULD be looking at Lincoln and adopting those strategies that work.

It’s good that the club is doing more (which mainly seems to be initiatives from the squad/staff side or from the Trust but naff all from the commercial side or director led).

If you want us to hide from what more successful outfits like LCFC are doing you’re reinforcing the inertia.


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Does anyone know where you can plot the respective finishing positions of the 2 clubs over the years? I can't seem to find anything that you can put 2 teams into to compare them anywhere?


If you want to see Lincoln’s overall position over the years you could try Grimsbysshadow.com


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I appreciate that it's frustrating to see Lincoln suddenly become world beaters on and off the pitch, but the constant comparisons to them on here are a little unhelpful.  The club's community work is one of the few things about us that can be lauded, and while there is definitely more to be done, directly comparing it to another club's efforts is a bit pointless.  We should be taking inspiration from successful ideas elsewhere, clearly, but there seems to be an attitude that if Lincoln are doing something and we aren't, it's exact proof of why we are now trailing in their wake.

They'll be going up this season and deservedly so.  Football is cyclical and the tide will turn again.  


A little unhelpful to who? The board? Those that don't want to listen?

Like it or not, GTFC is a business that has been run in the same way for far too long and someone very close to the club has told me as much.

If you carry on doing what you are doing then you'll continue to get what you've got. We should be taking notice of other people's success and the likes of Lincoln and Accrington are great examples of small clubs succeeding.
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Unhelpful to who?

The point of drawing comparisons (benchmarking if you like) is to see what other people in similar positions do better. We SHOULD be looking at Lincoln and adopting those strategies that work.

It’s good that the club is doing more (which mainly seems to be initiatives from the squad/staff side or from the Trust but naff all from the commercial side or director led).

If you want us to hide from what more successful outfits like LCFC are doing you’re reinforcing the inertia.


If Lincoln hadn't shot past us on the pitch, people wouldn't be oozing with paranoia about every single difference between the two clubs.  There are reasons that we've fallen behind - mostly our club's fault - but our community work (or lack of, if you believe that) isn't the reason.  I would love to see new ideas put into practice to advertise what our club gives to the local community and surrounding areas, but not all of Lincoln's ideas will necessarily be as successful for us.  That's not to say we shouldn't copy them if we can make them work, but I suppose my general point is that Lincoln aren't suddenly the gospel of all football business nous that everyone should be emulating.  

We're going to be the lowest ranked Lincolnshire side in the EFL next season and I suppose it will be hard for people to accept that.  I actually find it exciting that we've got some real rivals to try and catch in the coming years.  I just think it best that people stop panicking about a supposedly smaller rival overtaking us as I believe that's what's driving the constant comparisons.  I'm as frustrated by our lack of progress as you are; if we can improve our standing in the community as a start, I'd be delighted.
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We're going to be the lowest ranked Lincolnshire side in the EFL next season and I suppose it will be hard for people to accept that.  .


I don't see why, after all we are already



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If Lincoln hadn't shot past us on the pitch, people wouldn't be oozing with paranoia about every single difference between the two clubs.  There are reasons that we've fallen behind - mostly our club's fault - but our community work (or lack of, if you believe that) isn't the reason.  I would love to see new ideas put into practice to advertise what our club gives to the local community and surrounding areas, but not all of Lincoln's ideas will necessarily be as successful for us.  That's not to say we shouldn't copy them if we can make them work, but I suppose my general point is that Lincoln aren't suddenly the gospel of all football business nous that everyone should be emulating.  

We're going to be the lowest ranked Lincolnshire side in the EFL next season and I suppose it will be hard for people to accept that.  I actually find it exciting that we've got some real rivals to try and catch in the coming years.  I just think it best that people stop panicking about a supposedly smaller rival overtaking us as I believe that's what's driving the constant comparisons.  I'm as frustrated by our lack of progress as you are; if we can improve our standing in the community as a start, I'd be delighted.


It's not paranoia! And like I said, adopt the strategies that work, not slavishly follow whatever they do.


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